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A levels Maths Circles Question

https://www.mathsgenie.co.uk/alevel/circles.pdf
Hello I'm stuck on question 19, I don't understand why the centre isn't the midpoint of the co-ordinates since the x co-ordinate is the same. I also don't understand the method used in the mark scheme. Could someone explain please.
Here's the mark scheme
https://www.mathsgenie.co.uk/alevel/circlesans.pdf

Reply 1

Have you tried drawing a picture, showing how the circle and the tangents are positioned (roughly)? Once you've drawn a picture, it's pretty obvious the center will not be the mid-point of the two given points.

I haven't looked at the marking scheme yet, but I'd suspect it will use the fact that "tangent is perpendicular to the radius at the point of contact" twice.

Alternatively, your mid-point idea isn't completely useless. This will give you the y-coordinate of the center being 0 (why? there is a theorem about the perpendicular bisector of a chord goes through the center). This saves one calculation as above.

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by tonyiptony
Have you tried drawing a picture, showing how the circle and the tangents are positioned (roughly)? Once you've drawn a picture, it's pretty obvious the center will not be the mid-point of the two given points.
I haven't looked at the marking scheme yet, but I'd suspect it will use the fact that "tangent is perpendicular to the radius at the point of contact" twice.
Alternatively, your mid-point idea isn't completely useless. This will give you the y-coordinate of the center being 0 (why? there is a theorem about the perpendicular bisector of a chord goes through the center). This saves one calculation as above.

AE7ECE35-A117-468D-BB78-61802DC30562.jpegThat is how I drew it I’m trying to see how it wouldn't be the centre or how connecting the points isn't the diameter. My bad if I’m being slow😭

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by psycho_duck
AE7ECE35-A117-468D-BB78-61802DC30562.jpegThat is how I drew it I’m trying to see how it wouldn't be the centre or how connecting the points isn't the diameter. My bad if I’m being slow😭

Ah, so you've got lied to by the diagram (common occurrence btw, don't worry).

The important fact here is that radius and tangent are perpendicular at the point of contact. If your center does in fact go through the straight line connecting the two points, then your two radii will actually form a diameter, right? Then the two tangents would have to be parallel, as they are both perpendicular to the diameter.. Convince yourself with this line of argument.

But it's definitely not the case here (why?)
(edited 9 months ago)

Reply 4

I agree, once you draw it out using your knowledge of transformations of graphs and the the fact that a tangent is perpendicular to the radius you should get something that looks like this: image.jpg

I hope that helps!

Reply 5

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by purplebarney
I agree, once you draw it out using your knowledge of transformations of graphs and the the fact that a tangent is perpendicular to the radius you should get something that looks like this: image.jpg
I hope that helps!

Its fairly obviously a coordinate geometry/algebra question and the ms is the way to do it, though if you sketch that diagram, you could note that the right triangle
xcoord : ycoord : tangent = 3 : 2 : sqrt(13)
(pythagoras for the tangent length) is similar to the right triangle
tangent : radius : xcentre = sqrt(13) : 2sqrt(13)/3 : 13/3
as the scale factor is sqrt(13)/3. So you can just read off the radius and xcenter and small argument about ycenter=0 and youre there.

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