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Hi, I am in the process of studying film in the UK and I am looking for some advice on which of the following uni's I should make a final decision for (I have already been accepted into these universities):
1. University of Westminster for BA Film
2. UAL for BA in film practice
3. London Film Academy
I have a decent background after studying film for a few years prior. I like practical work and I'm looking for a uni that has good connections and access to industry equipment.
Thanks so much!

Reply 1

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by _shaynav_
Hi, I am in the process of studying film in the UK and I am looking for some advice on which of the following uni's I should make a final decision for (I have already been accepted into these universities):
1. University of Westminster for BA Film
2. UAL for BA in film practice
3. London Film Academy
I have a decent background after studying film for a few years prior. I like practical work and I'm looking for a uni that has good connections and access to industry equipment.
Thanks so much!

I graduated from a similar Film Production course (in terms of respectability) in 2023 and I have only just found a part time retail job after spending almost two years unemployed beforehand. I think going to university to undertake a Film degree is basically useless, and I enjoyed my course (somewhat) and gained a First Class Degree.

Personally London Film Academy would be your best option, presuming you could afford the tuition fees of course.

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by Thisismyunitsr
I graduated from a similar Film Production course (in terms of respectability) in 2023 and I have only just found a part time retail job after spending almost two years unemployed beforehand. I think going to university to undertake a Film degree is basically useless, and I enjoyed my course (somewhat) and gained a First Class Degree.
Personally London Film Academy would be your best option, presuming you could afford the tuition fees of course.

Ah okay I see. I am an international student so being able to continue working in the UK is something I want to do. If you don't mind me asking, which course at what uni did you do? Did your uni help you look for job prospects and networking at all? My only reservation about LFA is it being not as big as the other unis, so securing a job may be difficult if the network is not as known. If I were to go to LFA it would be the 2 year BA Course. Thanks so much for your reply!

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by _shaynav_
Ah okay I see. I am an international student so being able to continue working in the UK is something I want to do. If you don't mind me asking, which course at what uni did you do? Did your uni help you look for job prospects and networking at all? My only reservation about LFA is it being not as big as the other unis, so securing a job may be difficult if the network is not as known. If I were to go to LFA it would be the 2 year BA Course. Thanks so much for your reply!

Do you understand how difficult it is to keep working in the UK after you graduate?

You have to get onto a skilled worker visa after your post graduate visa (A 2 year visa that allows graduates to work any role in the UK) which means that you need to become sponsored by a company or organisation who has to prove that there are no British people who can do your role. Given how oversaturated the creative industries are this is a very difficult task. Oh, and you also need to be earning more than £38,000 (with some exceptions). This is a very large amount of money to earn as a graduate especially in the creative industries.

Due to the rise of anti immigrant sentiment in the UK and the accompanying increase in populism, staying that you want to do your degree to attempt to stay in the UK is a very unlikely prospect. It wouldn't surprise me if the post graduate visa didn't exist by the time you finished your course.

I did Film Production at the Arts University Bournemouth. They didn't help massively to help me to do networking or assist my job prospects, admittedly I went to university during 2020 which was in the middle of the COVID pandemic so that probably didn't help. :rolleyes: I expect it is a lot better now.

LFA won't be as big but it will have a more successful cohort of graduates rather than other universities (I expect) as the course will be smaller and more rigorous with it's admission criteria. The course only being two years rather than 3 might be better as you won't have to pay another year of tuition fees/living costs. That would be another benefit.

Good luck with whatever you end up doing!
Original post
by _shaynav_
Hi, I am in the process of studying film in the UK and I am looking for some advice on which of the following uni's I should make a final decision for (I have already been accepted into these universities):
1. University of Westminster for BA Film
2. UAL for BA in film practice
3. London Film Academy
I have a decent background after studying film for a few years prior. I like practical work and I'm looking for a uni that has good connections and access to industry equipment.
Thanks so much!


LFA hasn’t been offering undergraduate film courses for long. They’re really better for postgraduate degrees not undergraduate.
Of your options Westminster is the most established for undergraduate film courses.

For film smaller and shorter courses aren’t necessarily a beneficial thing. It will limit your choices of projects to work on if the class size is small and if the course is short then that will limit the number of projects that you can work on and massively reduce your time to gain experience on film sets during holidays and alongside your studies (because you won’t have holidays).

For film careers your portfolio of work and your breadth of experience is what’s going to help you get a foothold in the industry.

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by PQ
LFA hasn’t been offering undergraduate film courses for long. They’re really better for postgraduate degrees not undergraduate.
Of your options Westminster is the most established for undergraduate film courses.
For film smaller and shorter courses aren’t necessarily a beneficial thing. It will limit your choices of projects to work on if the class size is small and if the course is short then that will limit the number of projects that you can work on and massively reduce your time to gain experience on film sets during holidays and alongside your studies (because you won’t have holidays).
For film careers your portfolio of work and your breadth of experience is what’s going to help you get a foothold in the industry.

Makes sense... At the moment my family is leaning towards Westminster over the other two as UAL's infrastructure also seems very similar to Westminster but UAL is also almost double the price 😅. If you have any other advice before I make my decision that would be greatly appreciated!
Thank you!

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by _shaynav_
Makes sense... At the moment my family is leaning towards Westminster over the other two as UAL's infrastructure also seems very similar to Westminster but UAL is also almost double the price 😅. If you have any other advice before I make my decision that would be greatly appreciated!
Thank you!

Just wanted to mention that given the new immigration rules the chances of you studying and then staying in the UK after you graduate is basically zero.

Something to contemplate before you make your final decision.
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by Thisismyunitsr
Just wanted to mention that given the new immigration rules the chances of you studying and then staying in the UK after you graduate is basically zero.

Something to contemplate before you make your final decision.


If you're talking about the white paper then that is just a white paper and not legislation yet
And the white paper still leaves Graduate Route visas available for 18 months post degree so hardly zero

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by PQ
If you're talking about the white paper then that is just a white paper and not legislation yet
And the white paper still leaves Graduate Route visas available for 18 months post degree so hardly zero

Yes this is what I thought... My student route visa gives me time to look for employment after university. I also plan to apply for the placement year which I have available if I go to Westminster and are able to get one, would definitely improve my odds (even slightly so), especially if I do good work there. They would also increase my visa stay to accommodate this. I'm confident in my skills so I'm going in optimistic. I have family in London as well who could support me while looking for employment as well as my family back home.

About studying elsewhere, I was going to apply to the US (given its huge film industry as well) but course fees were insane. There were no merit scholarship programs for the film courses I wanted to apply to which could reduce the load unlike in the UK since my academic work is strong (I can't apply for aid since I can technically afford the uni's, but I don't want to put my family under that much). I don't have much family near the places I wanted to apply to which I would have wanted to go to the London. I also didn't generally feel safe moving to places like New York and LA, far away from my family (I've been there and I don't really imagine myself being comfortable). The visa's in the US for arts courses give even more of a limited time which includes potential internships during the school year, so in that aspect it I'm worse off. Applying to other places in Europe and Asia, language was more of a problem since I can only speak english and a bit of my native language.

Hope this sheds some light into my situation! Again thanks for your insights.

Reply 9

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by PQ
If you're talking about the white paper then that is just a white paper and not legislation yet
And the white paper still leaves Graduate Route visas available for 18 months post degree so hardly zero

Just because you are on the graduate visa does not mean you will be eligible for a skilled worker visa when you graduate . I have friends in this situation and they all say it is borderline impossible to stay in the UK after your graduate visa expires unless you go into a very niche and highly paid industry, spoiler alert, this is not any role related to the Film Industry.

OP will most likely finish their degree, receive their graduate visa and have to leave. I can appreciate that the proposal is a white paper but it looks more and more likely to become law and take place.

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by Thisismyunitsr
Just because you are on the graduate visa does not mean you will be eligible for a skilled worker visa when you graduate . I have friends in this situation and they all say it is borderline impossible to stay in the UK after your graduate visa expires unless you go into a very niche and highly paid industry, spoiler alert, this is not any role related to the Film Industry.
OP will most likely finish their degree, receive their graduate visa and have to leave. I can appreciate that the proposal is a white paper but it looks more and more likely to become law and take place.

Yes the idea is to find employment in the time given with the student visa. I realise the risk, I have siblings studying there. Also who knows if I would like to move elsewhere or maybe pursue a masters, which would definitely impact my stay. In this case I think the benefits outweigh the costs like I mentioned above, so like I said it is the best option I have at the moment. Once I apply for the visa in the next few weeks, I don't believe it is subject to change (specifically the time I have after graduating to look for employment). The risk is present in every industry, (agreed that film is of higher risk), but I'm not willing to give up studying there because of a potential outcome. By going in pessimistic and assuming I will not find employment will not do me any good. I've chosen to work in an industry that is incredibly risky so I will have to take some risks to make it happen.
Original post
by Thisismyunitsr
Just because you are on the graduate visa does not mean you will be eligible for a skilled worker visa when you graduate . I have friends in this situation and they all say it is borderline impossible to stay in the UK after your graduate visa expires unless you go into a very niche and highly paid industry, spoiler alert, this is not any role related to the Film Industry.

OP will most likely finish their degree, receive their graduate visa and have to leave. I can appreciate that the proposal is a white paper but it looks more and more likely to become law and take place.

A white paper is specifically written for discussion. It hasn’t even started the process of becoming law.
The contents of any eventual legislation are likely to be very different.

It’s misleading and cruel to advise potential students as if the content of a white paper will become law in its current state.

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by _shaynav_
Yes the idea is to find employment in the time given with the student visa. I realise the risk, I have siblings studying there. Also who knows if I would like to move elsewhere or maybe pursue a masters, which would definitely impact my stay. In this case I think the benefits outweigh the costs like I mentioned above, so like I said it is the best option I have at the moment. Once I apply for the visa in the next few weeks, I don't believe it is subject to change (specifically the time I have after graduating to look for employment). The risk is present in every industry, (agreed that film is of higher risk), but I'm not willing to give up studying there because of a potential outcome. By going in pessimistic and assuming I will not find employment will not do me any good. I've chosen to work in an industry that is incredibly risky so I will have to take some risks to make it happen.

I agree about taking the risks but taking those risks has the possibility of a lifetime of screw up should the risks not succeed, and most of them don't. Personally I think the best option would be to either not attend higher education at all or choose another country where tuition fees are lower and the options for staying within the country are more plentiful.

Reply 13

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by PQ
A white paper is specifically written for discussion. It hasn’t even started the process of becoming law.
The contents of any eventual legislation are likely to be very different.
It’s misleading and cruel to advise potential students as if the content of a white paper will become law in its current state.

It's not misleading or cruel, just realistic. My partner is currently on a postgraduate visa having previously studied film and she has had to completely shift industry to find a job that might sponsor her. It still is not guaranteed. This is especially the case when studying in a competitive industry like film or the creative industries.

Subjecting OPs future to the possibility of this might happen is equally cruel and unrealistic as well.
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