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Late bloomer - Clearing with a 6.8 TMUA A*A*A - Maths or Economics

My son has massively improved academically in the last year, it's like his brain switched on when he turned 17, he did ok at school 88776665 but wasn't top set material so didn't do further maths, was more interested in sports than anything else, his 1st year at 6th form he pottered along under the radar, then in his end of 1st year mocks he smashed it A*AB, autumn mocks again he smashed again, his tutors were all very shocked and he was predicted A*AA on his UCAS but since then he's been getting A*A*A on every practice paper and is very confident of getting this in his actual exams and then he gets a 6.8 on his TMUA with hardy any prep!!

This sudden jump in grades is making me feel like he's aimed too low with Uni choices. If he gets A*A*A plus his TMUA 6.8, he also got an A in his EPQ. what are his chances of getting into a decent Uni through clearing, I've read that lots of top Unis do clearing but is it just the unpopular courses, are Maths and Economics available?

Also do any Unis value a high TMUA score more highly than others?

Thanks

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by Zac2007
My son has massively improved academically in the last year, it's like his brain switched on when he turned 17, he did ok at school 88776665 but wasn't top set material so didn't do further maths, was more interested in sports than anything else, his 1st year at 6th form he pottered along under the radar, then in his end of 1st year mocks he smashed it A*AB, autumn mocks again he smashed again, his tutors were all very shocked and he was predicted A*AA on his UCAS but since then he's been getting A*A*A on every practice paper and is very confident of getting this in his actual exams and then he gets a 6.8 on his TMUA with hardy any prep!!
This sudden jump in grades is making me feel like he's aimed too low with Uni choices. If he gets A*A*A plus his TMUA 6.8, he also got an A in his EPQ. what are his chances of getting into a decent Uni through clearing, I've read that lots of top Unis do clearing but is it just the unpopular courses, are Maths and Economics available?
Also do any Unis value a high TMUA score more highly than others?
Thanks


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by Zac2007
My son has massively improved academically in the last year, it's like his brain switched on when he turned 17, he did ok at school 88776665 but wasn't top set material so didn't do further maths, was more interested in sports than anything else, his 1st year at 6th form he pottered along under the radar, then in his end of 1st year mocks he smashed it A*AB, autumn mocks again he smashed again, his tutors were all very shocked and he was predicted A*AA on his UCAS but since then he's been getting A*A*A on every practice paper and is very confident of getting this in his actual exams and then he gets a 6.8 on his TMUA with hardy any prep!!
This sudden jump in grades is making me feel like he's aimed too low with Uni choices. If he gets A*A*A plus his TMUA 6.8, he also got an A in his EPQ. what are his chances of getting into a decent Uni through clearing, I've read that lots of top Unis do clearing but is it just the unpopular courses, are Maths and Economics available?
Also do any Unis value a high TMUA score more highly than others?
Thanks

Hi @Zac2007,

That is quite an impressive improvement. Maths and Economics can be quite highly demanded courses so the courses may not be available at some of the top top universities such as oxbridge will likely not have either of these in clearing. However, many high ranking universities will hold places for clearing. The number of placxes will depend between university and course, but they are often quite limited for maths and econ courses. In terms of the TMUA, this is accepted by Cambridge, LSE, UCL, Warwick, Imerial and Durham. Of these, the best chances for clearing would probably be Warwick or Durham, though this is not guaranteed.

Hope this helps
Matthew
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by Zac2007
My son has massively improved academically in the last year, it's like his brain switched on when he turned 17, he did ok at school 88776665 but wasn't top set material so didn't do further maths, was more interested in sports than anything else, his 1st year at 6th form he pottered along under the radar, then in his end of 1st year mocks he smashed it A*AB, autumn mocks again he smashed again, his tutors were all very shocked and he was predicted A*AA on his UCAS but since then he's been getting A*A*A on every practice paper and is very confident of getting this in his actual exams and then he gets a 6.8 on his TMUA with hardy any prep!!

This sudden jump in grades is making me feel like he's aimed too low with Uni choices. If he gets A*A*A plus his TMUA 6.8, he also got an A in his EPQ. what are his chances of getting into a decent Uni through clearing, I've read that lots of top Unis do clearing but is it just the unpopular courses, are Maths and Economics available?

Also do any Unis value a high TMUA score more highly than others?

Thanks

Unis don't hold places for clearing, and the more competitive the course and the uni the less likely they will have spaces to fill on results day. Unis get A level results the Friday before results day. If they have any spaces to fill once they have accepted all the students who have met their conditions, then they will likely look at near-miss students who firmed or insured them before entering clearing. Oxbridge, Imperial and LSE don't enter clearing. UCL rarely enters clearing and if it does, it is for uncompetitive courses. Warwick states on its website "Maths does not usually have any places available through clearing". What uni is your son hoping for?

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by normaw
Unis don't hold places for clearing, and the more competitive the course and the uni the less likely they will have spaces to fill on results day. Unis get A level results the Friday before results day. If they have any spaces to fill once they have accepted all the students who have met their conditions, then they will likely look at near-miss students who firmed or insured them before entering clearing. Oxbridge, Imperial and LSE don't enter clearing. UCL rarely enters clearing and if it does, it is for uncompetitive courses. Warwick states on its website "Maths does not usually have any places available through clearing". What uni is your son hoping for?

He's firmed Economics at Loughborough and has Surrey as insurance, both very good Unis that he'd be very happy to go to but we just feel he should have aimed slightly higher, his 6th form college didn't help, they had a very negative outlook, advising him that students from his college simply didn't get into the top Unis and saying he should aim lower or risk clearing! He ignored them to a certain extent and got offers within a week of applying at Loughborough, Lancaster and Surrey. The top top Unis Oxbridge, LSE, UCL were always going to be out of reach but we really didn't expect him to do so well in his tmua, I think with hindsight Warwick, Kings, Bath and Durham were all possible if he'd of gone for it.

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Durham had clearing places for maths two years ago, not sure about last year. This doesn't mean they will necessarily have any this year but if you phone admissions at the unis he would be interested in they will be able to confirm whether they had clearing places or not which will give you an idea of what might be available this year.

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by Costajambo
Durham had clearing places for maths two years ago, not sure about last year. This doesn't mean they will necessarily have any this year but if you phone admissions at the unis he would be interested in they will be able to confirm whether they had clearing places or not which will give you an idea of what might be available this year.

They won't know if they have clearing places until A level results week.

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by normaw
They won't know if they have clearing places until A level results week.

I didn't say they would.

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by Zac2007
He's firmed Economics at Loughborough and has Surrey as insurance, both very good Unis that he'd be very happy to go to but we just feel he should have aimed slightly higher, his 6th form college didn't help, they had a very negative outlook, advising him that students from his college simply didn't get into the top Unis and saying he should aim lower or risk clearing! He ignored them to a certain extent and got offers within a week of applying at Loughborough, Lancaster and Surrey. The top top Unis Oxbridge, LSE, UCL were always going to be out of reach but we really didn't expect him to do so well in his tmua, I think with hindsight Warwick, Kings, Bath and Durham were all possible if he'd of gone for it.

Many of the "top" universities had places in clearing last year for Maths. Durham had, Warrick didn't. Bristol did. You start to check from early July as the first set of clearing subjects are published. Loughborough is top 20 for economics and Lancaster is in the top 10 Maths courses in the country, so it depends how you define "top". My advise is to let your son finish his a-levels and check out clearing as results come in. If he has achieved what you think he will, he could "upgrade".

Reply 9

If your son does well above predictions and he's not happy going where he's got a place then there is the option to take a gap year and reapply. He would be applying with predicted grades which would make his application more straight forward. Also he could use the year to do some extra work towards his economics or maths course to show his interest and capability.

Just realised you've mentioned that your son did not do further maths. It is unlikely that the top universities would be keen without further maths for both economics and maths courses - though his TMUA score might help towards that. If the school offers the further maths course there is the expectation to take it. If he does choose to take a gap year, he could then possibly do the further maths A level during that time?
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