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BTEC extended diploma Level 3 Applied Science

Hi,

If I get a refer for a pass, merit I've passed and Distinction states not submitted can I resub for a distinction. My feedback doesn't state whether I can
.thanks.
Original post
by LA2236
Hi,

If I get a refer for a pass, merit I've passed and Distinction states not submitted can I resub for a distinction. My feedback doesn't state whether I can
.thanks.

See the BTEC Centre Guide to Internal Assessment 2024-2025, which says:

"If a learner meets the criteria for a resubmission opportunity and one is authorised, the learner should be given the opportunity to submit to the full range of the assessment criteria targeted by the Assignment." (my emphasis)

So all grades are possible.
(edited 9 months ago)

Reply 2

Original post
by LA2236
Hi,
If I get a refer for a pass, merit I've passed and Distinction states not submitted can I resub for a distinction. My feedback doesn't state whether I can
.thanks.


I really want to do this course in the src in Northern Ireland is it good cause I want to be forensic technician
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by SMcG08
I really want to do this course in the src in Northern Ireland is it good cause I want to be forensic technician

Are you asking whether the Southern Regional College is good? Or whether a BTEC Level 3 National Extended Diploma in Applied Science is good?

Or perhaps as you're asking about "this course" meaning something you'll study at the SRC after having completed your BTEC? If so, which course?

Reply 4

Original post
by DataVenia
See the BTEC Centre Guide to Internal Assessment 2024-2025, which says:
"If a learner meets the criteria for a resubmission opportunity and one is authorised, the learner should be given the opportunity to submit to the full range of the assessment criteria targeted by the Assignment." (my emphasis)
So all grades are possible.


i wanted to predict my grades:

Unit 12 - P
Unit 8 - D
Unit 4 - D
Unit 2 - D
Unit 1 - P
Unit 3 - M

or


Unit 12 - P
Unit 8 - D
Unit 4 - D
Unit 2 - D
Unit 1 - P
Unit 3 - D
Original post
by binkybowsee
i wanted to predict my grades:

Unit 12 - P
Unit 8 - D
Unit 4 - D
Unit 2 - D
Unit 1 - P
Unit 3 - M

or


Unit 12 - P
Unit 8 - D
Unit 4 - D
Unit 2 - D
Unit 1 - P
Unit 3 - D

As you've posted this in a thread entitled "BTEC extended diploma Level 3 Applied Science", can I assume that's the BTEC you're studying too?

If so, it's a two year course containing 13 units. You've quoted 6 grades, so presumably you're at the end of your first year right now. Is that correct?

Reply 6

Original post
by DataVenia
As you've posted this in a thread entitled "BTEC extended diploma Level 3 Applied Science", can I assume that's the BTEC you're studying too?
If so, it's a two year course containing 13 units. You've quoted 6 grades, so presumably you're at the end of your first year right now. Is that correct?


yes
Original post
by binkybowsee
i wanted to predict my grades:

Unit 12 - P
Unit 8 - D
Unit 4 - D
Unit 2 - D
Unit 1 - P
Unit 3 - M

or


Unit 12 - P
Unit 8 - D
Unit 4 - D
Unit 2 - D
Unit 1 - P
Unit 3 - D

Original post
by binkybowsee
yes

Great. So, the first year of the Extended Diploma actually earns you a Foundation Diploma, so we can work out the grade for that. Although the Extended Diploma's grade is three letters (e.g. MMP) the Foundation Diploma's is a single letter (e.g. M). We don't really care about the grade, it's the points we're after. (Each unit earns you points, and it's the sum of the points which gives you your overall grade.)

You've mentioned two scenarios above, where you either get an M or a D in Unit 3. External (exam-based) units actually allocate you points based upon a sliding scale. For example, in Unit 3 an M could mean anything between 20 and 31 points (depending on your mark), with a D being 32 points. The same is true in Unit 1, where you have a P. That could be anything between 9 and 14 points. As a result, we're going to have to treat your overall points for this year as a range.

At the bottom end, where you just scrape a P for Unit 1 and just scrape an M for Unit 3, you have a total of 99 points for an overall M this year:

BTEC Nationals Foundation Diploma - Applied Science - binkybowsee - M - 99 points.JPG

At the top end, where you're just short of an M for Unit 1 (but still get a P), and get a D for Unit 3, you have a total of 116 points for a D overall this year:

BTEC Nationals Foundation Diploma - Applied Science - binkybowsee - D - 116 points.JPG

The first year of a Foundation Diploma is 510 guided learning hours (GLH), whilst the full two-year Extended Diploma is 1080 GLH. We can use these numbers to scale-up your current points (somewhere between 99 and 116) to what you might get for both years. So that's between 99 x (1080 / 510) and 116 x (1080 / 510), or between 210 and 246 points. The relevant points thresholds for Extended Diploma grades are below:

BTEC Nationals - Calculation of qualification grade - Externa Diploma highlighted.JPG

So you're most likely to achieve DDD overall, but it could be a grade lower (DDM) or a grade higher (D*DD) than that. This is assuming you continue working at the same level as you have been.

Reply 8

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by DataVenia
Great. So, the first year of the Extended Diploma actually earns you a Foundation Diploma, so we can work out the grade for that. Although the Extended Diploma's grade is three letters (e.g. MMP) the Foundation Diploma's is a single letter (e.g. M). We don't really care about the grade, it's the points we're after. (Each unit earns you points, and it's the sum of the points which gives you your overall grade.)
You've mentioned two scenarios above, where you either get an M or a D in Unit 3. External (exam-based) units actually allocate you points based upon a sliding scale. For example, in Unit 3 an M could mean anything between 20 and 31 points (depending on your mark), with a D being 32 points. The same is true in Unit 1, where you have a P. That could be anything between 9 and 14 points. As a result, we're going to have to treat your overall points for this year as a range.
At the bottom end, where you just scrape a P for Unit 1 and just scrape an M for Unit 3, you have a total of 99 points for an overall M this year:
BTEC Nationals Foundation Diploma - Applied Science - binkybowsee - M - 99 points.JPG
At the top end, where you're just short of an M for Unit 1 (but still get a P), and get a D for Unit 3, you have a total of 116 points for a D overall this year:
BTEC Nationals Foundation Diploma - Applied Science - binkybowsee - D - 116 points.JPG
The first year of a Foundation Diploma is 510 guided learning hours (GLH), whilst the full two-year Extended Diploma is 1080 GLH. We can use these numbers to scale-up your current points (somewhere between 99 and 116) to what you might get for both years. So that's between 99 x (1080 / 510) and 116 x (1080 / 510), or between 210 and 246 points. The relevant points thresholds for Extended Diploma grades are below:
BTEC Nationals - Calculation of qualification grade - Externa Diploma highlighted.JPG
So you're most likely to achieve DDD overall, but it could be a grade lower (DDM) or a grade higher (D*DD) than that. This is assuming you continue working at the same level as you have been.


so if i get a merit in unit 3 with a pass in unit 1, i would get DDM or DMM? but if i get a distinction with also a pass in unit 1, it would most likely be DDD?
Original post
by binkybowsee
so if i get a merit in unit 3 with a pass in unit 1, i would get DDM or DMM? but if i get a distinction with also a pass in unit 1, it would most likely be DDD?

No. You still have 7 more units to do next year, right?

All I've done is work out your grade (and points) for this year (which will be an M or D) and then project what your overall grade might be across the two years if you were to continue at the same level.

The most likely overall grade is DDD overall, but that will obviously depend on how you do next year.

Reply 10

Original post
by DataVenia
No. You still have 7 more units to do next year, right?
All I've done is work out your grade (and points) for this year (which will be an M or D) and then project what your overall grade might be across the two years if you were to continue at the same level.
The most likely overall grade is DDD overall, but that will obviously depend on how you do next year.


ohhhhhh. so if i get a merit in unit 3 with a pass in unit 1, i would leave the first year with a merit (could be predicted DDM or DMM) but if i get a distinction with also a pass in unit 1, i would leave the first year with a distinction (DDM or DDD)
Original post
by binkybowsee
ohhhhhh. so if i get a merit in unit 3 with a pass in unit 1, i would leave the first year with a merit (could be predicted DDM or DMM) but if i get a distinction with also a pass in unit 1, i would leave the first year with a distinction (DDM or DDD)

You will only get a single letter grade for this year. So your "i would leave the first year with a distinction (DDM or DDD)" comment makes no sense.

Let's just focus on this year initially, to get that straight. The only grades available for this year overall are P, M, D or D*. We don't know how many points you'll get for Unit 1 (as a P could be between 9 and 14 points). We don't know how many points you'll get for Unit 3 (as an M could be between 20 and 31 points, and a D is 32 points).

If you manage to get D for Unit 3 (32 points) then it doesn't matter how many points you get for Unit 1, as P guarantees you at least 9 points for that unit. So you'd be on a D overall for the year.

However, if you get a M for Unit 3 then things become more unpredictable as we'd need to know the mark you obtained in Unit 1 and in Unit 3 to work out your overall grade. All we can say for sure it's that your overall grade for this year will be M or D.

If the above make sense, I'll move onto a prediction for the full two years.

Reply 12

Original post
by DataVenia
You will only get a single letter grade for this year. So your "i would leave the first year with a distinction (DDM or DDD)" comment makes no sense.
Let's just focus on this year initially, to get that straight. The only grades available for this year overall are P, M, D or D*. We don't know how many points you'll get for Unit 1 (as a P could be between 9 and 14 points). We don't know how many points you'll get for Unit 3 (as an M could be between 20 and 31 points, and a D is 32 points).
If you manage to get D for Unit 3 (32 points) then it doesn't matter how many points you get for Unit 1, as P guarantees you at least 9 points for that unit. So you'd be on a D overall for the year.
However, if you get a M for Unit 3 then things become more unpredictable as we'd need to know the mark you obtained in Unit 1 and in Unit 3 to work out your overall grade. All we can say for sure it's that your overall grade for this year will be M or D.
If the above make sense, I'll move onto a prediction for the full two years.


ohh that makes sense, thank you!!
Original post
by binkybowsee
ohh that makes sense, thank you!!

Great. :smile:

The overall grade for both years is impossible to determine. You might get a P in every unit, or you might get a D in every units. It's impossible to know, but will significantly impact your overall grade.

However, if you were to work next year at the same level you've worked this year, then your overall grade is likely to be DDM, DDD, or D*DD - with DDD being most likely. But that's just a forecast based upon a lot of unknowns. So treat it as being a very general guide.

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