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Durham Natural Sciences or Imperial Chemistry w Molecular Physics

Hello!
I have been very fortunate to receive offers from both Durham and Imperial for various forms of chemistry.
(Im also holding offers for: Edinburgh (Chemical Physics), Manchester (Physics) and I was rejected from Cambridge incase you were wondering)

At Durham, I would take an even split in Chemistry and Physics, perhaps even picking up a couple maths modules along the way. I really like the flexibility of Natural Sciences here and a major benefit compared to Imperial is that Durham would allow me to dive into more physics concepts, whereas at Imperial the physics on offer is structured to compliment the chemistry. Durham also offers the possibility for accreditation by both the RSC and IOP and the overall community feel at here is amazing! I really like the idea of living in a college and participating in various shenanigans with loads of regular faces.

Imperial, on the other hand, has the prestige of being KNOWN for STEM and is situated in the middle of London, which definitely improves its student scene. Imperial uniquely offers summer internships for its students to work within the department and gain practical hands-on experience, while I have applied to do a year in industry at both, this offers the possibility to boost my CV and turn more heads! Chemistry at Imperial is insanely well structured and naturally contains a wider range of specialists compared to Durham which reflects heavily in the amount of 3rd year modules offered. The only major disadvantage that Imperial has is the fact that there wouldn't be as many intense physics practicals. :frown:

In terms of costs, I would qualify for the Imperial Bursary of £5000, which would help massively with London's prices, however this is also something that Durham offers and could be more effectively spent there. I aspire to have a career that focuses on the intersections between Chemistry and Physics, as I honestly love both subjects so much and cannot bear the thought of choosing one over the other.
Imperial offers an already well established course that focuses on these intersections, whereas Durham allows you to build your own course and become a jack of all trades.

I don't know which one I should go for and any input would be massively appreciated! Thanks so much!
(PS: Yes, Imperials offer is higher than Durham's.)

Reply 1

I think Edinburgh (Chemical Physics) is more prestigious than Durham for Physics and Chemistry. Durham is a nice city to study in, and the colleges and quality of student life are much higher. As you mentioned, the program is flexible. If you were considering UCL Natural Sciences instead of Imperial Chemistry with Molecular Physics, I would say yes because the UCL program is well-designed, UCL is very prestigious, and the science & tech option and other choices they offer are extensive.

Reply 2

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by benzobenzene
Hello!
I have been very fortunate to receive offers from both Durham and Imperial for various forms of chemistry.
(Im also holding offers for: Edinburgh (Chemical Physics), Manchester (Physics) and I was rejected from Cambridge incase you were wondering)
At Durham, I would take an even split in Chemistry and Physics, perhaps even picking up a couple maths modules along the way. I really like the flexibility of Natural Sciences here and a major benefit compared to Imperial is that Durham would allow me to dive into more physics concepts, whereas at Imperial the physics on offer is structured to compliment the chemistry. Durham also offers the possibility for accreditation by both the RSC and IOP and the overall community feel at here is amazing! I really like the idea of living in a college and participating in various shenanigans with loads of regular faces.
Imperial, on the other hand, has the prestige of being KNOWN for STEM and is situated in the middle of London, which definitely improves its student scene. Imperial uniquely offers summer internships for its students to work within the department and gain practical hands-on experience, while I have applied to do a year in industry at both, this offers the possibility to boost my CV and turn more heads! Chemistry at Imperial is insanely well structured and naturally contains a wider range of specialists compared to Durham which reflects heavily in the amount of 3rd year modules offered. The only major disadvantage that Imperial has is the fact that there wouldn't be as many intense physics practicals. :frown:
In terms of costs, I would qualify for the Imperial Bursary of £5000, which would help massively with London's prices, however this is also something that Durham offers and could be more effectively spent there. I aspire to have a career that focuses on the intersections between Chemistry and Physics, as I honestly love both subjects so much and cannot bear the thought of choosing one over the other.
Imperial offers an already well established course that focuses on these intersections, whereas Durham allows you to build your own course and become a jack of all trades.
I don't know which one I should go for and any input would be massively appreciated! Thanks so much!
(PS: Yes, Imperials offer is higher than Durham's.)

Can I ask what your offer conditions are for Durham, Edinburgh, and Imperial? Mine is A*AA, and I was surprised that none of them could be considered as an insurance uni.

Reply 3

Hey there, I sent you a DM a few days ago giving my thoughts on the decision as I'm in a similar situation (have offers to Imperial, Durham, and some others for physics). I thought I would just let you know as I'm not sure you saw it.

Reply 4

Hello! Sorry for the delay in replying to you both (I forgot to turn notifications on 😔)
I've recently been to Edinburgh on the open day, and I have to admit Chemical Physics there personally felt a lot more structured and rigorous compared to Natural Sciences at Durham. I do agree with what you've said Heaven, and I do partially regret not considering UCL for Natural Sciences, however there's not really much I can do about it now, so I shouldn't really worry.
As for my offer conditions, I'm a contextual applicant from 'northISH' England and this is what each university is asking for:

Edinburgh Chemical Physics ABB <- This is for 1st year entry and I'm debating whether or not I should ask to switch to 2nd year entry and potentially firming, thoughts?!?!?!

Manchester Physics A*AA

Imperial Chemistry w Molecular Physics AAA

Durham Natural Sciences AAB <- Chemistry, Physics & Maths


As for your DM señor lakustai, I've just read through it, however I can't actually reply to it as my account is too young/ doesn't have enough rep. I agree with pretty much everything you've said. I'm going to (or atleast hope to) thrive in any situation, but the decision is still really tough as I'm still undecided on what subject I want to do out of Chemistry / Physics. Imperial have invited me to an open day, which I hope to attend and really get a feel for the place / compare with my other options, but apart from that I've not really got any other way to get into contact with anyone from these uni's. One last thing to add is that I'm constantly changing my mind on what I want to do, which is absolutely NOT helping in any way, but atleast it reinforces the fact that I'll probably enjoy whichever outcome happens. Have you made your mind yet on which unis to firm/ insurance yet?

Thank you both so much for taking the time to reply to my post! (Sorry once again for not having notifications on)

Reply 5

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by benzobenzene
Hello! Sorry for the delay in replying to you both (I forgot to turn notifications on 😔)
I've recently been to Edinburgh on the open day, and I have to admit Chemical Physics there personally felt a lot more structured and rigorous compared to Natural Sciences at Durham. I do agree with what you've said Heaven, and I do partially regret not considering UCL for Natural Sciences, however there's not really much I can do about it now, so I shouldn't really worry.
As for my offer conditions, I'm a contextual applicant from 'northISH' England and this is what each university is asking for:

Edinburgh Chemical Physics ABB <- This is for 1st year entry and I'm debating whether or not I should ask to switch to 2nd year entry and potentially firming, thoughts?!?!?!

Manchester Physics A*AA

Imperial Chemistry w Molecular Physics AAA

Durham Natural Sciences AAB <- Chemistry, Physics & Maths


As for your DM señor lakustai, I've just read through it, however I can't actually reply to it as my account is too young/ doesn't have enough rep. I agree with pretty much everything you've said. I'm going to (or atleast hope to) thrive in any situation, but the decision is still really tough as I'm still undecided on what subject I want to do out of Chemistry / Physics. Imperial have invited me to an open day, which I hope to attend and really get a feel for the place / compare with my other options, but apart from that I've not really got any other way to get into contact with anyone from these uni's. One last thing to add is that I'm constantly changing my mind on what I want to do, which is absolutely NOT helping in any way, but atleast it reinforces the fact that I'll probably enjoy whichever outcome happens. Have you made your mind yet on which unis to firm/ insurance yet?
Thank you both so much for taking the time to reply to my post! (Sorry once again for not having notifications on)

I suggest Imperial. Better uni and offer conditions.

Reply 6

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by Wired_1800
I suggest Imperial. Better uni and offer conditions.

It might be the 'better' uni, but I'll go anywhere for the right environment and course. Is it worth disregarding Durham & Edinburgh just because of Imperial's name? Thanks

Reply 7

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by benzobenzene
It might be the 'better' uni, but I'll go anywhere for the right environment and course. Is it worth disregarding Durham & Edinburgh just because of Imperial's name? Thanks

It is your decision on the course because you will be studying it. You mentioned the £5k bursary that Imperial offers, so it is a good shout.

In terms of academics, Imperial is the clear choice. You have to decide whether London is the best city for you. I personally support a collegiate uni like Durham.

Reply 8

People who are passionate about natural sciences and prefer to design their own course with a balanced mix of their favorite aspects of chemistry and physics will likely be happier in a Natural Sciences program. As you mentioned, other courses tend to be more structured.

I’m in a similar situation and haven’t made my final decision yet, but I’m currently exploring the Natural Sciences degree at UCL instead of the one at Imperial. I’d love to hear more about your choice!

Best wishes.

Reply 9

I’d love to hear your thoughts on the dual accreditation in Chemical Physics. Does it make a significant difference?

I would consider transferring to the second year at Edinburgh if I were certain about pursuing research, as Edinburgh is highly prestigious in that field. However, I’m still unsure.

Reply 10

I'm not going to lie to you guys, I have no idea which course is the best. The dual accreditation does look nice, especially when compared to other Chemical Physics degrees. The open day Edinburgh sold the course insanely well, but I guess that IS the whole point of an open day... The science college at Edinburgh looks insanely well managed and the degree itself does tick a majority of the boxes I had, but I never really expected to get into Imperial, so I had pretty much made up my mind on firming Edinburgh and insurancing Durham.
Have you made up your mind on UCL/Imperial yet? What are you leaning towards and what would you insurance based off your decision? I feel like we are in a very similar situation right now ngl, so maybe we could bounce ideas off of eachother to help us decide whats best? Let me know if you're interested.

Reply 11

My offer conditions are the same for all universities: A*AA. I was rejected after my Cambridge interview. I want a good balance of Chemistry and Physics because I love both subjects( The Imperial course is more chemistry-heavy). At the moment, I lean toward firming UCL because its course and options are great, and I’ve heard nice things from people about the chemistry course, labs, etc. I might put Edinburgh as my insurance, but as I mentioned, the conditions are the same.

Reply 12

UCL’s social life is more diverse, and I like that I can meet people from different subjects, not just science. Durham’s collegiate system and peaceful student life are probably the best after Cambridge. It’s not an easy choice—would love to brainstorm!

Reply 13

1- If you prefer a structured program that heavily focuses on Chemistry but incorporates Physics concepts, imperial's Chemistry with Molecular Physics is a good choice.
2- If you want flexibility to shape your degree with a balanced mix of Chemistry and Physics Natural Sciences allows you to explore both fields.
3- Edinburgh is highly ranked in Chemical Physics and integrates Chemistry and Physics more evenly. Dual accreditation broadens career options.
At the end of the day, graduating with a 1:1, 2:1, or good marks is what matters most.

Reply 14

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by Heaven-love
Dual accreditation broadens career options.
Durham's Natural Science course is the antithesis of UCL's, as its really just you doing the core modules from both the separate chemistry and physics degrees for all 3/4 years rather than having a major/minor combination that allows for optional modules. As a result, you can get dual accreditation from it, as the Institute of Physics recognises the degree provided at least 120 credits of physics modules are included, with at least 60 credits beyond year one, and a project is undertaken (which need not be in physics) Degrees will need to be individually assessed and graduates wishing to obtain recognition should submit their degree transcript to [email protected])

Reply 15

Another thing to mention is the offer holder days, have you been on all of them yet? I had the opportunity to chat to a Chemical Physicist at Edinburgh and he LOVED the course. The amount of labs you do is insane as you're actually doing both chemistry AND physics practicals. Edinburgh also provides an opportunity to do summer internships from the get go within the departments, which could be invaluable to your CV and would definitely put you at an advantage for 3rd/4th year internships + the year in industry that they automatically offer everyone.

After digging online, I've heard that Imperials Chemistry w Molecular Physics degree starts out very chemistry-like, but then quickly focuses on the intersections between both disciplines (Take a look at the degree overview). Pretty much everybody who's done chemistry has mentioned how they're surprised at the amount of physics content involved in later years. It's a really tough decision to make, but I genuinely feel like it won't really matter given the quality of your options.

Reply 16

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by benzobenzene
Another thing to mention is the offer holder days, have you been on all of them yet? I had the opportunity to chat to a Chemical Physicist at Edinburgh and he LOVED the course. The amount of labs you do is insane as you're actually doing both chemistry AND physics practicals. Edinburgh also provides an opportunity to do summer internships from the get go within the departments, which could be invaluable to your CV and would definitely put you at an advantage for 3rd/4th year internships + the year in industry that they automatically offer everyone.
After digging online, I've heard that Imperials Chemistry w Molecular Physics degree starts out very chemistry-like, but then quickly focuses on the intersections between both disciplines (Take a look at the degree overview). Pretty much everybody who's done chemistry has mentioned how they're surprised at the amount of physics content involved in later years. It's a really tough decision to make, but I genuinely feel like it won't really matter given the quality of your options.

Thanks for the useful info! I haven’t been to all the offer holder days yet. Choosing a firm option is even more difficult now, but I love Edinburgh and its Chemical Physics course.

Reply 17

Original post
by benzobenzene
Hello!
I have been very fortunate to receive offers from both Durham and Imperial for various forms of chemistry.
(Im also holding offers for: Edinburgh (Chemical Physics), Manchester (Physics) and I was rejected from Cambridge incase you were wondering)
At Durham, I would take an even split in Chemistry and Physics, perhaps even picking up a couple maths modules along the way. I really like the flexibility of Natural Sciences here and a major benefit compared to Imperial is that Durham would allow me to dive into more physics concepts, whereas at Imperial the physics on offer is structured to compliment the chemistry. Durham also offers the possibility for accreditation by both the RSC and IOP and the overall community feel at here is amazing! I really like the idea of living in a college and participating in various shenanigans with loads of regular faces.
Imperial, on the other hand, has the prestige of being KNOWN for STEM and is situated in the middle of London, which definitely improves its student scene. Imperial uniquely offers summer internships for its students to work within the department and gain practical hands-on experience, while I have applied to do a year in industry at both, this offers the possibility to boost my CV and turn more heads! Chemistry at Imperial is insanely well structured and naturally contains a wider range of specialists compared to Durham which reflects heavily in the amount of 3rd year modules offered. The only major disadvantage that Imperial has is the fact that there wouldn't be as many intense physics practicals. :frown:
In terms of costs, I would qualify for the Imperial Bursary of £5000, which would help massively with London's prices, however this is also something that Durham offers and could be more effectively spent there. I aspire to have a career that focuses on the intersections between Chemistry and Physics, as I honestly love both subjects so much and cannot bear the thought of choosing one over the other.
Imperial offers an already well established course that focuses on these intersections, whereas Durham allows you to build your own course and become a jack of all trades.
I don't know which one I should go for and any input would be massively appreciated! Thanks so much!
(PS: Yes, Imperials offer is higher than Durham's.)

Hello, but I have applied to university of edinburgh for chemical physics (2nd year entry) and i am wondering how it is there currently? Also I want to ask around when did you receive your offer! im sorry this is such an old thread but im very curious to the course and would like to know from someone there currently!!

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