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sixth form social struggles

I feel quite sad and out of place in sixth form right now. It used to be a lot better, especially in the first half-term when everyone was getting to know each other and life was quite chill (no academic pressure.) I feel like some girls and boys gravitated towards me and genuinely enjoyed my presence at that point in time. In one party a while ago around when school started, I was quite drunk (like most people there) and over spoke a bit and acted a bit goofy, but is that even a big deal? Lots of girls and boys do crazy stuff like back-stab, talk bad, date and have messy breakups and make out + throw up etc. I didn't even do anything bad or rude since then, but I have a deep gut feeling that I am disliked and 'weird' in the social aspect. In the beginning of school, people invited me to 4/5 parties (which is a LOT!) For the first half term, I went out most weekends. In the second half term, I still had friends but it fizzled out a bit and I feel like people grouped up and left me in an awkward groupless position. Since January, I have been actively trying to hang out with people and diversify my social connections, but it feels like they allow me to sit/hang out with them, but I am not 'one of them.' When I talk to them, they respond nicely and let me sit there, but will not really approach me first much. Also, a girl I was close to in the first term doesn't talk to me that much anymore, but I think we are civil (she is friendly enough when we interact occasionally, and obviously groups shift.) To be fair, I need to ask more girls and boys to hang out with me, as in the past people would do so to me, but I never really asked people first. Of course, friends can not just be given out like amazon packages. How can I get invited to parties again? What if I gently ask someone if I can come, as I have invited them to parties in the past when they weren't invited. I am really scared and have a gut feeling that I am slightly socially rejected/marginalised, but I am an overthinker and I give people's opinions too much importance due to my own low self esteem. In fact, it is possible that people like me but my own mental blocks and anxiety prevents me from solidifying good friendships. Do I need to ask people to hang out, or maybe I should do something to increase my visibility in the social aspect (advice please e.g. post on insta/tiktok to seem 'cool' and 'confident.') I really would like some good advice, as it is March already and school ends in 4ish months, and I haven't fully taken hold of the experience which my parents pay A LOT for. I think I heard a dude say I have a lack in certain social areas, and a girl said something vaguely similar. (but the girl is a freak herself so idc about her opinion.) What does this mean about me, and how can I improve it? In conversations, I frequently ask questions, seem involved and have made people laugh before. I am just a bit insecure of myself, but I DO TALK to others, and include myself and try to seem secure (how would they really know?) I feel like I have been spiralling since the party, in which I didn't even do anything cruel or bad. Some people in school settings are 'strange NPCs', and I am scared that is me for some reason. I want people to enjoy my presence, like my company and truly think I am normal and a cool and chill girl. Please give me some good advice on this, for a sixth form teen Y12 girl going to a private school in the UK. Please tell me how to know what people really think of me, how to improve my social impression and standing, let me know if I am actually hated and weird, or self-isolating due to a fear of it, and how to increase my visibility and get invited to more social events. I need actual clear actionable feedback e.g. ask the girl in your German class to go out with you for dinner or gently ask someone who is hosting about it and say it sounds fun etc. Please tell me if I am really that messed up or not. Many girls have actually had beef with others, resulting in solid conflicts. I haven't, so surely I can't be that hated. Also, a girl I thought smirked when I sat down next to her came up to me yesterday at a school event, hugged me and complimented me. I used to think she disliked me, but maybe she didn't as why would she be sweet to me if she thought I wasn't cool. Also, in terms of being a nice social person, how do I improve this e.g. make eye contact, modulate voice or things to say to people in social settings without seeming off-putting and odd. Just to add, I have NEVER asked anyone to hang out with me first, or show real interest in pursuing a friendship other than eating with them at lunch and liking and commenting on their posts, or saying nice things around them at school. Also, is it weird or possible to compliment people too much?

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Reply 1

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by Anonymous
I feel quite sad and out of place in sixth form right now. It used to be a lot better, especially in the first half-term when everyone was getting to know each other and life was quite chill (no academic pressure.) I feel like some girls and boys gravitated towards me and genuinely enjoyed my presence at that point in time. In one party a while ago around when school started, I was quite drunk (like most people there) and over spoke a bit and acted a bit goofy, but is that even a big deal? Lots of girls and boys do crazy stuff like back-stab, talk bad, date and have messy breakups and make out + throw up etc. I didn't even do anything bad or rude since then, but I have a deep gut feeling that I am disliked and 'weird' in the social aspect. In the beginning of school, people invited me to 4/5 parties (which is a LOT!) For the first half term, I went out most weekends. In the second half term, I still had friends but it fizzled out a bit and I feel like people grouped up and left me in an awkward groupless position. Since January, I have been actively trying to hang out with people and diversify my social connections, but it feels like they allow me to sit/hang out with them, but I am not 'one of them.' When I talk to them, they respond nicely and let me sit there, but will not really approach me first much. Also, a girl I was close to in the first term doesn't talk to me that much anymore, but I think we are civil (she is friendly enough when we interact occasionally, and obviously groups shift.) To be fair, I need to ask more girls and boys to hang out with me, as in the past people would do so to me, but I never really asked people first. Of course, friends can not just be given out like amazon packages. How can I get invited to parties again? What if I gently ask someone if I can come, as I have invited them to parties in the past when they weren't invited. I am really scared and have a gut feeling that I am slightly socially rejected/marginalised, but I am an overthinker and I give people's opinions too much importance due to my own low self esteem. In fact, it is possible that people like me but my own mental blocks and anxiety prevents me from solidifying good friendships. Do I need to ask people to hang out, or maybe I should do something to increase my visibility in the social aspect (advice please e.g. post on insta/tiktok to seem 'cool' and 'confident.') I really would like some good advice, as it is March already and school ends in 4ish months, and I haven't fully taken hold of the experience which my parents pay A LOT for. I think I heard a dude say I have a lack in certain social areas, and a girl said something vaguely similar. (but the girl is a freak herself so idc about her opinion.) What does this mean about me, and how can I improve it? In conversations, I frequently ask questions, seem involved and have made people laugh before. I am just a bit insecure of myself, but I DO TALK to others, and include myself and try to seem secure (how would they really know?) I feel like I have been spiralling since the party, in which I didn't even do anything cruel or bad. Some people in school settings are 'strange NPCs', and I am scared that is me for some reason. I want people to enjoy my presence, like my company and truly think I am normal and a cool and chill girl. Please give me some good advice on this, for a sixth form teen Y12 girl going to a private school in the UK. Please tell me how to know what people really think of me, how to improve my social impression and standing, let me know if I am actually hated and weird, or self-isolating due to a fear of it, and how to increase my visibility and get invited to more social events. I need actual clear actionable feedback e.g. ask the girl in your German class to go out with you for dinner or gently ask someone who is hosting about it and say it sounds fun etc. Please tell me if I am really that messed up or not. Many girls have actually had beef with others, resulting in solid conflicts. I haven't, so surely I can't be that hated. Also, a girl I thought smirked when I sat down next to her came up to me yesterday at a school event, hugged me and complimented me. I used to think she disliked me, but maybe she didn't as why would she be sweet to me if she thought I wasn't cool. Also, in terms of being a nice social person, how do I improve this e.g. make eye contact, modulate voice or things to say to people in social settings without seeming off-putting and odd. Just to add, I have NEVER asked anyone to hang out with me first, or show real interest in pursuing a friendship other than eating with them at lunch and liking and commenting on their posts, or saying nice things around them at school. Also, is it weird or possible to compliment people too much?

Yes it’s possible to compliment people too much - it could come across as creepy or not genuine if you do it too much.

Do not attempt to compete on social media - real friends won’t care about that at all!

Yes you need to invite people out sometimes. Ask someone when other people aren’t around so you don’t feel upset or embarrassed if they don’t want to. Ask if they are free sometime at the weekend or after school to go some place with you. Perhaps better to start by not asking a large group, instead ask one or two people who you like because they have similar interests to you (hobbies, a sense of humour or favourite TV programmes). Keep the meet up short to start with (about 2 hours) Get to know them when you go out with them to see if they are your kind of person and if you are their kind of person (it has to work both ways: you like them and they like you) They might want to do it again another time or they might not. That’s ok. They are not bad people and nor are you, perhaps you are just not in a place where you will be close friends atm. Ask a different person if they say no or don’t want to hang out again.

Scrap wanting to go to all the parties and instead try making a closer friend or two. Go go bowling or to the cinema or a sporting activity or just a cafe for a drink with one or two people. No one needs a massive social circle. A handful of good friends is worth more than a million online followers or being invited to all the parties!

Perhaps try to curb your judgements of people too. There’s no ‘freaks’ in life, just individuality that should be respected!

Some people have one best pal they glue themselves to. Some people like to be the centre of a large social circle. Some people are comfortable moving between social groups. Everyone is different and all of them are valid choices. Think about what you really want from friends and what qualities you are comfortable and capable of giving to friends. You could talk about your worries to your family or a teacher you are close to and respect. Someone that knows you well will be able to give specific advice to you.

Reply 2

Thank you for your feedback. On Monday, I will ask some people to hang out with me. Actually, thanks for your feedback on the too many compliments thing. Actually, someone picked up on it and said it's a bit weird but I am still nice, but just as a passing comment ages ago. I have not really interacted with them for a while, will they be chill with me now since I stopped doing that, and I have not been talking to them for 3ish/4 months now? I think I may approach them and make small talk if that is a good way to make a better impression and start clean without overdoing the niceness. Also, please tell me truly if I have a personality issue, or if people dislike me due to the party thing ages ago? I do actually want to go to parties (alongside nice fun social interactions like bowling and the movies etc.), is there a reason why I am not invited right now? Perhaps my social visibility and choice/amount of friends. Sorry for the overflow of questions, I am just keen for some answers.

Reply 3

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by Anonymous
Thank you for your feedback. On Monday, I will ask some people to hang out with me. Actually, thanks for your feedback on the too many compliments thing. Actually, someone picked up on it and said it's a bit weird but I am still nice, but just as a passing comment ages ago. I have not really interacted with them for a while, will they be chill with me now since I stopped doing that, and I have not been talking to them for 3ish/4 months now? I think I may approach them and make small talk if that is a good way to make a better impression and start clean without overdoing the niceness. Also, please tell me truly if I have a personality issue, or if people dislike me due to the party thing ages ago? I do actually want to go to parties (alongside nice fun social interactions like bowling and the movies etc.), is there a reason why I am not invited right now? Perhaps my social visibility and choice/amount of friends. Sorry for the overflow of questions, I am just keen for some answers.

Try not to worry too much. It’s incredibly normal to sometimes fret about what other people think of us and to question our understanding of the world or it’s people. Even the most confident appearing people are likely to have these feelings, much more often than we realise.

I don’t actually know you so my opinion isn’t as useful as the people who do know you well, like your family and teachers. If your school has a counsellor then I heavily recommend you pop in to see them. They will be an expert in social dynamics and know you and the people you want to be friends with. They will keep anything you say confidential (unless there is a serious safeguarding concern) so you can be fully truthful about how you feel. Speaking to him/her regularly will empower you to learn more about yourself and what works well in your relationships and social interactions. I don’t think a stranger online is going to be that helpful. Regularly updating a counsellor about your weeks worth of feelings/worries/events will be really useful for understanding a lot of the questions you have raised in this thread.

Reply 4

okay, but based on what you described and the fact that I can not see the counsellor due to personal reasons, do you think there is really the issues I detailed above, or is it more of a mental freak-out on my behalf? Please let me know what you think based on my original post, and my questions above. Thanks so much!

Reply 5

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by Anonymous
okay, but based on what you described and the fact that I can not see the counsellor due to personal reasons, do you think there is really the issues I detailed above, or is it more of a mental freak-out on my behalf? Please let me know what you think based on my original post, and my questions above. Thanks so much!

I really can’t give an opinion on someone I don’t know at all! Sorry if that’s not what you want to hear.

What do your parent/s say?

See a private councillor outside of school if you can’t see the school one? You seem to really want to talk about lots of things and learn about yourself, and counselling is truly wonderful for that 😊

Reply 6

I didn't make many friends in the sixth form, and I didn't stay friends with any of them when it ended. If you feel like you're doing badly socially at this point, you need to not make the mistakes I made and nip this in the bud whilst you still can.

Reply 7

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by Doomotron
I didn't make many friends in the sixth form, and I didn't stay friends with any of them when it ended. If you feel like you're doing badly socially at this point, you need to not make the mistakes I made and nip this in the bud whilst you still can.

what do you mean by that? How do I improve and not be in that situation

Reply 8

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by Anonymous
what do you mean by that? How do I improve and not be in that situation

You've already come up with ways to hopefully get closer to the other people in your sixth form. Ultimately some people don't get along with people as well as others do (I am certainly in that group) but there will be a point where other people might begin to think you're not worth their time anymore.

All I can suggest is to try to come across as normal and friendly, and try to get to know the people you have things in common with more.

Reply 9

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by Doomotron
You've already come up with ways to hopefully get closer to the other people in your sixth form. Ultimately some people don't get along with people as well as others do (I am certainly in that group) but there will be a point where other people might begin to think you're not worth their time anymore.
All I can suggest is to try to come across as normal and friendly, and try to get to know the people you have things in common with more.

sure, can u give me examples of ways to seem more normal and friendly without being lowkey creepy and too nice. Also, what do u mean by ") but there will be a point where other people might begin tothink you're not worth their time anymore.' Is this in a sense of time-period, or after doing something specific?

Reply 10

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by Anonymous
sure, can u give me examples of ways to seem more normal and friendly without being lowkey creepy and too nice. Also, what do u mean by ") but there will be a point where other people might begin tothink you're not worth their time anymore.' Is this in a sense of time-period, or after doing something specific?

I'm just talking from experience with the last point. I found that after a while people stopped trying to include me in things or talk to me. First impressions count and I failed at that. For the same reason I can't give you advice on how to be friendly and normal, because most people who have known me don't think I am that.

Reply 11

okay... can someone give me more advice please??

Reply 12

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Reply 13

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by Anonymous
okay... can someone give me more advice please??

please try to separate your post in the future by paragraphs, it is very hard to follow a massive wall of text

yes you should try to be more proactive - i was like you and didn't invite anyone to do anything in high school or sixth form and that included not even going to up my friends when they were in a group or alone, i just waited for them to come to me.
if you want to learn eye contact and voice modulation there are a lot of youtubers who do this kind of thing, but i honestly wouldnt bother with any of this because you'll start to overcomplicate everything - its important that friendship is natural.
you shouldn't view people including yourself as being a "strange NPC" if you're trying to make friends and put yourself out there the worst thing you can do is to put yourself down. majority of people will communicate with you if you initiate the conversation first - can literally be on anything from studies to pop culture or some stupid trend on instagram/tiktok

Reply 14

I feel like everyone smirks and hates when I seem to be around, moving away from me and giggling and when I try to join a conversation they run away. Should I confront them or leave it? I haven't done anything to anyone, but I feel deeply that they all mock me. For example, many do not accept me onto their private accounts, making me feel like a social reject. Am I actually weird and messed up? What makes 16 year old girls dislikable?

Reply 15

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by Anonymous
I feel like everyone smirks and hates when I seem to be around, moving away from me and giggling and when I try to join a conversation they run away. Should I confront them or leave it? I haven't done anything to anyone, but I feel deeply that they all mock me. For example, many do not accept me onto their private accounts, making me feel like a social reject. Am I actually weird and messed up? What makes 16 year old girls dislikable?

do you know if those private accounts are for just irl mutuals, or if they are only for people who they are close with - don't focus on social media if you want to improve your social skills.
a lot of this is in your head, everyone in your year doesn't have a personal vendetta against you, they're living their own lives

Reply 16

probably the first option for socials. for a friend who has been awkward to me since the beginning of January after the Christmas holidays, who I was besties with before, should I ask her what happened or not? How do I become genuinely charismatic and someone that people want to talk to. It feels like I have bad breath or a lisp, when people first meet me they love me for a few months/ few conversations, then they realise that I am somehow fundamentally flawed and leave me completely. What do I do?

Reply 17

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by Anonymous
probably the first option for socials. for a friend who has been awkward to me since the beginning of January after the Christmas holidays, who I was besties with before, should I ask her what happened or not? How do I become genuinely charismatic and someone that people want to talk to. It feels like I have bad breath or a lisp, when people first meet me they love me for a few months/ few conversations, then they realise that I am somehow fundamentally flawed and leave me completely. What do I do?

if she wants nothing to do with you don't give her any thought - just be friendly and treat her like anyone else.
what do you mean being "fundamentally flawed"?

Reply 18

I feel like people talk about me behind my back or something, because when I talk a couple girls/boys often smirk and when I join conversations they walk away. Maybe she said something to them, even tho I did nothing. Or I could be overthinking. Some people are different and weird at their core, there is just something "wrong' and "different" about them. Could this be me? How do I know If it is....

Reply 19

Original post
by Anonymous
I feel like people talk about me behind my back or something, because when I talk a couple girls/boys often smirk and when I join conversations they walk away. Maybe she said something to them, even tho I did nothing. Or I could be overthinking. Some people are different and weird at their core, there is just something "wrong' and "different" about them. Could this be me? How do I know If it is....

even if they are talking behind your back, just ignore them - nothing good will come of you confronting people who clearly have no respect for you to the extent that they disrespect you to that extent.
you need to find some way to build up your confidence through any avenue possible

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