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Carddif University or Liverpool, Astronomy

So I got offers from both Cardiff University and Liverpool for Physics with Astronomy, and I have no idea which one to firm. I've applied both with a year in industry and I would love to know which is better in terms of a career and also salary. So if anyone can tell me which uni is better academically and even socially, dependant on this specific course that would be loveleyy!
Original post by Anonymous
So I got offers from both Cardiff University and Liverpool for Physics with Astronomy, and I have no idea which one to firm. I've applied both with a year in industry and I would love to know which is better in terms of a career and also salary. So if anyone can tell me which uni is better academically and even socially, dependant on this specific course that would be loveleyy!

Take a look at the data on The Uni Guide (for Physics with Astronomy at University of Liverpool and Physics with Astronomy at Cardiff University), particularly the data from the Destinations of Leavers from Higher Education Survey. It shows that six months after graduation, those from Cardiff are more likely to be employed or in further education, and (on average) earn more.

(Note that I've referenced the standard 3-year course for each, as I could find no evidence that Liverpool offered a "with a year in industry" variant. What UCAS code is that course?)

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Original post by DataVenia
Take a look at the data on The Uni Guide (for Physics with Astronomy at University of Liverpool and Physics with Astronomy at Cardiff University), particularly the data from the Destinations of Leavers from Higher Education Survey. It shows that six months after graduation, those from Cardiff are more likely to be employed or in further education, and (on average) earn more.
(Note that I've referenced the standard 3-year course for each, as I could find no evidence that Liverpool offered a "with a year in industry" variant. What UCAS code is that course?)

Hi, thanks for your help I did have a look at that but I wasn't sure how accurate it is and if I should really go by that. So Liverpool don't have a different course for the year industry, but they did say on the normal course information that it's offered and they said: 'If you wish to study this programme with a Year in Industry please put the option code YI in the Further Choices section of your UCAS application form'.
Original post by Anonymous
Hi, thanks for your help I did have a look at that but I wasn't sure how accurate it is and if I should really go by that. So Liverpool don't have a different course for the year industry, but they did say on the normal course information that it's offered and they said: 'If you wish to study this programme with a Year in Industry please put the option code YI in the Further Choices section of your UCAS application form'.

Understood. It's always good to be cautious about published data, as it can often be misleading. With regards to the data I referenced, you should note the following, which may impact your view on its reliability:
The Destinations of Leavers from Higher Education (DLHE) survey was a survey of graduates six months after finishing their degree course to find out whether or not they are employed, and if so, what they are doing, whether they needed their degree for this, and how much they are earning. The data is sourced by the Higher Education Statistics Agency (HESA), and draws on data for the 2014/15, 2015/16 and 2016/17 intakes; it was last updated in September 2018. As such, it can be considered quite out of date.
The DLHE survey was replaced in 2018 by the Graduate Outcomes survey, the results of which are available at https://www.hesa.ac.uk/data-and-analysis/graduates. However, it's not nearly as digestible. (The Uni Guide are hoping to incorporate its data, but haven't managed to do so yet.)

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Original post by DataVenia
Understood. It's always good to be cautious about published data, as it can often be misleading. With regards to the data I referenced, you should note the following, which may impact your view on its reliability:
The Destinations of Leavers from Higher Education (DLHE) survey was a survey of graduates six months after finishing their degree course to find out whether or not they are employed, and if so, what they are doing, whether they needed their degree for this, and how much they are earning. The data is sourced by the Higher Education Statistics Agency (HESA), and draws on data for the 2014/15, 2015/16 and 2016/17 intakes; it was last updated in September 2018. As such, it can be considered quite out of date.
The DLHE survey was replaced in 2018 by the Graduate Outcomes survey, the results of which are available at https://www.hesa.ac.uk/data-and-analysis/graduates. However, it's not nearly as digestible. (The Uni Guide are hoping to incorporate its data, but haven't managed to do so yet.)

Ahh yes, Okay I do think that could be quite out of date and also taking into account it hasn't shown directly from people who did a placement year at Liverpool so I'm not sure about it. Thanks a lot for your help though!
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Original post by Anonymous
So I got offers from both Cardiff University and Liverpool for Physics with Astronomy, and I have no idea which one to firm. I've applied both with a year in industry and I would love to know which is better in terms of a career and also salary. So if anyone can tell me which uni is better academically and even socially, dependant on this specific course that would be loveleyy!

Congratulations on getting an offer that's amazing!
I've been a student here at Cardiff for almost 4 years now, and I love it! I don't do physics but I can see that we are ranked 8th for Physics in the UK, and 95% of the graduates are "employed, in further study, or doing other activities such as travelling, 15 months after the end of their course".
And "we're 1st in the Russell Group for teaching on my course, learning opportunities, assessment and feedback and academic support for physics"!
"We're home to one of the largest UK communities of astrophysicists and condensed matter physicists." - This will also be really great for beginning to network, and learn about career opportunities as the staff will have a good idea of the industry and advice for you.
It is great that you want to do a year in industry as well because that will be great for your career as well, where some students have gone to work for Rolls Royce, European Space Agency, Lockheed Martin, National Instruments and Barclays - showing how these companies trust and look to Cardiff Students as well.

In terms of social life, I think there is such an amazing student community here, with everyone living close by (especially after 1st year). We have one of the best students' unions in the country, and they live up to that! There are societies and socials for everyone, all the time, and such a huge range. There are societies for hobbies, culture, sports, volunteering, and even for career development opportunities.

I hope this is helpful and please let me know if you have any questions!

Grace - Cardiff Uni Student Rep :smile:

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