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Healthcare Science v Biomedical Science

So I want to be a biomedical scientist in the future hopefully to specialise into immunology later.

I know the NHS Wales funds some degrees in Wales for tuition but these don't include Biomedical Science as a degree. Besides that I saw that Cardiff Met Uni has BSc (Hons) Healthcare Science - Biomedical Science - Blood, Infection, Cellular Genetics which is IBMS approved and is funded.

So what advantages does that course have over doing biomedical Science by itself? Both ways I can still become a biomedical scientist (I think).

Also, to what effect does an EPQ help? Like besides course reductions. Would I talk about it in my personal statement?

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by fullofregrets
So I want to be a biomedical scientist in the future hopefully to specialise into immunology later.
I know the NHS Wales funds some degrees in Wales for tuition but these don't include Biomedical Science as a degree. Besides that I saw that Cardiff Met Uni has BSc (Hons) Healthcare Science - Biomedical Science - Blood, Infection, Cellular Genetics which is IBMS approved and is funded.
So what advantages does that course have over doing biomedical Science by itself? Both ways I can still become a biomedical scientist (I think).
Also, to what effect does an EPQ help? Like besides course reductions. Would I talk about it in my personal statement?

I'm not really an expert but I assume there isn't much advantage over other courses, every IBMS approved course does the same content. I guess your one specialised module may make you more favourable to placements, masters etc so there might be an advantage there!

I would definitely talk about your EPQ a bunch in your PS especially if it relates to your course!!

Reply 2

Healthcare Science has more extensive placements to enable you to complete the IBMS portfolio training you need to complete to work as a BMS, meaning when you graduate you can apply for full BMS jobs straight away. With an accredited regular Biomedical Science degree if you want to work in the NHS you would need to apply for a Trainee BMS post for which there can be a lot of competition.

There are some pros and cons to both.

On the downside of Healthcare Science when it comes to a dissertation its probably going to be something fairly practical e.g. validating some new test or analyser; while you get to state a preference for which specialty you go down, the university, the predicted demand from hospitals and grades are a factor too; its a bit more intense too with summer of year 2 until the end of year 3 being one long placement with distance learning. However, you completely bypass the need to find one of the limited trainee BMS posts, you can hit the ground running apply for any full BMS post straight away. And of course you get your tuition fees, a small means tested bursary and stipend, and your expenses while on placement covered too (though you can opt to pay privately if you dont want to commit to work in Wales for a couple of years).

Biomedical Science is going to offer a bit more freedom for the dissertation which might be of interest to those who are looking to use the degree as a route into Graduate Medicine or some other allied healthcare profession as you'd potentially be able to do some relevant research. You're also probably not going to be quite so thoroughly dictated to on what specialty you have to do.

In summary Healthcare Science is Biomedical Science + IBMS Portfolio which you actually need to do the job. If you've got the choice and don't mind working in Wales for a couple of years after graduating it's a pretty good deal.

Reply 3

If I did a biomedical degree with a placement would that be the pretty similar? because I know people who did that and have been doing their portfolio at the same time but thanks

Reply 4

If it's a substantive placement and the training team at the location is willing to support you to complete the portfolio then great! I would check with them and ask those people you know how it's going. I imagine that you want to be prepared for a pretty intense amount of work.

Reply 5

Original post
by fullofregrets
So I want to be a biomedical scientist in the future hopefully to specialise into immunology later.
I know the NHS Wales funds some degrees in Wales for tuition but these don't include Biomedical Science as a degree. Besides that I saw that Cardiff Met Uni has BSc (Hons) Healthcare Science - Biomedical Science - Blood, Infection, Cellular Genetics which is IBMS approved and is funded.
So what advantages does that course have over doing biomedical Science by itself? Both ways I can still become a biomedical scientist (I think).
Also, to what effect does an EPQ help? Like besides course reductions. Would I talk about it in my personal statement?

Hello there,

Thank you for your interest in Cardiff Met.

Please note that BSc Healthcare Science and BSc Biomedical Science are two different courses. But they do have some similar modules.

BSc Healthcare Science has more accreditation than BSc Biomedical Science and the former is funded by NHS.

You can contact Victoria Bradley via [email protected] who will be able to provide more information about BSc Healthcare Science for you and Sally Hicks via [email protected] for BSc Biomedical Science.

EPQ carries lower UCAS tariff points, but we do take the qualification into consideration.

Cardiff Met Admissions.

Reply 6

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by Tformosus
Healthcare Science has more extensive placements to enable you to complete the IBMS portfolio training you need to complete to work as a BMS, meaning when you graduate you can apply for full BMS jobs straight away. With an accredited regular Biomedical Science degree if you want to work in the NHS you would need to apply for a Trainee BMS post for which there can be a lot of competition.
There are some pros and cons to both.
On the downside of Healthcare Science when it comes to a dissertation its probably going to be something fairly practical e.g. validating some new test or analyser; while you get to state a preference for which specialty you go down, the university, the predicted demand from hospitals and grades are a factor too; its a bit more intense too with summer of year 2 until the end of year 3 being one long placement with distance learning. However, you completely bypass the need to find one of the limited trainee BMS posts, you can hit the ground running apply for any full BMS post straight away. And of course you get your tuition fees, a small means tested bursary and stipend, and your expenses while on placement covered too (though you can opt to pay privately if you dont want to commit to work in Wales for a couple of years).
Biomedical Science is going to offer a bit more freedom for the dissertation which might be of interest to those who are looking to use the degree as a route into Graduate Medicine or some other allied healthcare profession as you'd potentially be able to do some relevant research. You're also probably not going to be quite so thoroughly dictated to on what specialty you have to do.
In summary Healthcare Science is Biomedical Science + IBMS Portfolio which you actually need to do the job. If you've got the choice and don't mind working in Wales for a couple of years after graduating it's a pretty good deal.

Hey. Im a bit late but ive just read your post. I will be doing Healthcare Sciences with foundation year in september, and have been looking into employment ahead of time. Would you recommend joining the NHS Scientist Training Programme, or just going straight into employment as a BMS?

Reply 7

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by Joelc07
Hey. Im a bit late but ive just read your post. I will be doing Healthcare Sciences with foundation year in september, and have been looking into employment ahead of time. Would you recommend joining the NHS Scientist Training Programme, or just going straight into employment as a BMS?

Im not sure to be honest. From what I understood the STP was more for graduates of the sciences to trained for work in the NHS.

The BMS' I work with (following trainee BMS if required) go straight in as a band 5 BMS, then do a specialist portfolio and a masters to progress. There is one clinical scientist where I work who started out as a BMS, then specialised in haem before going on to become a clinical scientist (and even have there own case load of patients), but that might be the exception. It might be best to ask others with more knowledge about the STP.

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