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is it unreasonable to ask for a break when you live together?

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Original post
by Ciel.
i assume she's under 18? some private doctors will still prescribe them. but tbh, they are so hit and miss. i've been on so many different ones, usually they just numb you. at this point, i'm kinda over the whole thing. i'm starting to feel like everything they say about depression is bs, and it's usually just due to past trauma and/or general dissatisfaction with life

No she's 19.
She was 18 when she went to talk to the GP about it. Dunno what was said specifically as I wasn't there, but she said they wanted her on Talking Therapy rather than pills.

I still think a solo holiday leaving your everyday life behind for a couple of weeks could be therapeutic for you.

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by PinkMobilePhone
No she's 19.
She was 18 when she went to talk to the GP about it. Dunno what was said specifically as I wasn't there, but she said they wanted her on Talking Therapy rather than pills.
I still think a solo holiday leaving your everyday life behind for a couple of weeks could be therapeutic for you.

i see. if she really wants to give them a try, tell her to try pushdoctor or doctap, most of their doctors will give you a prescription for an ssri during your first online consultation (they're legit, pushdoctor even works with the nhs sometimes). you just need to be a little firm with them.

maybe someday.......

Reply 22

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by Ciel.
he's so angry about it and doesn’t want to hear it. he says that if that’s what i want, i should just move out, even though he knows that's not an option right now

1) I would never allow a girlfriend to dictate that we were on a break, she’s with me or she’s not and your boyfriend homosexual or not is correct in his reply here.

2) If your not committed to him then he has no obligation to you and I’d definitely boot you out were I him if you broke up with him.

Reply 23

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by Rakas21
1) I would never allow a girlfriend to dictate that we were on a break, she’s with me or she’s not and your boyfriend homosexual or not is correct in his reply here.
2) If your not committed to him then he has no obligation to you and I’d definitely boot you out were I him if you broke up with him.

i just want a break from everything, i'm not in the mood to ******* entertain him whenever he feels like it because my brain literally feels wrecked right now, lol. i don't see why that is so wrong

Reply 24

What do you think it would take to unwreck your brain? Or to take away the feeling that your brain is wrecked?

Reply 25

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by Dunnig Kruger
What do you think it would take to unwreck your brain? Or to take away the feeling that your brain is wrecked?

idk, lots of peace and quiet, and probably laying off xanax and alcohol for a while.

Reply 26

Go ahead and do it. See how you get on. Trying to do something to sort your head out is better than doing nothing. Even it doesn't work out. At least you tried.

If you think you'd get more peace and quiet by getting out of your shared home for a while; do that. Leave him a tear-jerking note along the lines of "I love you very much. Right now I can't demonstrate the love that I feel for you because I feel like my brain is wrecked. So I've gone to a monk-like retreat for a while to try to sort myself out. Don't worry. I'll be back!"

Reply 27

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by Ciel.
i just want a break from everything, i'm not in the mood to ******* entertain him whenever he feels like it because my brain literally feels wrecked right now, lol. i don't see why that is so wrong

Wishing to take a break from your relationship is problematic.

You should tell him to AirBnB a cabin in the Lake District for a weekend for you both to be away from the world without damaging the relationship.

Reply 28

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by Dunnig Kruger
Go ahead and do it. See how you get on. Trying to do something to sort your head out is better than doing nothing. Even it doesn't work out. At least you tried.
If you think you'd get more peace and quiet by getting out of your shared home for a while; do that. Leave him a tear-jerking note along the lines of "I love you very much. Right now I can't demonstrate the love that I feel for you because I feel like my brain is wrecked. So I've gone to a monk-like retreat for a while to try to sort myself out. Don't worry. I'll be back!"

haha, not sure if the monks could handle my type of crazy

Reply 29

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by Rakas21
Wishing to take a break from your relationship is problematic.
You should tell him to AirBnB a cabin in the Lake District for a weekend for you both to be away from the world without damaging the relationship.

i don't see how being mentally drained, wanting a break from 'relationship duties,' and trying to avoid conflict is problematic, but okay..

Reply 30

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by PinkMobilePhone
I was going to say I've been looking at this thing for my daughter (who suffers from depression) but I haven't quite decided whether or not to get her one yet.
I wondered if it might be of any interest to you:
https://www.flowneuroscience.com/

This stuff is really interesting. I dont know much about electric current stimulation but electromagnetic wave therapies are a little similar. I used the latter recovering from a brain injury and I think it helped a lot.

Reply 31

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by Ciel.
i don't see how being mentally drained, wanting a break from 'relationship duties,' and trying to avoid conflict is problematic, but okay..

As has been mentioned, wanting to end things, which is how this would likely be interpreted, will be a problem for a lot of people?

Push comes to shove you want space but you don't have any and you aren't really willing to do the things to get your own, so you're trying to create your 'space' inside the actual space of the person you want space from... It's just not going to work out that way without causing quite a lot of resentment towards you.

Reply 32

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by Ciel.
i don't see how being mentally drained, wanting a break from 'relationship duties,' and trying to avoid conflict is problematic, but okay..

Well yours is a bad example because you have a horrid dynamic but in a healthy relationship, you should separate the family from the world. If you want a relationship break then that signifies larger issues.

It goes without saying but one of the defining qualities of being in a relationship is that you are committed to said person. Commitment cannot and should not be an on-off.

Reply 33

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by Rakas21
Well yours is a bad example because you have a horrid dynamic but in a healthy relationship, you should separate the family from the world. If you want a relationship break then that signifies larger issues.
It goes without saying but one of the defining qualities of being in a relationship is that you are committed to said person. Commitment cannot and should not be an on-off.

Horrid dynamic?

In some ways Ciel and his boyfriend have the strongest and most beautiful relationship I've ever come across.
The way they've always made up with each other after falling out.

And yes it IS fine if the commitment waxes and wanes within a relationship.
In terms of the time each person spends with each other.

Especially in the context of Ciel feeling like his brain is wrecked. So that fixing that or mitigating it should take highest priority above everything else in his life, with his boyfriend giving it a high priority too, if he's thinking straight, which he wasn't when Ciel first raised the idea of taking a break.

This is the real world, not some Disney movie.

Reply 34

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by Dunnig Kruger
Horrid dynamic?
In some ways Ciel and his boyfriend have the strongest and most beautiful relationship I've ever come across.
The way they've always made up with each other after falling out.
And yes it IS fine if the commitment waxes and wanes within a relationship.
In terms of the time each person spends with each other.
Especially in the context of Ciel feeling like his brain is wrecked. So that fixing that or mitigating it should take highest priority above everything else in his life, with his boyfriend giving it a high priority too, if he's thinking straight, which he wasn't when Ciel first raised the idea of taking a break.
This is the real world, not some Disney movie.

In the real world, relationship breaks are just a slow car crash. They very rarely signal that the relationship will bear fruit (i.e. marriage).

Reply 35

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by Rakas21
In the real world, relationship breaks are just a slow car crash. They very rarely signal that the relationship will bear fruit (i.e. marriage).

In Ciel and his boyfriend's real world, if they fall out over Ciel taking a break, their past history indicates they will make up when Ciel returns.

The "very rarely" epithet applies to their relationship. Due to how wonderfully strong they are in the make-up department.

Reply 36

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by StriderHort
As has been mentioned, wanting to end things, which is how this would likely be interpreted, will be a problem for a lot of people?
Push comes to shove you want space but you don't have any and you aren't really willing to do the things to get your own, so you're trying to create your 'space' inside the actual space of the person you want space from... It's just not going to work out that way without causing quite a lot of resentment towards you.

i don't wanna end things though, i just want some some space. i need a break from all human interaction, not just him. he's not the problem

Reply 37

Original post
by Rakas21
Well yours is a bad example because you have a horrid dynamic but in a healthy relationship, you should separate the family from the world. If you want a relationship break then that signifies larger issues.
It goes without saying but one of the defining qualities of being in a relationship is that you are committed to said person. Commitment cannot and should not be an on-off.

you keep talking about commitment, but it’s not like I’m planning to date anyone else in the meantime. i just want a break from everything, especially the physical aspect of our relationship. that doesn’t mean i want to be involved in that way with anyone else tho

Reply 38

Original post
by Ciel.
you keep talking about commitment, but it’s not like I’m planning to date anyone else in the meantime. i just want a break from everything, especially the physical aspect of our relationship. that doesn’t mean i want to be involved in that way with anyone else tho

See the problem is that he doesn't believe that or doesn't trust you not to even if not intentional from the outset. I don't entirely disagree.

If you have a married relative to stay with that may comfort him albeit you wouldn't get your 100% space.

This is an instance where the compromise may have to be space from the world but not him (cabin in the woods) or a reduced cut off from the world to stay with somebody he trusts (your considerably less likely to go out and do something if with a parent or married relative).
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Reply 39

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by Rakas21
See the problem is that he doesn't believe that or doesn't trust you not to even if not intentional from the outset. I don't entirely disagree.
If you have a married relative to stay with that may comfort him albeit you wouldn't get your 100% space.
This is an instance where the compromise may have to be space from the world but not him (cabin in the woods) or a reduced cut off from the world to stay with somebody he trusts (your considerably less likely to go out and do something if with a parent or married relative).

yeah, i do think trust is the biggest issue here
it is what it is i guess. i give up on the idea. i don't have the energy to try reasoning with him anymore

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