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Switching from Mphil to Phd

Hi anyone ever had any success using Gov sfe loans doing the first year of a Mphil and then switching to PhD. I’ve been told I’m not eligible for funding because they only see the PhD as 3 years as they don’t account for the first year of the Mphil becoming the first year of the PhD.
Original post by Jasmineb272
Hi anyone ever had any success using Gov sfe loans doing the first year of a Mphil and then switching to PhD. I’ve been told I’m not eligible for funding because they only see the PhD as 3 years as they don’t account for the first year of the Mphil becoming the first year of the PhD.

You won't be able to do this. While a University might allow someone to join and MPhil programme and then flip it to a PhD, that's unusual. Usually, you begin a PhD programme, and if you produce decent research, but not good enough for a PhD, the MPhil is the compensatory award.

You can't count work for 2 degrees, so the route you propose is a semantic play on words (which is why SFE take the line they do). You can't actually be awarded the MPhil if you progress to a PhD, because you can't use the same work for 2 degrees, you'd effectively be doing only 2 years of a PhD. Check with the course you are looking at, but I can't see anyway under the degree rules you can be awarded both degrees in 3 years.

You can use an MPhil to as the foundation for PhD work, but you still need to do a 3 year PhD on top.

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Original post by threeportdrift
You won't be able to do this. While a University might allow someone to join and MPhil programme and then flip it to a PhD, that's unusual. Usually, you begin a PhD programme, and if you produce decent research, but not good enough for a PhD, the MPhil is the compensatory award.
You can't count work for 2 degrees, so the route you propose is a semantic play on words (which is why SFE take the line they do). You can't actually be awarded the MPhil if you progress to a PhD, because you can't use the same work for 2 degrees, you'd effectively be doing only 2 years of a PhD. Check with the course you are looking at, but I can't see anyway under the degree rules you can be awarded both degrees in 3 years.
You can use an MPhil to as the foundation for PhD work, but you still need to do a 3 year PhD on top.

Hi thank you for your reply
Yes I am aware that I can’t work towards both degrees. That isn’t what I’m trying to do, what my uni have said I can do is use the first year of my Mphil and because of the research/ data I found and want to continue change so that I’m now doing a phd and will complete the further 3 years. So at the end I will only be awarded the phd
Original post by Jasmineb272
Hi thank you for your reply
Yes I am aware that I can’t work towards both degrees. That isn’t what I’m trying to do, what my uni have said I can do is use the first year of my Mphil and because of the research/ data I found and want to continue change so that I’m now doing a phd and will complete the further 3 years. So at the end I will only be awarded the phd

Yes, but that's why SFE won't pay for it, because you are actually signing up for a 3 year PhD, just the university is calling it an MPhil, because that's what you'd get if, at the end of year 1, you failed to produce a proposal that would produce a PhD, but produced some research of merit. The uni is pulling a fast one, and SFE have spotted it unfortunately.

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