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Reply 1

should go colourless (Mn2+(aq) formed) :smile:

Reply 2

EierVonSatan
should go colourless (Mn2+(aq) formed) :smile:


Essentially this is correct. Although Mn2+ actually forms a very pale pink solution, the dilution is usually such that it appears virtually colourless.

Reply 3

colourless

Reply 4

Colourless. It's a test for a double bond in a hydrocarbon is it not?

Reply 5

charco
Essentially this is correct. Although Mn2+ actually forms a very pale pink solution, the dilution is usually such that it appears virtually colourless.


Are you at oxford?

Reply 6

Draconis
Colourless. It's a test for a double bond in a hydrocarbon is it not?


You are thinking of Bromine solution.

Pottasiu manganate - reducing agent.

Reply 7

DeanK2
You are thinking of Bromine solution.

Pottasiu manganate - reducing agent.

I'm pretty sure Potassium Manganate is one also. Acidified, that is.

Reply 8

DeanK2
Are you at oxford?


very, very cold - I'm about 2000 miles from Oxford...

but I will be in Oxford in about 3 days

Reply 9

charco
Essentially this is correct. Although Mn2+ actually forms a very pale pink solution, the dilution is usually such that it appears virtually colourless.


Yeah, good point :smile:

Though I do this type of oxidation in neutral/basic conditions and it gives me the horrible brownness of MnO2 :shifty:

Reply 10

charco
very, very cold - I'm about 2000 miles from Oxford


:frown:

Someone doing chemistry was a runner - and he had the nickname Charco??? Was this you???

Reply 11

Draconis
I'm pretty sure Potassium Manganate is one also. Acidified, that is.


Nope it is not. Bromine solution crudely test for c double bonds, while pottasium manganate has no affect on c double bonds.

Reply 12

DeanK2
:frown:

Someone doing chemistry was a runner - and he had the nickname Charco??? Was this you???


He must have been a good runner to be 2000 miles away by now!

Reply 13

colourless dawwwwwwwg :cool:

Reply 14

DeanK2
:frown:

Someone doing chemistry was a runner - and he had the nickname Charco??? Was this you???


I think charco is a slightly seasoned graduate (at least once over :p:) Dean

No offence charco, correct me if I'm horribly wrong :smile:

Reply 15

EierVonSatan
I think charco is a slightly seasoned graduate (at least once over :p:) Dean

No offence charco, correct me if I'm horribly wrong :smile:


I'll take 'slightly seasoned' with a pinch of salt...

no offence taken. :smile:

Reply 16

DeanK2
Nope it is not. Bromine solution crudely test for c double bonds, while pottasium manganate has no affect on c double bonds.

Really? Anyone care to verify this?
I'm so sure I've read that it is..

Reply 17

Draconis
Really? Anyone care to verify this?
I'm so sure I've read that it is..


Double bonds in alkenes (and phenol) decolourise bromine water

KMnO4 (an oxidant) reacts with the double bonds in alkenes to form a diol :smile:

Reply 18

purple to colourless

Reply 19

Original post by Draconis
Really? Anyone care to verify this?
I'm so sure I've read that it is..

Acidified Potassium Manganate/ Potassium Dichromate are used to oxidise alcohols to alkanoic acids, bromine water is used to diffrenciate between C-C single bonds and double bonds