OCR A Level Classical Civilisation Paper 1 (H408/11) - 13th May 2025 [Exam Chat]

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by Tom_C69420

guys a little bird told me that tomorrows 30 marker will be on the character of evander and eumaeus

surely their characters are not explored enough and built upon in the epic for a 30 marker? mabye a 20 marker but still ...

Reply 21

poubis

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by Tom_C69420

guys a little bird told me that tomorrows 30 marker will be on the character of evander and eumaeus

doing all the sacrifices and libations i can to make sure that's not the case 😭😭. i hope its something nice like role of family

Reply 22

Matchamoo

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Guys I'm so scared I've not revised at all help

Reply 23

missroseydarlinx

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by genteel-setter

Can we get away with making up scholar quotes in a bad situation. Like i might have to use a real scholar, but make up somehthing they didn't say to suit my argument. surely that would be nearly impossible for an examiner to go thorugh their complete works to find out/ complete waste of time for them?

I mean I'm a fellow student and I would say no, but imo if you know their general opinions and are strong enough to analyse them you *can* kind of make what a scholar says suit your essay, if that makes sense? so for instance if I know (completely made up name and made up prompts for disclaimer lol) Bob thinks that Hector is a really tragic character in the Iliad, I can use that to argue that the Iliad shows the negatives of war through the tragedy of main characters like Hector. or if Bob thinks that Dido is a really likeable person in the Aeneid, I can use it to argue that Aeneas would be 'unlikeable' for how he treats her. Examiners do know the general opinions of scholars (like Hall often talks about women and often argues for women being tragic or overlooked), so if you suddenly started saying something that a scholar doesn't typically focus on or, god forbid, goes entirely against their main points or argument, you've kind of dug yourself a hole for AO2. TLDR; I wouldn't fabricate OR use an existing scholar's name for a fabricated argument. Analyse and reframe existing arguments that you've revised. There's bound to be a scholar for every single argument out there -- even if you disagree with the scholar's point, you can still talk about them then provide good, solid evidence and analysis for why you don't agree. so to use one of the earlier examples, 'Bob thinks that Dido is really likeable, but I completely disagree because of how she treats Aeneas in Book 4' and providing solid evidence and analysis of that. i hope that was helpful even a little bit and pls feel free to correct me -- good luck!!!!

Reply 24

alwysnoakskao

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by Tom_C69420

guys a little bird told me that tomorrows 30 marker will be on the character of evander and eumaeus

bro it better not be omg

Reply 25

bishbam

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wtah was that paper… i mean it wasn’t terrible but the phrasing of the questions was horrible- i swear i predicted the father son relationships question but i wanted it to be the 30 marker :frown:

((((

Reply 26

fleur13!

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the 30 markers were horribly worded i thought i was having an aneurism writing it

Reply 27

brrbrrpa

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Did anyone else think the Iliad 20 marker was pretty bad?? ‘Evil death’ like wtf😭😭

Reply 28

fleur13!

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by brrbrrpa

Did anyone else think the Iliad 20 marker was pretty bad?? ‘Evil death’ like wtf😭😭

i rlly liked it icl

Reply 29

fleur13!

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by brrbrrpa

Did anyone else think the Iliad 20 marker was pretty bad?? ‘Evil death’ like wtf😭😭

i mentions brutal deaths, grief but gives kleos

Reply 30

lilogreenwood

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by fleur13!

the 30 markers were horribly worded i thought i was having an aneurism writing it

what was the odyssey 30 marker if anyone remembers i can't remember how it was phrased. Was it A. is athena or penelope more important to Odysseus or B. is athena more important to odysseus or penelope

Reply 31

ls2

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by fleur13!

i mentions brutal deaths, grief but gives kleos

I did similar but mentioned the formulae Homer uses being peaceful and the ‘evil’ is instead the characters (like Achilles to hector) not death itself

Reply 32

ls2

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by lilogreenwood

what was the odyssey 30 marker if anyone remembers i can't remember how it was phrased. Was it A. is athena or penelope more important to Odysseus or B. is athena more important to odysseus or penelope

It was something like ‘Athena is more important to Odysseus than to Penelope’

Reply 33

ls2

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by fleur13!

the 30 markers were horribly worded i thought i was having an aneurism writing it

Literally! I spent like 5 mins trying to work the Aeneid one before actually doing it

Reply 34

ls2

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by bishbam

wtah was that paper… i mean it wasn’t terrible but the phrasing of the questions was horrible- i swear i predicted the father son relationships question but i wanted it to be the 30 marker :frown:

((((

Same with the father/son relationships it would have been much better a 30m

Reply 35

brrbrrpa

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by fleur13!

i mentions brutal deaths, grief but gives kleos

Yeah me too! It just threw me off at first cuz it’s quite a big topic and I thought the equation wasn’t narrow enough

Reply 36

brrbrrpa

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by brrbrrpa

Yeah me too! It just threw me off at first cuz it’s quite a big topic and I thought the equation wasn’t narrow enough

Question** sorry

Reply 37

pa06

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by brrbrrpa

Did anyone else think the Iliad 20 marker was pretty bad?? ‘Evil death’ like wtf😭😭

i need to know what goes through ocr's head when they make these questions like are they allergic to wording them normally

Reply 38

brrbrrpa

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by pa06

i need to know what goes through ocr's head when they make these questions like are they allergic to wording them normally

I think nothing goes through their head cuz the father-son relationship shouldve also been a 30 marker …

Reply 39

aac659

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by ls2

It was something like ‘Athena is more important to Odysseus than to Penelope’

omg thank the lord because I aswered it this way and have been double guessing myself ever since and was too embarrassed to ask my friends lol!!

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