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Advice please, Cambridge law offer but insurance choice

My daughter has achieved an offer to study law at Cambridge. All hopes are pinned on her achieving that offer, but struggling with second choice out of Warwick, Bristol, Exeter (still waiting on an LSE offer). She is focussed on the league tables (where the three all come out differently depending on the league table) and she did love the feel of the law department in Bristol. I’m extremely concerned at Bristol being 2nd choice due to a lack of accomodation guarantee, Warwick has a guarantee even for insurance choice.

I’m also concerned about her being in a city like Bristol and think a campus would suit her more but she doesn’t always agree (some days she does some days she doesn’t!)

Would appreciate any thoughts and advice!
Original post by mathsy2
My daughter has achieved an offer to study law at Cambridge. All hopes are pinned on her achieving that offer, but struggling with second choice out of Warwick, Bristol, Exeter (still waiting on an LSE offer). She is focussed on the league tables (where the three all come out differently depending on the league table) and she did love the feel of the law department in Bristol. I’m extremely concerned at Bristol being 2nd choice due to a lack of accomodation guarantee, Warwick has a guarantee even for insurance choice.

I’m also concerned about her being in a city like Bristol and think a campus would suit her more but she doesn’t always agree (some days she does some days she doesn’t!)

Would appreciate any thoughts and advice!

The fact that "the three all come out differently depending on the league table" nicely demonstrates the limited value of league tables. They all measure different things, with different weightings, and so produce different results. You'll likely find that they also change year-to-year.

You're doing the right thing but pointing out the potential strengths and weaknesses of each of her insurance options, but ultimately it should be her decision. What factors are important to her?

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Original post by DataVenia
The fact that "the three all come out differently depending on the league table" nicely demonstrates the limited value of league tables. They all measure different things, with different weightings, and so produce different results. You'll likely find that they also change year-to-year.
You're doing the right thing but pointing out the potential strengths and weaknesses of each of her insurance options, but ultimately it should be her decision. What factors are important to her?

Really useful reply thanks. I take league tables with a pinch of salt but she seems fixated on them despite my advice. Agree it’s her decision and I’m absolutely leaving her to make the final choice but setting out those factors. She has suffered in the past with anxiety…some days she is head strong and I think she would cope with anything then other days something can make her crumble (hormonal it tends to be) and I feel she needs more a campus style rather than big city. Fortunately she has agreed even if LSE comes in then she should reject as she would never cope with London life and the cost!
Original post by mathsy2
Really useful reply thanks. I take league tables with a pinch of salt but she seems fixated on them despite my advice. Agree it’s her decision and I’m absolutely leaving her to make the final choice but setting out those factors. She has suffered in the past with anxiety…some days she is head strong and I think she would cope with anything then other days something can make her crumble (hormonal it tends to be) and I feel she needs more a campus style rather than big city. Fortunately she has agreed even if LSE comes in then she should reject as she would never cope with London life and the cost!

Understood. Is also worth keeping in mind that a campus university won't isolate her from every situation which might cause her anxiety. This could be due to homesickness, a challenging assignment, a bad mark, friendship troubles etc. - all of which can be found any any type of university. Hopefully her "cope with anything" approach will dominate, wherever she ends up - which will hopefully be none of her insurance options anyway! :smile:

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Bristol is, without question, the best choice she has for an Insurance, its one of the top Unis in the world for Law.

Let her go to the Offer Holder day at Bristol - she can look around, ask questions, and think carefully about the reality of living there. And remember, it isnt about what you might think - she's the one going to Uni. Especially since your rationale seems very questionable - have you realised that Cambridge is a city campus as well.

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Original post by Anonymous
Bristol is, without question, the best choice she has for an Insurance, its one of the top Unis in the world for Law.
Let her go to the Offer Holder day at Bristol - she can look around, ask questions, and think carefully about the reality of living there. And remember, it isnt about what you might think - she's the one going to Uni. Especially since your rationale seems very questionable - have you realised that Cambridge is a city campus as well.

Yes Cambridge is also a city campus but a very different type of city and university with the college system. We’ve done one open day in Bristol pre application which she loved , but when we were in Bristol a few weeks ago (not seeing the uni) she had decided it probably wasn’t the city she would like to be in, but she is still drawn by the league charts so is now favouring it again. We are going back for the offer holder day so will have another chance for her to think properly.

My main concern is securing accommodation in Bristol for an insurance choice, if she didn’t have Cambridge as her first choice Bristol would be ok knowing she would have guaranteed halls. If anyone has experience of getting accommodation in Bristol when it was an insurance choice I’d be grateful to hear about it. (Or bristol accomodation experience in general)

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Original post by mathsy2
My daughter has achieved an offer to study law at Cambridge. All hopes are pinned on her achieving that offer, but struggling with second choice out of Warwick, Bristol, Exeter (still waiting on an LSE offer). She is focussed on the league tables (where the three all come out differently depending on the league table) and she did love the feel of the law department in Bristol. I’m extremely concerned at Bristol being 2nd choice due to a lack of accomodation guarantee, Warwick has a guarantee even for insurance choice.
I’m also concerned about her being in a city like Bristol and think a campus would suit her more but she doesn’t always agree (some days she does some days she doesn’t!)
Would appreciate any thoughts and advice!

May I ask what is her offer for Law at Cambridge and what was her LNAT score? Thanks, i'm in the same boat.

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Original post by KRaphLane
May I ask what is her offer for Law at Cambridge and what was her LNAT score? Thanks, i'm in the same boat.

A*AA, and 31. She is contextual for Warwick, Bristol and Exeter. How about you?

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Bristol is not one of the best universities in the world for the study of law. It's fine. It's not world class.

The fact that Cambridge colleges are dotted about the town doesn't make Cambridge a city university in the manner of Bristol. Collegiate universities are in their own category - neither campus nor city.

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Original post by mathsy2
Really useful reply thanks. I take league tables with a pinch of salt but she seems fixated on them despite my advice. Agree it’s her decision and I’m absolutely leaving her to make the final choice but setting out those factors. She has suffered in the past with anxiety…some days she is head strong and I think she would cope with anything then other days something can make her crumble (hormonal it tends to be) and I feel she needs more a campus style rather than big city. Fortunately she has agreed even if LSE comes in then she should reject as she would never cope with London life and the cost!


It may reassure your daughter to hear that few if any law firms and barristers' chambers are likely to care about league tables. I say this having participated in recruitment for two sets of chambers and three international law firms.

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Original post by Stiffy Byng
Bristol is not one of the best universities in the world for the study of law. It's fine. It's not world class.
The fact that Cambridge colleges are dotted about the town doesn't make Cambridge a city university in the manner of Bristol. Collegiate universities are in their own category - neither campus nor city.

Thank you…I was wondering about the comment re one of the best in the world!

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I read law at Cambridge but visited my brother at the Bristol Old Vic and when he lived there for a few years. Anyway, Bristol is bigger, but it is far better for law than Warwick. I don’t look at every league table but I do help with paper sifts and interviews in Chambers - I’d be astounded if Warwick came in any table based on calibre of student. There’s a lot to like about Bristol as a place too.

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Original post by mathsy2
A*AA, and 31. She is contextual for Warwick, Bristol and Exeter. How about you?

Surely she should get those grades - and if not there may be unusual circs. The college obviously want her and will be loathe to let a place go even if she drops a grade. She’s 99% of the way there.

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Original post by Chantecler
I read law at Cambridge but visited my brother at the Bristol Old Vic and when he lived there for a few years. Anyway, Bristol is bigger, but it is far better for law than Warwick. I don’t look at every league table but I do help with paper sifts and interviews in Chambers - I’d be astounded if Warwick came in any table based on calibre of student. There’s a lot to like about Bristol as a place too.

This is really useful thank you!

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Original post by Chantecler
Surely she should get those grades - and if not there may be unusual circs. The college obviously want her and will be loathe to let a place go even if she drops a grade. She’s 99% of the way there.

I have everything crossed. Predicted to smash them, and in her school she is top in all her classes, however we are in wales where they sit AS levels end of first year, the actual results she achieved last year weren’t quite as predicted across all her subjects. We are fortunate that she has had this insight to learn from and hopefully achieve at least one of the A*’s to secure her place!

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Original post by Stiffy Byng
It may reassure your daughter to hear that few if any law firms and barristers' chambers are likely to care about league tables. I say this having participated in recruitment for two sets of chambers and three international law firms.

Do you have a job yet 😜

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Original post by Chantecler
Do you have a job yet 😜

I have never had a job and hope I never get one.

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Original post by Stiffy Byng
I have never had a job and hope I never get one.

But you’ll accept instructions?

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