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Oxford vs LSE PPE

I'm very lucky to have offers from both these courses, and am definitely leaning towards one, but I don't want to be dismissing the other out of hand, so can you guys please say what you'd do/any reasons I should factor in/any info on the courses to help me? Thanks so much!

Reply 1

Personally I'd go for Oxford. If you don't mind me asking what were your GCSEs, A level predictions and what did you put in your personal statement to get the offer?

Reply 2

i'll PM you all that. any specific reasons you'd go oxford?

Reply 3

Original post by jjel_22
I'm very lucky to have offers from both these courses, and am definitely leaning towards one, but I don't want to be dismissing the other out of hand, so can you guys please say what you'd do/any reasons I should factor in/any info on the courses to help me? Thanks so much!

as i understand the only main 'edge' LSE has on oxford is in its 'networking' opporunities. if you are job focussed (particularly investment banking, but that might be a stretch coming form PPE) then it is advantageous. standard of education i understand is way higher at oxford, and pretty much in all other ways. oxford is better for academia lse migth be slightly better for getting a job. thats my 2 cents atleast

to clarify im in a very similar situation in choosing between LSE econ and Oxf EM, and this has been my rationale
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Reply 4

Original post by David Naylor
as i understand the only main 'edge' LSE has on oxford is in its 'networking' opporunities. if you are job focussed (particularly investment banking, but that might be a stretch coming form PPE) then it is advantageous. standard of education i understand is way higher at oxford, and pretty much in all other ways. oxford is better for academia lse migth be slightly better for getting a job. thats my 2 cents atleast
to clarify im in a very similar situation in choosing between LSE econ and Oxf EM, and this has been my rationale

Hi thanks this is very much how i've been seeing things of late. I've realised that while the culture at LSE might be more job focused, being motivated to get internships, along with oxford being a super target and all, makes that less significant than the whole education and name brand of oxford. Might be different for you tho since LSE Econ is really their flagship course that carries a ton of prestige, whereas oxford PPE has that sort of equivalent reputation

Reply 5

Original post by jjel_22
Hi thanks this is very much how i've been seeing things of late. I've realised that while the culture at LSE might be more job focused, being motivated to get internships, along with oxford being a super target and all, makes that less significant than the whole education and name brand of oxford. Might be different for you tho since LSE Econ is really their flagship course that carries a ton of prestige, whereas oxford PPE has that sort of equivalent reputation

yuh, sounds like you have already more or less reached a decision.

I also made a similar post about a week ago on my personal situation and got a response from one of the helpers that was useful. perhaps it could be helpful for you as well (keeping in mind it is however discussing slightly different courses), so will attach it below.

"What kind of course are you looking for? I expect the LSE course will be more mathematically involved than the Oxford one (or at the least you will have more opportunities to take more mathematically rigorous options through it). The LSE course also permits you to take outside options (which can be to take more mathematically rigorous options in the maths or stats departments, but could also take totally unrelated options of personal interest in e.g. economic history, philosophy, anthropology etc).
In terms of examination formats bear in mind the Oxford exam format is that you take a set of exams at the end of your first year (which I don't believe count towards your final classification) then all the remainder of your exams are taken at the end of your third year (so no summative exams in second year normally as I understand for EM); this means your entire degree classification (aside from dissertation or any papers assessed by submitted work) hinges on your performance in a ~2 week exam period at the end of three years. So that could be quite a pressured experience.
Conversely at LSE you take exams I understand normally at the end of each year in the summer (some options may have January exams too?) and each year counts somewhat towards your final classification (with much less weighting on first year, moderate weighting on second year, and heaviest weighting on third year as I understand). This means you do need to remain consistently engaged throughout the course (although one would hope you would otherwise), but also might lessen some of the pressure of having everything ride on a set of exams at the end of the three years.
Another big factor is living costs - London is extraordinarily expensive and it's hard to escape that fact. If you come from a low income background you can be eligible for bursaries at either uni (and at LSE potentially a rent reduction when living in halls; I think some Oxford colleges have similar offerings), but it's still something to bear in mind. Also consider that at LSE it's likely you would only be living in halls in first year and for second/third year you would be living in a private rental in London (which might be somewhat farther out from where the uni is - you could have a moderate tube commute each day!). At Oxford the exact format varies a little between colleges but for most colleges you live in college in first and third years, many also for intermediate years, and even those where you live "out" in second year this may still be in college managed accommodation. While Oxford is also an expensive city to live in and the college rents are a fair amount for a student, relative to the private rental market I gather they are competitive.
Obviously also the experience of living in London vs Oxford is going to be very different, even aside from considering "college life" at Oxford they're just going to be very different cities. Also bear in mind Oxford has shorter terms and thus longer breaks between terms; although often I understand there is set work between terms and formative assessments when you return after the breaks, this could give some flexibility for e.g. pursuing a short term (ideally paid) internship for example, or simply saving money by being at home for longer.
In terms of career prospects I doubt there is much between the two, and suspect it would depend more on what you yourself push yourself towards at either institution."

Reply 6

Hi if you don’t mind me asking what sort of super curricular things did you do and what gcse and a level grades did you achieve?

Reply 7

Original post by jjel_22
i'll PM you all that. any specific reasons you'd go oxford?

Oxford is renowned for being the best at PPE, will probably be more enjoyable living outside of London as well, but that depends on you.

Reply 8

Original post by David Naylor
yuh, sounds like you have already more or less reached a decision.
I also made a similar post about a week ago on my personal situation and got a response from one of the helpers that was useful. perhaps it could be helpful for you as well (keeping in mind it is however discussing slightly different courses), so will attach it below.
"What kind of course are you looking for? I expect the LSE course will be more mathematically involved than the Oxford one (or at the least you will have more opportunities to take more mathematically rigorous options through it). The LSE course also permits you to take outside options (which can be to take more mathematically rigorous options in the maths or stats departments, but could also take totally unrelated options of personal interest in e.g. economic history, philosophy, anthropology etc).
In terms of examination formats bear in mind the Oxford exam format is that you take a set of exams at the end of your first year (which I don't believe count towards your final classification) then all the remainder of your exams are taken at the end of your third year (so no summative exams in second year normally as I understand for EM); this means your entire degree classification (aside from dissertation or any papers assessed by submitted work) hinges on your performance in a ~2 week exam period at the end of three years. So that could be quite a pressured experience.
Conversely at LSE you take exams I understand normally at the end of each year in the summer (some options may have January exams too?) and each year counts somewhat towards your final classification (with much less weighting on first year, moderate weighting on second year, and heaviest weighting on third year as I understand). This means you do need to remain consistently engaged throughout the course (although one would hope you would otherwise), but also might lessen some of the pressure of having everything ride on a set of exams at the end of the three years.
Another big factor is living costs - London is extraordinarily expensive and it's hard to escape that fact. If you come from a low income background you can be eligible for bursaries at either uni (and at LSE potentially a rent reduction when living in halls; I think some Oxford colleges have similar offerings), but it's still something to bear in mind. Also consider that at LSE it's likely you would only be living in halls in first year and for second/third year you would be living in a private rental in London (which might be somewhat farther out from where the uni is - you could have a moderate tube commute each day!). At Oxford the exact format varies a little between colleges but for most colleges you live in college in first and third years, many also for intermediate years, and even those where you live "out" in second year this may still be in college managed accommodation. While Oxford is also an expensive city to live in and the college rents are a fair amount for a student, relative to the private rental market I gather they are competitive.
Obviously also the experience of living in London vs Oxford is going to be very different, even aside from considering "college life" at Oxford they're just going to be very different cities. Also bear in mind Oxford has shorter terms and thus longer breaks between terms; although often I understand there is set work between terms and formative assessments when you return after the breaks, this could give some flexibility for e.g. pursuing a short term (ideally paid) internship for example, or simply saving money by being at home for longer.
In terms of career prospects I doubt there is much between the two, and suspect it would depend more on what you yourself push yourself towards at either institution."

Perfect Advice - also consider 4 vs 3 year course LSE and Oxford PPE but for PPE Oxford carries more prestige. It is more famous for PPE than Econ, and it's the other way around at LSE. College system is very good and London is expensive. Choose Oxford.

Reply 9

Original post by charlottelong3
Hi if you don’t mind me asking what sort of super curricular things did you do and what gcse and a level grades did you achieve?

I'll dm you!

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