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Hi guys! There’s a coffee shop near me that’s hiring full time which I don’t mind as I have nothing to do until September , however it’s 40 hours a week…does that sound reasonable? Bc I was hoping for 30 hours MAX

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Reply 1

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by Arii256
Hi guys! There’s a coffee shop near me that’s hiring full time which I don’t mind as I have nothing to do until September , however it’s 40 hours a week…does that sound reasonable? Bc I was hoping for 30 hours MAX

Unless your able to do the advertised hours they are looking for think to yourself is it worth applying?

Reply 2

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by Arii256
Hi guys! There’s a coffee shop near me that’s hiring full time which I don’t mind as I have nothing to do until September , however it’s 40 hours a week…does that sound reasonable? Bc I was hoping for 30 hours MAX

Is it an independant coffee shop or a chain?

I'm currently working at one right now but a chain, and i can't get anywhere near those hours, i'm on part-time and on a 16 hour contract but now that it's summer i can push to 20-22, but even at our chain the supervisors usually only do 32 hours but they do easily reach 40 hours or more some weeks but yeh the maxish was i believe 32 (i know its 37 for most standard jobs).

Therefore yes its reasonable but for a 'basic' barista (i also assume you've never worked in a coffee shop before so will need training unless you have experience) it is quite excessive that saying i did a lot of hours when i first started.

But yeh if you accept the job 40 hours is reasonable it's just FULL time so be aware, if you dont want that, see if you can negotiate but its usually bad a look if you want less hours, it just depends on how much staff they're hiring.

Reply 3

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by kitkatya789
Is it an independant coffee shop or a chain?
I'm currently working at one right now but a chain, and i can't get anywhere near those hours, i'm on part-time and on a 16 hour contract but now that it's summer i can push to 20-22, but even at our chain the supervisors usually only do 32 hours but they do easily reach 40 hours or more some weeks but yeh the maxish was i believe 32 (i know its 37 for most standard jobs).
Therefore yes its reasonable but for a 'basic' barista (i also assume you've never worked in a coffee shop before so will need training unless you have experience) it is quite excessive that saying i did a lot of hours when i first started.
But yeh if you accept the job 40 hours is reasonable it's just FULL time so be aware, if you dont want that, see if you can negotiate but its usually bad a look if you want less hours, it just depends on how much staff they're hiring.


Its a chain! Theyre opening a new coffee shop where I live and I worked as a barista when I was 16 for like 3 months so i’m not completely clueless but they said they’ll provide training!! Also theyre hiring full time for the position of a normal barista as well as a head barista! I feel like ill jus get rejected if I try to negotiate…do you reckon I should jus wait and see if they start hiring part time?

Reply 4

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by Arii256
Its a chain! Theyre opening a new coffee shop where I live and I worked as a barista when I was 16 for like 3 months so i’m not completely clueless but they said they’ll provide training!! Also theyre hiring full time for the position of a normal barista as well as a head barista! I feel like ill jus get rejected if I try to negotiate…do you reckon I should jus wait and see if they start hiring part time?

You could just try asking the worst they could do is say no

they may have some contracts available or try making some, I remember I was on a 20 hour contract and I was able to reduce it to 6 hours for term time just by asking! 🙂

Reply 5

If it's advertised as full time then 40 hours is the standard, they want 5 x 8 hour shifts. If you aren't willing to do that little point in applying, at best I'd enquire if they will be seeking part time staff as well or if there is any room for flexibility, before applying.

Part of a successful application is understanding what the employer requires, if they say they need someone full time, turning up to interview and saying 'actually I don't want full time' is likely just going to annoy them.

Reply 6

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by Arii256
Its a chain! Theyre opening a new coffee shop where I live and I worked as a barista when I was 16 for like 3 months so i’m not completely clueless but they said they’ll provide training!! Also theyre hiring full time for the position of a normal barista as well as a head barista! I feel like ill jus get rejected if I try to negotiate…do you reckon I should jus wait and see if they start hiring part time?

Hmm honestly it's hard enough getting a 'normal' job these days especially if you're in uni or graduated and I don't know you personally so it's hard to call, as i've known experienced people in hospitality not getting jobs.

I just find it bizarre they aren't also offering part-time hours especially as it's a new coffee shop and a chain unless they've hired. As i was in the same boat last year, and i was struggling to get any job especially because i graduated with physics, I got a job at a brand new coffee shop / chain and they hired a mixed group of people from students to those a bit more local and all at different hour levels. I wanted full time (im glad i didnt get it now lol).

I wouldn't negotiate but i'd just ask about the hours some how, without implying you want less, it's just because everyone they hired at my store and chain they really try to keep us at our contracted hours, as you're not supposed to really go under. You could ask if the hours are amendable and just 'casually' ask how it works, i assume you will be a contracted worker not on a zero hours.

It's risky to wait to see if they start hiring part-time as they may have hired, and even getting 30 hours is hard, i mean doable but you may have to work at like B&M or something lol.

I'd still do the interview personally, and ask about the hours, if they offer you the job you could sneakily ask about the change in hours then and see if they like it but idk.

its tough. i'd take the job though just knowing this economy lol, but i dont know your reasons for not wanting full hours, and i wouldn't want it now purely cuz im lazy and have a grad job lined up in a few months otherwise i'd want more hours.

Reply 7

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by StriderHort
If it's advertised as full time then 40 hours is the standard, they want 5 x 8 hour shifts. If you aren't willing to do that little point in applying, at best I'd enquire if they will be seeking part time staff as well or if there is any room for flexibility, before applying.
Part of a successful application is understanding what the employer requires, if they say they need someone full time, turning up to interview and saying 'actually I don't want full time' is likely just going to annoy them.

This is true, if 40 hours is non-optional for you it's unlikely you will be hired but you can always ask for flexibility before applying or before/after the interview. As its a coffee chain you could just ask it after the interview even though thats not really good practise, i'd like to add though my coffee chain didn't even tell me how many hours until it was the day to sign the contract llol, all i knew is it was part-time i think but thats my fault for not asking, but at the time i needed anything.

Atleast at my chain, 32 hours is 'full-time' and the supervisors go above that, and most of the baristas are well below that, but some are near at 28 etc. I think you should just ask them as they do need flexibilitty and you're just a barista, and tbh coffee shop chains do have a lot of flexibility compared to other roles.

Reply 8

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by kitkatya789
Hmm honestly it's hard enough getting a 'normal' job these days especially if you're in uni or graduated and I don't know you personally so it's hard to call, as i've known experienced people in hospitality not getting jobs.
I just find it bizarre they aren't also offering part-time hours especially as it's a new coffee shop and a chain unless they've hired. As i was in the same boat last year, and i was struggling to get any job especially because i graduated with physics, I got a job at a brand new coffee shop / chain and they hired a mixed group of people from students to those a bit more local and all at different hour levels. I wanted full time (im glad i didnt get it now lol).
I wouldn't negotiate but i'd just ask about the hours some how, without implying you want less, it's just because everyone they hired at my store and chain they really try to keep us at our contracted hours, as you're not supposed to really go under. You could ask if the hours are amendable and just 'casually' ask how it works, i assume you will be a contracted worker not on a zero hours.
It's risky to wait to see if they start hiring part-time as they may have hired, and even getting 30 hours is hard, i mean doable but you may have to work at like B&M or something lol.
I'd still do the interview personally, and ask about the hours, if they offer you the job you could sneakily ask about the change in hours then and see if they like it but idk.
its tough. i'd take the job though just knowing this economy lol, but i dont know your reasons for not wanting full hours, and i wouldn't want it now purely cuz im lazy and have a grad job lined up in a few months otherwise i'd want more hours.

'I just find it bizarre they aren't also offering part-time hours' Really? They almost certainly will want part timers at some point, but you need the core full time staff to base them around. If you rely purely on part timers who often have other mid/long term plans you end up with high turnover and few people who know the job, esp well enough to train others.

As said, by all means contact them before and ask about flexibility, but turning up the interview and trying to to change their requirements, or worse, getting the job then trying to change it will almost definitely annoy them, if I was the interviewer or manager I'd be pretty bluntly telling you that's the contract on offer, take it or leave it, or I'd simply say 'thanks for your time;' and move on the next candidate.

Reply 9

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by kitkatya789
Hmm honestly it's hard enough getting a 'normal' job these days especially if you're in uni or graduated and I don't know you personally so it's hard to call, as i've known experienced people in hospitality not getting jobs.
I just find it bizarre they aren't also offering part-time hours especially as it's a new coffee shop and a chain unless they've hired. As i was in the same boat last year, and i was struggling to get any job especially because i graduated with physics, I got a job at a brand new coffee shop / chain and they hired a mixed group of people from students to those a bit more local and all at different hour levels. I wanted full time (im glad i didnt get it now lol).
I wouldn't negotiate but i'd just ask about the hours some how, without implying you want less, it's just because everyone they hired at my store and chain they really try to keep us at our contracted hours, as you're not supposed to really go under. You could ask if the hours are amendable and just 'casually' ask how it works, i assume you will be a contracted worker not on a zero hours.
It's risky to wait to see if they start hiring part-time as they may have hired, and even getting 30 hours is hard, i mean doable but you may have to work at like B&M or something lol.
I'd still do the interview personally, and ask about the hours, if they offer you the job you could sneakily ask about the change in hours then and see if they like it but idk.
its tough. i'd take the job though just knowing this economy lol, but i dont know your reasons for not wanting full hours, and i wouldn't want it now purely cuz im lazy and have a grad job lined up in a few months otherwise i'd want more hours.


Hey! One of my parents is terminally ill and I wouldn’t say i’m a primary carer but I do help out with taking care of that parent and i’d feel guilty working so much because as bad as it sounds I wouldn’t want the rest of the family to sort of deal with it all whilst them also working…? I’m going uni in September and so although I am desperate for a job it isn’t as serious (I think) because I know that i’ll only really be broke for the next 5 months and after that I have my sfe and tutoring to help me financially. I emailed this coffee shop a few months ago and was told that they were looking for part time staff, and I’d sent my CV but that was before it’d even opened and I’ve not heard back. They started hiring for the position of manager/supervisor first so idk whether they’re just working their way down and will hire part time last?

For the moment being, my financial situation isn’t the worst as i’ve got savings from my previous job, however i’m also a big spender and I feel like for my mental health too I need something to keep me distracted otherwise i’ll go crazy

Reply 10

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by 7889224
You could just try asking the worst they could do is say no
they may have some contracts available or try making some, I remember I was on a 20 hour contract and I was able to reduce it to 6 hours for term time just by asking! 🙂


Im glad to hear that!!! And I’ve previously emailed them and they’d said that they were looking for various different roles including part time but i’ve not seen any part time roles being advertised so i’m not sure whether they’ve already hired them or will hire later on. I don’t want to rush into applying only for them to then not be able to accommodate to my hours as I feel like i’d just waste their time

Reply 11

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by Arii256
Im glad to hear that!!! And I’ve previously emailed them and they’d said that they were looking for various different roles including part time but i’ve not seen any part time roles being advertised so i’m not sure whether they’ve already hired them or will hire later on. I don’t want to rush into applying only for them to then not be able to accommodate to my hours as I feel like i’d just waste their time

Oh thats good news, just email them and let them know you're interested in part-time, honestly i wouldn't wait because no one waits in the job market especially with how it is right now, even 'basic' jobs have lots of applicants and will go fast.

Reply 12

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by StriderHort
'I just find it bizarre they aren't also offering part-time hours' Really? They almost certainly will want part timers at some point, but you need the core full time staff to base them around. If you rely purely on part timers who often have other mid/long term plans you end up with high turnover and few people who know the job, esp well enough to train others.
As said, by all means contact them before and ask about flexibility, but turning up the interview and trying to to change their requirements, or worse, getting the job then trying to change it will almost definitely annoy them, if I was the interviewer or manager I'd be pretty bluntly telling you that's the contract on offer, take it or leave it, or I'd simply say 'thanks for your time;' and move on the next candidate.

Maybe it's just coming across the way I type online, maybe bizarre was too much of a strong choice, however I was hired in a coffee shop for a brand new store exactly like the situation described and now that i've been there for months, I understand how they hired the people they did, therefore I'd find it weird especially as they're a chain (im assuming costa, starbucks, cafe nero etc), not to be hiring part time because they need flexibility of the workers and different types of people.

I do think yes, doing it in the interview is a bad idea, i'm not sure why I typed that it's definately better to do it beforehand, as they should be flexible, but if they don't have any part-time roles and the original poster could still be able to do full time (as you usually only require a 2 week notice), then it's not the worst thing to do and just ask about the hours in the interview, as they will either not offer it to you or you can reject the offer.

I think as i've stressed in previous messages, i know people who are struggling to get jobs and they're perfectly qualified for a job such as a barista with more hospitality experience than me. I myself experienced it for 2-3 months struggling to get employment after graduating from university, I ended up getting lucky with this new store thats why i guess i just wanted to stress the importance of getting the job.

i do agree though doing it in the interview is a bad idea and potentially a waste of the OP's time, but i don't feel for companies if i'm honest as they can hire easily but yeh i get your point. hopefully this makes it clearer and to the OP. if it was me i'd ask beforehand.

Reply 13

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by Arii256
Hey! One of my parents is terminally ill and I wouldn’t say i’m a primary carer but I do help out with taking care of that parent and i’d feel guilty working so much because as bad as it sounds I wouldn’t want the rest of the family to sort of deal with it all whilst them also working…? I’m going uni in September and so although I am desperate for a job it isn’t as serious (I think) because I know that i’ll only really be broke for the next 5 months and after that I have my sfe and tutoring to help me financially. I emailed this coffee shop a few months ago and was told that they were looking for part time staff, and I’d sent my CV but that was before it’d even opened and I’ve not heard back. They started hiring for the position of manager/supervisor first so idk whether they’re just working their way down and will hire part time last?
For the moment being, my financial situation isn’t the worst as i’ve got savings from my previous job, however i’m also a big spender and I feel like for my mental health too I need something to keep me distracted otherwise i’ll go crazy

Oh that's totally understandable, i didn't know your situation which is why I added caveats and asked. I can't fully relate but i don't have parents (lost them at 17 so young like you) and live with my grandparents well just one of them now so I do semi understand the taking care part you have to do, as for terminally ill i'm really sorry to here this :___(

So I totally understand, definately ask the company before then if they can accomodate your hours, as sometimes it's hard to help somedays and i'm under 30 hours.

I'm also the same again, i like to spend and need something to keep me affloat and having a job also helps me from getting into a slump haha, but this is why again, i'm keen for you to get the job ahaha

but yeh i get full time is not optional for you, so yeh just ask them, i do hope you get part time hours, do let us know if you get it, as it's nice to here good stories.

Also well done for getting into university too, my life was turned upside down when i was 17 during a-levels so again how you're managing rn you're doing really great!

** just editing my message to stress to ask them beforehand which i didnt write, and in one of my other messages, i did say to ask in the interview which you shouldnt do as it's a waste of your time, especially as in my case the hours and type of work was unclear.

Reply 14

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by kitkatya789
Maybe it's just coming across the way I type online, maybe bizarre was too much of a strong choice, however I was hired in a coffee shop for a brand new store exactly like the situation described and now that i've been there for months, I understand how they hired the people they did, therefore I'd find it weird especially as they're a chain (im assuming costa, starbucks, cafe nero etc), not to be hiring part time because they need flexibility of the workers and different types of people.
I do think yes, doing it in the interview is a bad idea, i'm not sure why I typed that it's definately better to do it beforehand, as they should be flexible, but if they don't have any part-time roles and the original poster could still be able to do full time (as you usually only require a 2 week notice), then it's not the worst thing to do and just ask about the hours in the interview, as they will either not offer it to you or you can reject the offer.
I think as i've stressed in previous messages, i know people who are struggling to get jobs and they're perfectly qualified for a job such as a barista with more hospitality experience than me. I myself experienced it for 2-3 months struggling to get employment after graduating from university, I ended up getting lucky with this new store thats why i guess i just wanted to stress the importance of getting the job.
i do agree though doing it in the interview is a bad idea and potentially a waste of the OP's time, but i don't feel for companies if i'm honest as they can hire easily but yeh i get your point. hopefully this makes it clearer and to the OP. if it was me i'd ask beforehand.

I get you, but well, you should feel for the employers, as they're the ones both offering work and telling you what they need. If I decide my business needs a full time staff member to cover 9-5 then that's what I want, I have 0 interest in potential employees telling me what I need and trying to change it. Failure to understand or respect what an employer requires is an immediate red flag, it shows you likely can't follow instructions or policy.

Like if you advertised for someone to come and redecorate your house - walls & ceilings, and you've made time for a quote etc, they came out, looked about and said 'No probs, I'll do all the walls but I don't do ceilings' You'd be pretty annoyed at your time being wasted no? If you weren't willing to do the specific job that was asked, why apply? why assume you can cherry pick the parts of the job to suit you?

My work hires both full time and part time, but when they advertise for full time staff they mean just that, when there is a vacancy for part time they will say so.

Again by all means contact them about part time, but if they've advertised a specific role for a full time staff member that's their requirement, you're shooting yourself in the foot trying to change it.
Original post
by Arii256
Hi guys! There’s a coffee shop near me that’s hiring full time which I don’t mind as I have nothing to do until September , however it’s 40 hours a week…does that sound reasonable? Bc I was hoping for 30 hours MAX

If it is a new coffee shop like you said on your other post, then it may be worth enquiring if they will also be part time roles available. Quite a few places have both full and part time staff.
Otherwise, you can apply, but i dont think you would get very far by wanting the advertised hours reduced by that much.

Reply 16

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by StriderHort
I get you, but well, you should feel for the employers, as they're the ones both offering work and telling you what they need. If I decide my business needs a full time staff member to cover 9-5 then that's what I want, I have 0 interest in potential employees telling me what I need and trying to change it. Failure to understand or respect what an employer requires is an immediate red flag, it shows you likely can't follow instructions or policy.
Like if you advertised for someone to come and redecorate your house - walls & ceilings, and you've made time for a quote etc, they came out, looked about and said 'No probs, I'll do all the walls but I don't do ceilings' You'd be pretty annoyed at your time being wasted no? If you weren't willing to do the specific job that was asked, why apply? why assume you can cherry pick the parts of the job to suit you?
My work hires both full time and part time, but when they advertise for full time staff they mean just that, when there is a vacancy for part time they will say so.
Again by all means contact them about part time, but if they've advertised a specific role for a full time staff member that's their requirement, you're shooting yourself in the foot trying to change it.


This is all a tad bit dramatic but cheers anyways

Reply 17

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by kitkatya789
Oh that's totally understandable, i didn't know your situation which is why I added caveats and asked. I can't fully relate but i don't have parents (lost them at 17 so young like you) and live with my grandparents well just one of them now so I do semi understand the taking care part you have to do, as for terminally ill i'm really sorry to here this :___(
So I totally understand, definately ask the company before then if they can accomodate your hours, as sometimes it's hard to help somedays and i'm under 30 hours.
I'm also the same again, i like to spend and need something to keep me affloat and having a job also helps me from getting into a slump haha, but this is why again, i'm keen for you to get the job ahaha
but yeh i get full time is not optional for you, so yeh just ask them, i do hope you get part time hours, do let us know if you get it, as it's nice to here good stories.
Also well done for getting into university too, my life was turned upside down when i was 17 during a-levels so again how you're managing rn you're doing really great!
** just editing my message to stress to ask them beforehand which i didnt write, and in one of my other messages, i did say to ask in the interview which you shouldnt do as it's a waste of your time, especially as in my case the hours and type of work was unclear.


This is so sweet! Best of luck to you! And I’ll definitely let you know what I end up doing. Thank you so much for the kind words and advice

Reply 18

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by StriderHort
I get you, but well, you should feel for the employers, as they're the ones both offering work and telling you what they need. If I decide my business needs a full time staff member to cover 9-5 then that's what I want, I have 0 interest in potential employees telling me what I need and trying to change it. Failure to understand or respect what an employer requires is an immediate red flag, it shows you likely can't follow instructions or policy.
Like if you advertised for someone to come and redecorate your house - walls & ceilings, and you've made time for a quote etc, they came out, looked about and said 'No probs, I'll do all the walls but I don't do ceilings' You'd be pretty annoyed at your time being wasted no? If you weren't willing to do the specific job that was asked, why apply? why assume you can cherry pick the parts of the job to suit you?
My work hires both full time and part time, but when they advertise for full time staff they mean just that, when there is a vacancy for part time they will say so.
Again by all means contact them about part time, but if they've advertised a specific role for a full time staff member that's their requirement, you're shooting yourself in the foot trying to change it.

I don't think my message was this 'deep' tbh, I was just highlighting the fact that, (yes my choice of words using bizzarre was a bit strong) I know many people struggling to get 'basic' (don't mean this in a disrespectful way) roles despite having experience so was just keen for the OP to get the job.

Secondly, i'm always going to be on the side of employee's rather than employers lol especially when we've established this is chain/large company obviously if it's a small company, small business or advertised work it's a little well completely different. I did also imply in my original message to ask first, plus I was in the same situation as the OP, i probably have a bit more knowledge on how a chain coffee shop runs and hires + we're all easily replaceable.

Anyway this too much xD, but we agree the OP should ask them before and asap so they don't miss out. I've done a tone of graduate job interviews, ac's etc like 100s so i've been through all aspects of the recruitment proces which is probably why i told the OP just to do the interview obviously it's not the same but you've got to do whats best for you not the company.
(edited 8 months ago)
40 hours a week is pretty normal to be honest for a full time job.

I used to work 9-5:30pm (1 hour for lunch break) Monday to Friday every week, plus 9am-1pm every fourth Saturday... so in answer to your question "does it sound reasonable"... yes, yes it does.

Does it sound reasonable for you is another question entirely. You say you have some homelife responsibilities as your parent is ill, so okay fair enough you want less hours, but they're not advertising a position with less hours, they're advertising a perfectly normal 40 hour full time position. Ultimately you can either apply for it and accept the hours, or look elsewhere.

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