UCL or KCL Philosophy

Which is better , have offers for both

Reply 1

I know it doesn't sound useful but I wouldn't go to either because I think there are probably better university experiences for UK-born students elsewhere.

KCL has a higher percentage of UK born students than UCL.

According to Times Higher Education, 41% of staff at KCL have a teaching qualification, 23% at UCL.(at Oxford, it's 17%, at Cambridge 3%).

UCL is slightly better regarded than KCL for Philosophy these days (see edurank) but it wasn't always so.

Reply 2

Mahzsn

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by Picnicl

I know it doesn't sound useful but I wouldn't go to either because I think there are probably better university experiences for UK-born students elsewhere.
According to Times Higher Education, 41% of staff at KCL have a teaching qualification, 23% at UCL.(at Oxford, it's 17%, at Cambridge 3%).
UCL is slightly better regarded than KCL for Philosophy these days (see edurank) but it wasn't always so.

Where would you recommend instead then

Reply 3

Mahzsn

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by Picnicl

Also I don’t quite get your point about the teaching qualifications

Reply 4

Picnicl

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by Mahzsn

Also I don’t quite get your point about the teaching qualifications

So you'd rather not have teachers specifically trained in teaching students? Cool.

Reply 5

Mahzsn

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by Picnicl

So you'd rather not have teachers specifically trained in teaching students? Cool.

By your metric it would seem that Huddersfield is the best university in the UK , “The University of Huddersfield has the highest proportion of academic staff with a known teaching qualification, out of 130 universities in England.”

A teaching qualification isnt the sole definer of a good teacher … otherwise there would be alot more better teachers

Reply 6

Picnicl

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by Mahzsn

By your metric it would seem that Huddersfield is the best university in the UK , “The University of Huddersfield has the highest proportion of academic staff with a known teaching qualification, out of 130 universities in England.”
A teaching qualification isnt the sole definer of a good teacher … otherwise there would be alot more better teachers

We're doing strawman arguments now, are we? I didn't say that it's the sole indicator of what is best. But if 2 universities are close in quality, as these 2 are, it might be a distinguishing factor for some students.

Reply 7

Picnicl

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by Mahzsn

Where would you recommend instead then

Birmingham, Glasgow, Bristol.
But I take it back about UK born students necessarily having a better time elsewhere than London.
Visit each place and work out which feels right.

Reply 8

Anonymous #1

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by Picnicl

I know it doesn't sound useful but I wouldn't go to either because I think there are probably better university experiences for UK-born students elsewhere.
KCL has a higher percentage of UK born students than UCL.
According to Times Higher Education, 41% of staff at KCL have a teaching qualification, 23% at UCL.(at Oxford, it's 17%, at Cambridge 3%).
UCL is slightly better regarded than KCL for Philosophy these days (see edurank) but it wasn't always so.

‘uk born students’ lol what is wrong with u

Reply 9

Picnicl

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by Anonymous

‘uk born students’ lol what is wrong with u

They are far more likely to socialise with UK born students.

Reply 10

Anonymous #2

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by Picnicl

I know it doesn't sound useful but I wouldn't go to either because I think there are probably better university experiences for UK-born students elsewhere.
KCL has a higher percentage of UK born students than UCL.
According to Times Higher Education, 41% of staff at KCL have a teaching qualification, 23% at UCL.(at Oxford, it's 17%, at Cambridge 3%).
UCL is slightly better regarded than KCL for Philosophy these days (see edurank) but it wasn't always so.

this sounds so xenophobic 😭

Reply 11

Picnicl

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by Anonymous

this sounds so xenophobic 😭

In the same way that a rabbit probably wouldn't choose to be in an environment with a fox, there can be differences between someone who's strived or connived to study many miles from where they've lived (more likely to be using daddy's money, for a start) and myself.
I'm not xenophobic but, in general, a certain kind of humourless, laser-focussed on only entertaining certain people, eye on getting a well paid job rather than necessarily education for education's sake, person is going to do that journey to the UK.

It is possibly partly for reasons like this why relatively few people who write on forums anecdotally say how amazing an experience LSE, UCL, or Edinburgh were.