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I’m so confused as I got rejected today and it say unsuccessful because i don’t meet minimum gcse English and maths requirements when I did bc it same entry for kings whixh I did meet and got an offer for - why couldn’t they have just said it was competitive ?? this just means they prob didn’t even check anything else they just saw gcse and said no straight away

feel very depressed and hopeless as I can’t believe everything went to waste

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Reply 1

Original post by Anonymous
I’m so confused as I got rejected today and it say unsuccessful because i don’t meet minimum gcse English and maths requirements when I did bc it same entry for kings whixh I did meet and got an offer for - why couldn’t they have just said it was competitive ?? this just means they prob didn’t even check anything else they just saw gcse and said no straight away
feel very depressed and hopeless as I can’t believe everything went to waste
What were your A-Level or IB subjects and prehdicted grades?

Which course did you apply for?

I wonder if you wrote a 'stellar' UCAS Personal Statement?

Which other university offers do you hold?
Original post by Anonymous
I’m so confused as I got rejected today and it say unsuccessful because i don’t meet minimum gcse English and maths requirements when I did bc it same entry for kings whixh I did meet and got an offer for - why couldn’t they have just said it was competitive ?? this just means they prob didn’t even check anything else they just saw gcse and said no straight away

feel very depressed and hopeless as I can’t believe everything went to waste

That sucks. :frown:

You seem to be saying that you know that your GCSE Maths and English grades meet LSE's requirements because King's made you an offer. I'm not sure I understand your logic.

LSE say here that, "All applicants who have taken GCSEs/iGCSEs are expected to have at least grade B/grade 6 in GCSE English Language and Mathematics or the equivalent. For some programmes this may be higher. Exceptions are made for applicants with extenuating circumstances."

For which course did you apply at LSE?
For which course did you apply at King's?
What are your GCSE Maths and English Language grades?

Reply 3

Original post by thegeek888
What were your A-Level or IB subjects and prehdicted grades?
Which course did you apply for?
I wonder if you wrote a 'stellar' UCAS Personal Statement?
Which other university offers do you hold?

Buisnes , econ , maths A*A*A - a in econ but busienss and maths A* - my reason for not doing fm was explained by my school due to my health beginning of yr . I applied for math,stat,business and don’t know what is a stellar application bc I’m so done with all this bc it’s just my fault I rlly did fail and stuck I have - king, queen and Edinburgh as offers

Reply 4

Original post by Anonymous
Buisnes , econ , maths A*A*A - a in econ but busienss and maths A* - my reason for not doing fm was explained by my school due to my health beginning of yr . I applied for math,stat,business and don’t know what is a stellar application bc I’m so done with all this bc it’s just my fault I rlly did fail and stuck I have - king, queen and Edinburgh as offers
Business and Economics should never be offered together?! 😧 Your choice of subjects was perhaps too specialised? ☹️

KCL, QMUL and Edinburgh are excellent universities as well. I would choose KCL or Edinburgh. 🙂

Reply 5

Original post by DataVenia
That sucks. :frown:
You seem to be saying that you know that your GCSE Maths and English grades meet LSE's requirements because King's made you an offer. I'm not sure I understand your logic.
LSE say here that, "All applicants who have taken GCSEs/iGCSEs are expected to have at least grade B/grade 6 in GCSE English Language and Mathematics or the equivalent. For some programmes this may be higher. Exceptions are made for applicants with extenuating circumstances."
For which course did you apply at LSE?
For which course did you apply at King's?
What are your GCSE Maths and English Language grades?

I mean there so many issues to begin with on I think so my school as well bc didn’t think they woudl care thsi much about English since I got 5 language and 6 in lit which is a b bc in my exam I did have to leave due to my health but didn’t include this at all as I didn’t know back then about extenuating circumstances besides that kings gave me offer but not LSE - bedside that I know I’m not cut out for it but reasoning was tooo specific and weird whxih made me upset as it’s frustrating to know your not good enough but knowing reasoning contradicts there own requirements is even worse . Either way thankyou for responding do appreciate it
Original post by Anonymous
I mean there so many issues to begin with on I think so my school as well bc didn’t think they woudl care thsi much about English since I got 5 language and 6 in lit which is a b bc in my exam I did have to leave due to my health but didn’t include this at all as I didn’t know back then about extenuating circumstances besides that kings gave me offer but not LSE - bedside that I know I’m not cut out for it but reasoning was tooo specific and weird whxih made me upset as it’s frustrating to know your not good enough but knowing reasoning contradicts there own requirements is even worse . Either way thankyou for responding do appreciate it

OK. Well at least their reason for rejecting you is consistent with their entry requirements: your GCSE English Language grade is below their minimum.

Reply 7

Original post by Anonymous
I mean there so many issues to begin with on I think so my school as well bc didn’t think they woudl care thsi much about English since I got 5 language and 6 in lit which is a b bc in my exam I did have to leave due to my health but didn’t include this at all as I didn’t know back then about extenuating circumstances besides that kings gave me offer but not LSE - bedside that I know I’m not cut out for it but reasoning was tooo specific and weird whxih made me upset as it’s frustrating to know your not good enough but knowing reasoning contradicts there own requirements is even worse . Either way thankyou for responding do appreciate it


What uni you get into doesn’t define you as a person. You’re good enough, don’t let the rejection get to you that much. I promise you’re being saved from a uni experience of having no social life and being overworked. You can 100% get into any career with the current uni offers you have, just focus on spring weeks and summer internships.

Reply 8

Original post by DataVenia
OK. Well at least their reason for rejecting you is consistent with their entry requirements: your GCSE English Language grade is below their minimum.

But I don’t understand a B is also a 5 and even if you saidno this isn’t the case I woudl be rejected by kings they havesame entry .

Reply 9

Original post by Mamaagirlbehindu
What uni you get into doesn’t define you as a person. You’re good enough, don’t let the rejection get to you that much. I promise you’re being saved from a uni experience of having no social life and being overworked. You can 100% get into any career with the current uni offers you have, just focus on spring weeks and summer internships.

I mena I just wasted my application tjey prob didn’t evencheck anything else they just rejected me bc of that and it’smy fault I should explained better and assumed through ourschool we had access to widening participation as wethought that some grades could be increased

Reply 10

Original post by thegeek888
Business and Economics should never be offered together?! 😧 Your choice of subjects was perhaps too specialised? ☹️
KCL, QMUL and Edinburgh are excellent universities as well. I would choose KCL or Edinburgh. 🙂

I wish I was told liek your just not good enough straight up rather than gcse being problem means that they rejected me straight away they didn’t even look at rest of application
Original post by Anonymous
But I don’t understand a B is also a 5 and even if you saidno this isn’t the case I woudl be rejected by kings they havesame entry .

Unfortunately, as a B could be a 5 or a 6 (see diagram below from here on the Ofqual web site), universities can decide for themselves what they treat as being equivalent.



They key thing here is that you don't have a grade B anyway - you have a grade 5. LSE say, "All applicants who have taken GCSEs/iGCSEs are expected to have at least grade B/grade 6 in GCSE English Language and Mathematics or the equivalent." The fact that they equate a grade 6 to a grade B and that you equate a grade B to a grade 5 isn't really relevant.

You haven't mentioned the course to which you applied at King's so I can't comment on how they have expressed their GCSE requirement. However, they use the same B = 6 equivalence that LSE do, according to this table:

Kings College London - GCSE Grade Equivalence.JPG

You say above that "it same entry for kings whixh I did meet and got an offer for" and "kings they havesame entry". Do you have a link to where King's specify the GCSE Maths and/or English requirements for your course?

Reply 12

Original post by DataVenia
Unfortunately, as a B could be a 5 or a 6 (see diagram below from here on the Ofqual web site), universities can decide for themselves what they treat as being equivalent.

They key thing here is that you don't have a grade B anyway - you have a grade 5. LSE say, "All applicants who have taken GCSEs/iGCSEs are expected to have at least grade B/grade 6 in GCSE English Language and Mathematics or the equivalent." The fact that they equate a grade 6 to a grade B and that you equate a grade B to a grade 5 isn't really relevant.
You haven't mentioned the course to which you applied at King's so I can't comment on how they have expressed their GCSE requirement. However, they use the same B = 6 equivalence that LSE do, according to this table:
Kings College London - GCSE Grade Equivalence.JPG
You say above that "it same entry for kings whixh I did meet and got an offer for" and "kings they havesame entry". Do you have a link to where King's specify the GCSE Maths and/or English requirements for your course?

It’s on there we site when you go to entry requirements section it’s the same yet given an offer and one for LSE I just find it really sad as I missed around 20 mins on my English exam on that day due to my physical health yet my school didn’t report this matter and I didn’t worry to much as I didn’t think it would affect me and also so many advisors said to me due to ur background and income status they should understand that it’s was difficult and allow you which is why I didn’t resit English language- I think given alevel combination I woudl not be given a place however it just really made me feel useless as someone got an offer yesterday for same course MSB on student room so it means that they didn’t even read mine which is what upset me as it must of been an automatic response to my failure
Original post by Anonymous
It’s on there we site when you go to entry requirements section it’s the same yet given an offer and one for LSE I just find it really sad as I missed around 20 mins on my English exam on that day due to my physical health yet my school didn’t report this matter and I didn’t worry to much as I didn’t think it would affect me and also so many advisors said to me due to ur background and income status they should understand that it’s was difficult and allow you which is why I didn’t resit English language- I think given alevel combination I woudl not be given a place however it just really made me feel useless as someone got an offer yesterday for same course MSB on student room so it means that they didn’t even read mine which is what upset me as it must of been an automatic response to my failure

It's all very well saying "It’s on there we site when you go to entry requirements section" but we don't know for what course you applied. Different courses have different GCSE requirements at King's. That why, in my first reply, I asked "For which course did you apply at King's?" and why above I asked for "a link to where King's specify the GCSE Maths and/or English requirements for your course".

I think your assumption that they didn't look past your GCSE grades is likely correct. Universities don't tend to be flexible with GCSE grades - especially the very competitive ones like LSE.

Which of the offers you've received do you think you're going to firm? Or haven't you decided yet?

Reply 14

Original post by DataVenia
It's all very well saying "It’s on there we site when you go to entry requirements section" but we don't know for what course you applied. Different courses have different GCSE requirements at King's. That why, in my first reply, I asked "For which course did you apply at King's?" and why above I asked for "a link to where King's specify the GCSE Maths and/or English requirements for your course".
I think your assumption that they didn't look past your GCSE grades is likely correct. Universities don't tend to be flexible with GCSE grades - especially the very competitive ones like LSE.
Which of the offers you've received do you think you're going to firm? Or haven't you decided yet?

It’s math stat, business it’s there I’m just confused on however other pl with lower gcse managed to get in bc that means they did check there ps but why not me like yesterday around time I got rejected someone on here got and offer like why didn’t they straight away reject me and say you just cannot do it . Like be honest given my stats i wouldn't have been given an offer right ? So I’m always the weaker candidate but the gcse just made me hate thsi so much as I was told being from school and background of low income and my health condition on my doctor report I would just be considered . For kings it’s maths and queen it’s maths and for Edinburgh it’s math aswell but haven’t decided just feel so lost and dumb for making this mistake as I trusted other pl words

Reply 15

Original post by DataVenia
Unfortunately, as a B could be a 5 or a 6 (see diagram below from here on the Ofqual web site), universities can decide for themselves what they treat as being equivalent.

They key thing here is that you don't have a grade B anyway - you have a grade 5. LSE say, "All applicants who have taken GCSEs/iGCSEs are expected to have at least grade B/grade 6 in GCSE English Language and Mathematics or the equivalent." The fact that they equate a grade 6 to a grade B and that you equate a grade B to a grade 5 isn't really relevant.
You haven't mentioned the course to which you applied at King's so I can't comment on how they have expressed their GCSE requirement. However, they use the same B = 6 equivalence that LSE do, according to this table:
Kings College London - GCSE Grade Equivalence.JPG
You say above that "it same entry for kings whixh I did meet and got an offer for" and "kings they havesame entry". Do you have a link to where King's specify the GCSE Maths and/or English requirements for your course?

Hello again so just checked for kings isnt Grade B or 6 for maths and English same as LSE and got the offer and anything u for maths / finance all have same requirements you go to maths - press entry requirements and it says further info and it’s a table of info same as LSE requirements - https://www.kcl.ac.uk/study/undergraduate/how-to-apply/english-language-requirements

This is what confuses as LSE then does see 5 as a B/C so upset as to why like I just would of been happier with rejection knowing they read my pas even for 10 seconds but they didn’t . Maybe they saw my week combo of alevels and gcse was a massive disappointment which is understandable bc it’s my fault
Original post by Anonymous
It’s math stat, business it’s there I’m just confused on however other pl with lower gcse managed to get in bc that means they did check there ps but why not me like yesterday around time I got rejected someone on here got and offer like why didn’t they straight away reject me and say you just cannot do it . Like be honest given my stats i wouldn't have been given an offer right ? So I’m always the weaker candidate but the gcse just made me hate thsi so much as I was told being from school and background of low income and my health condition on my doctor report I would just be considered . For kings it’s maths and queen it’s maths and for Edinburgh it’s math aswell but haven’t decided just feel so lost and dumb for making this mistake as I trusted other pl words

Original post by Anonymous
Hello again so just checked for kings isnt Grade B or 6 for maths and English same as LSE and got the offer and anything u for maths / finance all have same requirements you go to maths - press entry requirements and it says further info and it’s a table of info same as LSE requirements - https://www.kcl.ac.uk/study/undergraduate/how-to-apply/english-language-requirements

This is what confuses as LSE then does see 5 as a B/C so upset as to why like I just would of been happier with rejection knowing they read my pas even for 10 seconds but they didn’t . Maybe they saw my week combo of alevels and gcse was a massive disappointment which is understandable bc it’s my fault

Thank you for the link. :smile: That page is a list of qualifications which students can provide to demonstrate that they have a sufficient grasp of English to be able to successfully interact with the course. However, whether it applies to UK students (which I assume you are) is not clear. It says near the top, "Nationals of the following countries, who have successfully completed a high school level 3 qualification (A-level equivalent) in a majority English speaking country are not required to complete an additional English language test." The list of countries includes the UK. Having said that, the phrase "additional English language test" might imply that they still want the "usual" English language test for the country concerned - i.e. GCSE in the UK. But it's not 100% clear to me.

All this is slightly irrelevant, however, as you're trying to use the fact that King's were happy with your GCSE English Language grade to argue that LSE should therefore have been too. Different universities have different entry requirements and different abilities to be flexible with those requirements. It's clearly very frustrating for you, and it'll take you some time to come to terms with the fact that LSE didn't make you an offer - and that it took so long for them to make that decision (which they could have done extremely quickly if it was literally based on your grade 5 in GCSE English Language).

I hope you are eventually happy with your KCL, QMUL and Edinburgh offers, whichever of them you choose to pursue.

Reply 17

Original post by Anonymous
But I don’t understand a B is also a 5 and even if you saidno this isn’t the case I woudl be rejected by kings they havesame entry .


B isn't a 5 a B is a 6

Reply 18

Is English your 1st language? Was your personal statement checked before it was submitted as your English language and grammar is really bad! And you are not listening to what you are being told by people who clearly know what they are talking about, I'm sorry but this had to be said!

Reply 19

When it says B/L6 it means B if you did GCSEs when they had letter grades and 6 if you did them when number grades.

You got a 5. So you didn’t meet that requirement.

What Kings did is irrelevant. Any uni can choose to offer to someone who does or doesn’t meet their entry requirements. Lots who do meet the requirement don’t get an offer at competitive places and in less competitive places, they might choose to ignore that requirement.

LSE is hugely over subscribed. They have to whittle down their applicant pool and an easy way is the GCSE requires which you didn’t meet. So no, they quite likely didn’t read the rest of your application …or if they did, there were still too many good applicants and you weee rejected and it was easy to justify as you didn’t meet the GCSE requirement.

It’s just simply too many good applicants. Almost all will have had the 6 in Eng Lang and many will have had 8/9. They have to differentiate somewhat - and using one of their criteria is entirely reasonable.

So yes, it’s disappointing. But they haven’t done something wrong. What Kings chose to do is totally irrelevant.

Remember too, that lots who did get the 6 or above will have been rejected, some with all A star predictions and likely perfect GCSES and PS. Some who are rejected hold Oxbridge offers. There are just too many applicants …and they didn’t pick you. At least in your case, the criteria you failed to meet is clear - if doing numbered GCSEs you needed a 6. You didn’t get one. Remember too it’s a MINIMUM requirement. Even a 6 would place you low - sounds harsh, but the standard of applicants is extremely high.

If you have special circumstances it’s vital for your school or college to lay these out. But even then, you might not get an offer. Again, loads don’t who DO meet all criteria.

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