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A-level classics students, do you like Odysseus?

As you can tell from my username, I definitely do. However, my teacher doesn't and most of my classmates despise him. In fact, I recently lost a mock trial I organised defending him (although the judge - our teacher - was biased). What do you think? And why?

Reply 1

I don’t really like him to be honest. I think ‘man of twists and turns’ sums him up pretty accurately, he seems tricksy and just not trustworthy. Also, I don’t like his focus on Kleos, I find it self centred. He also sleeps with Circe and Calypso while expecting Penelope to be a faithful wife which seems to imply double standards based on gender. I know that compared to other heroes of his time he is certainly a better character and that many of the qualities I dislike about him are perhaps due more to the culture in which he lives than his character specifically. Still, I much prefer Virgil’s Aeneas, and the ideal of the selfless Roman hero as opposed to the Greek hero who seek only personal glory.

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by BethanyTess
I don’t really like him to be honest. I think ‘man of twists and turns’ sums him up pretty accurately, he seems tricksy and just not trustworthy. Also, I don’t like his focus on Kleos, I find it self centred. He also sleeps with Circe and Calypso while expecting Penelope to be a faithful wife which seems to imply double standards based on gender. I know that compared to other heroes of his time he is certainly a better character and that many of the qualities I dislike about him are perhaps due more to the culture in which he lives than his character specifically. Still, I much prefer Virgil’s Aeneas, and the ideal of the selfless Roman hero as opposed to the Greek hero who seek only personal glory.


I agree with most of this to be honest, but would u argue his affairs with Circe and calypso were out of survival? Hermes and instructed him not to defy Circe’s wishes and he was also trapped in ogygia. I think he is way worse for the gruesome slaughter of the suitors. He violently hunted them down one by one, telling his own son to torcher them by cutting off their facial features and hang the maids who most likely had no choice but to be with the suitors

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by username7509375
I agree with most of this to be honest, but would u argue his affairs with Circe and calypso were out of survival? Hermes and instructed him not to defy Circe’s wishes and he was also trapped in ogygia. I think he is way worse for the gruesome slaughter of the suitors. He violently hunted them down one by one, telling his own son to torcher them by cutting off their facial features and hang the maids who most likely had no choice but to be with the suitors

Yes, I definitely agree with you that he didn't have much of a choice about either of the goddesses. In fact, based on what he says when calypso says he can leave Ogygia (something along the lines of "I will not trust myself to any raft unless you swear a solemn oath not to harm me") implies that she has already tried to harm him.

However, I agree about the suitors as well. It doesn't sit entirely right with my conscience. Telemachus was really harsh as well in that, or even harsher.

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by BethanyTess
I don’t really like him to be honest. I think ‘man of twists and turns’ sums him up pretty accurately, he seems tricksy and just not trustworthy. Also, I don’t like his focus on Kleos, I find it self centred. He also sleeps with Circe and Calypso while expecting Penelope to be a faithful wife which seems to imply double standards based on gender. I know that compared to other heroes of his time he is certainly a better character and that many of the qualities I dislike about him are perhaps due more to the culture in which he lives than his character specifically. Still, I much prefer Virgil’s Aeneas, and the ideal of the selfless Roman hero as opposed to the Greek hero who seek only personal glory.

This is really interesting because I despise Aeneas but love Odysseus. I think with the whole Calypso and Circe thing Homer makes it VERY clear that Odysseus was not sleeping with them by choice. Also the entire epic focuses on him trying to get home to her, if that doesn't scream devoted husband I don't know what does.

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