how much is alright to drink?
im in lower sixth, and think that i have a reasonably good relationship with alcohol. i drink a few weekends a month, and never to the point of being sick or anything. however, my brother talks like i drink too much, and says it to me quite often. what is a reasonable amount to drink for a girl of my age? i feel fine, and get good grades in all my subjects, so its not like my going out is impacting my life. any advice is welcome x
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Reply 1
Original post by Anonymous
im in lower sixth, and think that i have a reasonably good relationship with alcohol. i drink a few weekends a month, and never to the point of being sick or anything. however, my brother talks like i drink too much, and says it to me quite often. what is a reasonable amount to drink for a girl of my age? i feel fine, and get good grades in all my subjects, so its not like my going out is impacting my life. any advice is welcome x
No evidence-based threshold for safe drinking can be defined, and this is especially so for young people and adolescents, the most vulnerable groups.
My 2cents!
Sandro
Reply 2
Frankly, there is no safe level for adults, let alone adolescents.
Reply 3
Alcohol is a Group 1 Carcinogen. Along with processed meat, eg burgers, sausages, ham, bacon, spam, and Plutonium and asbestos.
Due to the nature of these things, 1 drink or 1 burger does come with a risk of getting cancer from it. It's an extremely small risk. Keep drinking or keep eating the processed meat and the risks add up.
It's your body, your life, your choice. If you do decide to take risks it's better if they are informed risks.
There are other adverse effects from booze. Alcohol is inflammatory - as in it promotes internal inflammation. It's better if what you eat and drink has plentiful amounts of anti-inflammatory and anti-oxidant compounds.
It is true that alcohol increases confidence levels. However it's a "pact with the devil". We have a culture of drinking when socialising. Some regard this as people self-medicating to hide their lack of social skills. It's a "medicine" with a set of bad side effects.
It's better if you can celebrate / socialise / decompress without the alcohol, or with 1 drink maximum.
Due to the nature of these things, 1 drink or 1 burger does come with a risk of getting cancer from it. It's an extremely small risk. Keep drinking or keep eating the processed meat and the risks add up.
It's your body, your life, your choice. If you do decide to take risks it's better if they are informed risks.
There are other adverse effects from booze. Alcohol is inflammatory - as in it promotes internal inflammation. It's better if what you eat and drink has plentiful amounts of anti-inflammatory and anti-oxidant compounds.
It is true that alcohol increases confidence levels. However it's a "pact with the devil". We have a culture of drinking when socialising. Some regard this as people self-medicating to hide their lack of social skills. It's a "medicine" with a set of bad side effects.
It's better if you can celebrate / socialise / decompress without the alcohol, or with 1 drink maximum.
Original post by Dunnig Kruger
Alcohol is a Group 1 Carcinogen. Along with processed meat, eg burgers, sausages, ham, bacon, spam, and Plutonium and asbestos.
Due to the nature of these things, 1 drink or 1 burger does come with a risk of getting cancer from it. It's an extremely small risk. Keep drinking or keep eating the processed meat and the risks add up.
It's your body, your life, your choice. If you do decide to take risks it's better if they are informed risks.
There are other adverse effects from booze. Alcohol is inflammatory - as in it promotes internal inflammation. It's better if what you eat and drink has plentiful amounts of anti-inflammatory and anti-oxidant compounds.
It is true that alcohol increases confidence levels. However it's a "pact with the devil". We have a culture of drinking when socialising. Some regard this as people self-medicating to hide their lack of social skills. It's a "medicine" with a set of bad side effects.
It's better if you can celebrate / socialise / decompress without the alcohol, or with 1 drink maximum.
Due to the nature of these things, 1 drink or 1 burger does come with a risk of getting cancer from it. It's an extremely small risk. Keep drinking or keep eating the processed meat and the risks add up.
It's your body, your life, your choice. If you do decide to take risks it's better if they are informed risks.
There are other adverse effects from booze. Alcohol is inflammatory - as in it promotes internal inflammation. It's better if what you eat and drink has plentiful amounts of anti-inflammatory and anti-oxidant compounds.
It is true that alcohol increases confidence levels. However it's a "pact with the devil". We have a culture of drinking when socialising. Some regard this as people self-medicating to hide their lack of social skills. It's a "medicine" with a set of bad side effects.
It's better if you can celebrate / socialise / decompress without the alcohol, or with 1 drink maximum.
Do you know what else comes with a risk of cancer? Being alive. We are all going to die anyway - worrying about every single thing that you put in your mouth is miserable and is no guarantee that you will not get cancer or some other horrible disease or get hit by a bus crossing the road. Moderation is key, of course, but obsession to the point of worrying about the risk of cancer from one burger is not good or healthy for you.
Reply 5
Original post by black tea
Do you know what else comes with a risk of cancer? Being alive. We are all going to die anyway - worrying about every single thing that you put in your mouth is miserable and is no guarantee that you will not get cancer or some other horrible disease or get hit by a bus crossing the road. Moderation is key, of course, but obsession to the point of worrying about the risk of cancer from one burger is not good or healthy for you.
There are some foods that are anti-carcinogenic.
And many foods that are neutral when it comes to cancer.
As I said "It's your body, your life, your choice."
I agree that worrying doesn't make sense. What does make sense is going ahead and taking action in the light of what science tells us we should be eating and drinking.
It's self destructive to have alcohol drinking sessions. It's self destructive to eat processed meat.
It's not just the cancer risk. There's also heart disease, strokes, dementia...
Taking the self-destructiveness out of one's life is a great way to remove stress and worry. It's playing the game of life skilfully.
Good lifestyle habits do tend to make a significant difference to one's quality of life and quantity of life.
Reply 6
Original post by black tea
Do you know what else comes with a risk of cancer? Being alive. We are all going to die anyway - worrying about every single thing that you put in your mouth is miserable and is no guarantee that you will not get cancer or some other horrible disease or get hit by a bus crossing the road. Moderation is key, of course, but obsession to the point of worrying about the risk of cancer from one burger is not good or healthy for you.
I couldn't agree more.
Who actually wants to live the most boring life ever until you are 100, around 30 of the last years doing nothing but sitting around and waiting to die?
Enjoy this part of life while you have it, who cares what kills you if you are alive now 😁
Reply 7
Original post by Anonymous
im in lower sixth, and think that i have a reasonably good relationship with alcohol. i drink a few weekends a month, and never to the point of being sick or anything. however, my brother talks like i drink too much, and says it to me quite often. what is a reasonable amount to drink for a girl of my age? i feel fine, and get good grades in all my subjects, so its not like my going out is impacting my life. any advice is welcome x
None to be honest and not at your age anyways it’s not safe yet alone healthy you only put yourself at risk.
Original post by Anonymous
im in lower sixth, and think that i have a reasonably good relationship with alcohol. i drink a few weekends a month, and never to the point of being sick or anything. however, my brother talks like i drink too much, and says it to me quite often. what is a reasonable amount to drink for a girl of my age? i feel fine, and get good grades in all my subjects, so its not like my going out is impacting my life. any advice is welcome x
It's natural for older brothers to be protective.
You need to live your own life though and make your own judgements. Never drink so much that you are alone and vulnerable. Dont stay out alone.
Couple of weekends a month sounds fine
Original post by Dunnig Kruger
There are some foods that are anti-carcinogenic.
And many foods that are neutral when it comes to cancer.
As I said "It's your body, your life, your choice."
I agree that worrying doesn't make sense. What does make sense is going ahead and taking action in the light of what science tells us we should be eating and drinking.
It's self destructive to have alcohol drinking sessions. It's self destructive to eat processed meat.
It's not just the cancer risk. There's also heart disease, strokes, dementia...
Taking the self-destructiveness out of one's life is a great way to remove stress and worry. It's playing the game of life skilfully.
Good lifestyle habits do tend to make a significant difference to one's quality of life and quantity of life.
And many foods that are neutral when it comes to cancer.
As I said "It's your body, your life, your choice."
I agree that worrying doesn't make sense. What does make sense is going ahead and taking action in the light of what science tells us we should be eating and drinking.
It's self destructive to have alcohol drinking sessions. It's self destructive to eat processed meat.
It's not just the cancer risk. There's also heart disease, strokes, dementia...
Taking the self-destructiveness out of one's life is a great way to remove stress and worry. It's playing the game of life skilfully.
Good lifestyle habits do tend to make a significant difference to one's quality of life and quantity of life.
I suspect you are significantly older than the average person on here so your concerns about dementia and heart disease and stroke just aren't going to resonate, no offence.
Reply 11
Original post by black tea
I suspect you are significantly older than the average person on here so your concerns about dementia and heart disease and stroke just aren't going to resonate, no offence.
This article
https://stateofchildhealth.rcpch.ac.uk/evidence/mortality/adolescent-mortality/
says that
The leading causes of death for 10 to 19 year olds in the UK were:
1.
Accidents
2.
Cancer
3.
Intentional self harm
4.
Nervous system
5.
Circulatory
6.
Respiratory
Reply 12
Original post by stilllearning123
I couldn't agree more.
Who actually wants to live the most boring life ever until you are 100, around 30 of the last years doing nothing but sitting around and waiting to die?
Enjoy this part of life while you have it, who cares what kills you if you are alive now 😁
Who actually wants to live the most boring life ever until you are 100, around 30 of the last years doing nothing but sitting around and waiting to die?
Enjoy this part of life while you have it, who cares what kills you if you are alive now 😁
Better diet and lifestyle not only adds years to your life it adds life to your years!
The sort of people that live into their 90's and 100's tend to be the sort that live independent lives until very shortly before their death. The passing away in their sleep stereotype. They tend to be the sort that spend 0 to 14 days in hospital before passing away.
The sort of people that have reduced mobility tend to be the ones with a poor diet and lifestyle that have poor quality of life for years before their death.
There are so many conditions that are associated with old age. When the reality is that they are more associated with years on a typical UK diet (with alcohol consumption being one aspect of the typical UK diet). And that these conditions are our bodies' natural response to what has been habitually eaten and drunk.
It's your life. Your choice. No adult has to stick to a typical UK diet if they don't want to.
And on top of that, there's short term benefits to eating and drinking healthier, regardless of your age. Increased stamina and strength, less constipation, fewer incidents of food poisoning, increased chance of a better mood and lower anxiety levels, no dental cavities etc etc
Rum and cokes are bad for your teeth...
Original post by Dunnig Kruger
This article
https://stateofchildhealth.rcpch.ac.uk/evidence/mortality/adolescent-mortality/
says that
The leading causes of death for 10 to 19 year olds in the UK were:And I didn't make myself clear as to a major point that I was making. If alcohol or processed meat had health effects that were shown to be beneficial, such as protecting against dementia, it may be that overall their consumption is beneficial or neutral. But that's not the case. There's further risk factors to consuming these on top of them being Group 1 Carcinogens.
https://stateofchildhealth.rcpch.ac.uk/evidence/mortality/adolescent-mortality/
says that
The leading causes of death for 10 to 19 year olds in the UK were:
1.
Accidents
2.
Cancer
3.
Intentional self harm
4.
Nervous system
5.
Circulatory
6.
Respiratory
I don't quite see how this addresses my point tbh, but OK. If you are going to speak with teenagers about the risks of alcohol in a way that's going to be relatable, speak about the very real risk of death through misadventure due to alcohol rather than about how it could give them cancer or dementia 60 years down the line...
(edited 1 month ago)
Reply 14
Enough to drown your sorrows.
Reply 15
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(edited 1 month ago)
Reply 16
Original post by Dunnig Kruger
Better diet and lifestyle not only adds years to your life it adds life to your years!
The sort of people that live into their 90's and 100's tend to be the sort that live independent lives until very shortly before their death. The passing away in their sleep stereotype. They tend to be the sort that spend 0 to 14 days in hospital before passing away.
The sort of people that have reduced mobility tend to be the ones with a poor diet and lifestyle that have poor quality of life for years before their death.
There are so many conditions that are associated with old age. When the reality is that they are more associated with years on a typical UK diet (with alcohol consumption being one aspect of the typical UK diet). And that these conditions are our bodies' natural response to what has been habitually eaten and drunk.
It's your life. Your choice. No adult has to stick to a typical UK diet if they don't want to.
And on top of that, there's short term benefits to eating and drinking healthier, regardless of your age. Increased stamina and strength, less constipation, fewer incidents of food poisoning, increased chance of a better mood and lower anxiety levels, no dental cavities etc etc
Rum and cokes are bad for your teeth...
The sort of people that live into their 90's and 100's tend to be the sort that live independent lives until very shortly before their death. The passing away in their sleep stereotype. They tend to be the sort that spend 0 to 14 days in hospital before passing away.
The sort of people that have reduced mobility tend to be the ones with a poor diet and lifestyle that have poor quality of life for years before their death.
There are so many conditions that are associated with old age. When the reality is that they are more associated with years on a typical UK diet (with alcohol consumption being one aspect of the typical UK diet). And that these conditions are our bodies' natural response to what has been habitually eaten and drunk.
It's your life. Your choice. No adult has to stick to a typical UK diet if they don't want to.
And on top of that, there's short term benefits to eating and drinking healthier, regardless of your age. Increased stamina and strength, less constipation, fewer incidents of food poisoning, increased chance of a better mood and lower anxiety levels, no dental cavities etc etc
Rum and cokes are bad for your teeth...
Like I said, I'd rather live my life than watch it pass me by.
Even if you do manage to get to an old age, and you look back on your life, will it be book clubs and carrot sticks or parties and steaks? Which do you think you would enjoy more?
Original post by stilllearning123
Like I said, I'd rather live my life than watch it pass me by.
Even if you do manage to get to an old age, and you look back on your life, will it be book clubs and carrot sticks or parties and steaks? Which do you think you would enjoy more?
Even if you do manage to get to an old age, and you look back on your life, will it be book clubs and carrot sticks or parties and steaks? Which do you think you would enjoy more?
I suspect he has lived his fair share of parties and steaks when he was younger...
Reply 18
Original post by stilllearning123
Like I said, I'd rather live my life than watch it pass me by.
Even if you do manage to get to an old age, and you look back on your life, will it be book clubs and carrot sticks or parties and steaks? Which do you think you would enjoy more?
Even if you do manage to get to an old age, and you look back on your life, will it be book clubs and carrot sticks or parties and steaks? Which do you think you would enjoy more?
Steaks? There's a whole world of food that's more delicious, cheaper and healthier than steaks.
Carrot sticks? Boooooorrrriinnnggggg! Carrots as part of a competently made salad? Now you're talking!
Book clubs? What have they got to do with drinking alcohol, or not drinking it?
Parties? Yes they're good social events. There are plenty of other social events that are great too.
Having sufficient social skills to go to a party and have a great time and to pave the way for the other people at the party to have a great time - whilst being sober - is where it's at.
Watching your life pass you by? What happens the morning after a drinking session? What happens in the afternoon after more than 2 lunchtime drinks?
Reply 19
Original post by Dunnig Kruger
Steaks? There's a whole world of food that's more delicious, cheaper and healthier than steaks.
Carrot sticks? Boooooorrrriinnnggggg! Carrots as part of a competently made salad? Now you're talking!
Book clubs? What have they got to do with drinking alcohol, or not drinking it?
Parties? Yes they're good social events. There are plenty of other social events that are great too.
Having sufficient social skills to go to a party and have a great time and to pave the way for the other people at the party to have a great time - whilst being sober - is where it's at.
Watching your life pass you by? What happens the morning after a drinking session? What happens in the afternoon after more than 2 lunchtime drinks?
Carrot sticks? Boooooorrrriinnnggggg! Carrots as part of a competently made salad? Now you're talking!
Book clubs? What have they got to do with drinking alcohol, or not drinking it?
Parties? Yes they're good social events. There are plenty of other social events that are great too.
Having sufficient social skills to go to a party and have a great time and to pave the way for the other people at the party to have a great time - whilst being sober - is where it's at.
Watching your life pass you by? What happens the morning after a drinking session? What happens in the afternoon after more than 2 lunchtime drinks?
I don't even drink, but it sounds so boring to absolutely reject a symbol of enjoying life just so that you'd live a few more years of an already tedious existence.
I'm well aware you don't need to drink to have a good time, but a lot of good times and funny memories come from nights out with friends when you do silly things.
It's essentially escapism for those who want to forget about their lives, who can blame them? If your life is going good enough you have nothing to run away from, not only is it boring but then what do you really do? What is life really about?
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