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I am tired of people assuming I am a muslim because of my ethnicity

I know this will sound weird or maybe even racist to some extent but I swear I am not and I apologise if it feels that way ahead of time.

I am a Turkish-Greek who was born in UK and raised mostly in Turkey for majority of my life, as a result I have a Turkish first and last name (both are of Latin origin, so it's not a traditional muslim name). I want to mention that I am also not a muslim, and Turkey is a secular country, so I grew up with such beliefs. I have came back to UK during Sixth-Form to study, and for the longest time I can remember, whenever I would tell someone I am not a muslim, they would look at me in a shocked way, almost as if I broke their whole expectation of me. I quite literally have eaten a BLT sandwich around such people on multiple occasions too, so I don't know what's up with that.

Another thing is that, girls who I have basically never talked to or had minimal interaction with would ask me out or show romantic interest towards me. They often happened to be muslims, who would also often be shocked when I tell them I am not a muslim.

When I was having an interview for a university, despite on my UCAS form declaring that I am not a muslim, and marking my religion as agnostic, the interviewer kept talking about the turkish muslim students at the uni and assumed I was muslim too until I had to mention I am not one.

I swear I have nothing against islam or anything like that, however this has been happening for years and ONLY in the UK. I have lived in other countries and nobody assumes someone's religion because of the country they are from (despite the fact that country is obviously secular). I feel like I am just some sort of a diversity raising tool for these people. I may sound frustrated because I kind of am. Nobody assumes a Japanese person's religion but for some reason I am assumed to be a muslim by default? Can anyone tell me if they had similar experiences like this or if I am just crashing out over nothing?

Reply 1

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by Anonymous
I know this will sound weird or maybe even racist to some extent but I swear I am not and I apologise if it feels that way ahead of time.
I am a Turkish-Greek who was born in UK and raised mostly in Turkey for majority of my life, as a result I have a Turkish first and last name (both are of Latin origin, so it's not a traditional muslim name). I want to mention that I am also not a muslim, and Turkey is a secular country, so I grew up with such beliefs. I have came back to UK during Sixth-Form to study, and for the longest time I can remember, whenever I would tell someone I am not a muslim, they would look at me in a shocked way, almost as if I broke their whole expectation of me. I quite literally have eaten a BLT sandwich around such people on multiple occasions too, so I don't know what's up with that.
Another thing is that, girls who I have basically never talked to or had minimal interaction with would ask me out or show romantic interest towards me. They often happened to be muslims, who would also often be shocked when I tell them I am not a muslim.
When I was having an interview for a university, despite on my UCAS form declaring that I am not a muslim, and marking my religion as agnostic, the interviewer kept talking about the turkish muslim students at the uni and assumed I was muslim too until I had to mention I am not one.
I swear I have nothing against islam or anything like that, however this has been happening for years and ONLY in the UK. I have lived in other countries and nobody assumes someone's religion because of the country they are from (despite the fact that country is obviously secular). I feel like I am just some sort of a diversity raising tool for these people. I may sound frustrated because I kind of am. Nobody assumes a Japanese person's religion but for some reason I am assumed to be a muslim by default? Can anyone tell me if they had similar experiences like this or if I am just crashing out over nothing?

I can see that being frustrating people make an assumption based on appearance and background. It's racist to assume that you're muslim because of your ethnicity. I think you are perfectly valid.

Reply 2

Original post
by Anonymous
I know this will sound weird or maybe even racist to some extent but I swear I am not and I apologise if it feels that way ahead of time.
I am a Turkish-Greek who was born in UK and raised mostly in Turkey for majority of my life, as a result I have a Turkish first and last name (both are of Latin origin, so it's not a traditional muslim name). I want to mention that I am also not a muslim, and Turkey is a secular country, so I grew up with such beliefs. I have came back to UK during Sixth-Form to study, and for the longest time I can remember, whenever I would tell someone I am not a muslim, they would look at me in a shocked way, almost as if I broke their whole expectation of me. I quite literally have eaten a BLT sandwich around such people on multiple occasions too, so I don't know what's up with that.
Another thing is that, girls who I have basically never talked to or had minimal interaction with would ask me out or show romantic interest towards me. They often happened to be muslims, who would also often be shocked when I tell them I am not a muslim.
When I was having an interview for a university, despite on my UCAS form declaring that I am not a muslim, and marking my religion as agnostic, the interviewer kept talking about the turkish muslim students at the uni and assumed I was muslim too until I had to mention I am not one.
I swear I have nothing against islam or anything like that, however this has been happening for years and ONLY in the UK. I have lived in other countries and nobody assumes someone's religion because of the country they are from (despite the fact that country is obviously secular). I feel like I am just some sort of a diversity raising tool for these people. I may sound frustrated because I kind of am. Nobody assumes a Japanese person's religion but for some reason I am assumed to be a muslim by default? Can anyone tell me if they had similar experiences like this or if I am just crashing out over nothing?

you are valid, and don't listen to others who may call this islamophobic.

Reply 3

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by axmm
you are valid, and don't listen to others who may call this islamophobic.


I don’t see how this could be flagged as islamophobic in any way. I am Muslim and unlike you, OP, I could not pass off as a “stereotypical” (or at least how many prople expect all mulisms to look like) if I didn’t wear the hijab. I immagine that for men especially who happen to be arab or look arab this can be a stuggle with people assuming your religion based on the way you look.

I always feel is important to remind people not to judge a book by it’s cover. In this case not all muslims are arab and not all arabs are muslim.

Your situation sure sounds tricky and I don’t know what kind of advice to give you.

I find what happened to you during your interview quite peculiar, because I don’t understand why they felt the need to being that up, is your religion important for the porpose of goving you an offer or not? That’s something that genuinly left me confused

Reply 4

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by Anonymous
I don’t see how this could be flagged as islamophobic in any way. I am Muslim and unlike you, OP, I could not pass off as a “stereotypical” (or at least how many prople expect all mulisms to look like) if I didn’t wear the hijab. I immagine that for men especially who happen to be arab or look arab this can be a stuggle with people assuming your religion based on the way you look.
I always feel is important to remind people not to judge a book by it’s cover. In this case not all muslims are arab and not all arabs are muslim.
Your situation sure sounds tricky and I don’t know what kind of advice to give you.
I find what happened to you during your interview quite peculiar, because I don’t understand why they felt the need to being that up, is your religion important for the porpose of goving you an offer or not? That’s something that genuinly left me confused
it can be because there are some people (keyword some) that take any statements like this as an attack towards islam. i am just trying to boost the op’s feelings here.

it inherently is stereotypical, to assume someone’s race/religion/gender/ethnicity by their skin colour and appearance, which is what has happened to op.

Reply 5

Original post
by Anonymous
I can see that being frustrating people make an assumption based on appearance and background. It's racist to assume that you're muslim because of your ethnicity. I think you are perfectly valid.
I don't see how is it RACIST to assume someone is a certain religion.

Reply 6

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by Kathy89
I don't see how is it RACIST to assume someone is a certain religion.

probably because it was an assumption based on skin colour? im not sure what op looks like, but if they are not muslim, they don’t wear a hijab/any clothes that muslims wear for prayers etc. it is a perfectly valid comment. if there’s a better word though, please let us know

Reply 7

I personally wouldn't go as far as calling it racist, I am sure the vast majority of people who make that assumption don't to it with malicious intent, they probably assume that because the vast majority of people they met that look like him, happen to also be Muslim.

I am not saying is right, but I don't think this is racist

Reply 8

Original post
by axmm
it can be because there are some people (keyword some) that take any statements like this as an attack towards islam. i am just trying to boost the op’s feelings here.
it inherently is stereotypical, to assume someone’s race/religion/gender/ethnicity by their skin colour and appearance, which is what has happened to op.

how can you assume someone's... gender, by their skin colour?

Reply 9

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by Anonymous
how can you assume someone's... gender, by their skin colour?

i said appearance asw 😭 sorry mb for the terrible phrasing

Reply 10

Original post
by Anonymous
I personally wouldn't go as far as calling it racist, I am sure the vast majority of people who make that assumption don't to it with malicious intent, they probably assume that because the vast majority of people they met that look like him, happen to also be Muslim.
I am not saying is right, but I don't think this is racist

fair enough, idk i would be a bit offended so its my personal ops but yeah maybe racist isn't the right word. either way, just trying to help op feel better about it

Reply 11

Original post
by Anonymous
I know this will sound weird or maybe even racist to some extent but I swear I am not and I apologise if it feels that way ahead of time.
I am a Turkish-Greek who was born in UK and raised mostly in Turkey for majority of my life, as a result I have a Turkish first and last name (both are of Latin origin, so it's not a traditional muslim name). I want to mention that I am also not a muslim, and Turkey is a secular country, so I grew up with such beliefs. I have came back to UK during Sixth-Form to study, and for the longest time I can remember, whenever I would tell someone I am not a muslim, they would look at me in a shocked way, almost as if I broke their whole expectation of me. I quite literally have eaten a BLT sandwich around such people on multiple occasions too, so I don't know what's up with that.
Another thing is that, girls who I have basically never talked to or had minimal interaction with would ask me out or show romantic interest towards me. They often happened to be muslims, who would also often be shocked when I tell them I am not a muslim.
When I was having an interview for a university, despite on my UCAS form declaring that I am not a muslim, and marking my religion as agnostic, the interviewer kept talking about the turkish muslim students at the uni and assumed I was muslim too until I had to mention I am not one.
I swear I have nothing against islam or anything like that, however this has been happening for years and ONLY in the UK. I have lived in other countries and nobody assumes someone's religion because of the country they are from (despite the fact that country is obviously secular). I feel like I am just some sort of a diversity raising tool for these people. I may sound frustrated because I kind of am. Nobody assumes a Japanese person's religion but for some reason I am assumed to be a muslim by default? Can anyone tell me if they had similar experiences like this or if I am just crashing out over nothing?

I am mixed Black and White (British/Zimbabwean) and this also occurs with me - to the point where people start speaking to me in their language, and I just stare at them blankly. Every time I tell someone my ethnicity they look shocked, even to the point that they forget it later on and still assume I’m Muslim. I dress very alternatively with inverted cross jewellery etc, and still a man approached me the other day in public trying to ask me out and asking if I’m Muslim too. I would understand Christian assumptions as I grew up in Zimbabwe, but lately it’s become too much, and I’m not islamophobic either but it is frustrating to be perceived as religious when I’m a strict atheist.

Reply 12

Original post
by Anonymous
I personally wouldn't go as far as calling it racist, I am sure the vast majority of people who make that assumption don't to it with malicious intent, they probably assume that because the vast majority of people they met that look like him, happen to also be Muslim.
I am not saying is right, but I don't think this is racist

Exactly my opinion.

Reply 13

Original post
by Anonymous
I personally wouldn't go as far as calling it racist, I am sure the vast majority of people who make that assumption don't to it with malicious intent, they probably assume that because the vast majority of people they met that look like him, happen to also be Muslim.
I am not saying is right, but I don't think this is racist

I think it's prejudice rather than racism

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