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Applying for Oxford chemistry

I am in Year 13, studying a level biology, chemistry, maths. is 3 A* in those subjects enough, or am I at a disadvantage without further maths or physics? I applied last year for Natsci at cam but got rejected post interview coz my esat was so bad lol, considering taking a gap year and reapplying, or reapplying while i'm at uni. I'm realised i'm now more interested in the physical side of chem rather than the biochem side of it, and ive got a natsci offer at UCL rn. Should I reapply to oxford for chem or natsci at cam again?

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by Anonymous
I am in Year 13, studying a level biology, chemistry, maths. is 3 A* in those subjects enough, or am I at a disadvantage without further maths or physics? I applied last year for Natsci at cam but got rejected post interview coz my esat was so bad lol, considering taking a gap year and reapplying, or reapplying while i'm at uni. I'm realised i'm now more interested in the physical side of chem rather than the biochem side of it, and ive got a natsci offer at UCL rn. Should I reapply to oxford for chem or natsci at cam again?

Oxford don't consider applicants currently studying at other unis as I recall. Cambridge only consider such applicants with "strong support of the university", which since you'd have been there for max 2 weeks by the time you apply, you won't have that.

If you want to reapply to Oxbridge you need to do so in a gap year. You could always take FM in a gap year if you wished (particularly if you're interested in physical chemistry this is probably useful background regardless).

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by Anonymous
I am in Year 13, studying a level biology, chemistry, maths. is 3 A* in those subjects enough, or am I at a disadvantage without further maths or physics? I applied last year for Natsci at cam but got rejected post interview coz my esat was so bad lol, considering taking a gap year and reapplying, or reapplying while i'm at uni. I'm realised i'm now more interested in the physical side of chem rather than the biochem side of it, and ive got a natsci offer at UCL rn. Should I reapply to oxford for chem or natsci at cam again?
There is a whole paper devoted to "A-Level Further Maths" content in the Prelims exams.

@Typical Nerd is a current second year undergraduate student studying Chemistry at St. John's College, Oxford. So, message him and he will respond soon. 🙂

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by Anonymous
I am in Year 13, studying a level biology, chemistry, maths. is 3 A* in those subjects enough, or am I at a disadvantage without further maths or physics? I applied last year for Natsci at cam but got rejected post interview coz my esat was so bad lol, considering taking a gap year and reapplying, or reapplying while i'm at uni. I'm realised i'm now more interested in the physical side of chem rather than the biochem side of it, and ive got a natsci offer at UCL rn. Should I reapply to oxford for chem or natsci at cam again?

You can’t reapply whilst you are at another university - you will have to take a gap year.

If you get A*A*A or 3A*, then really and truly, you shouldn’t need to take extra A levels in your gap year (at least in theory), but if it would quell any lingering doubts and keep you from getting out of practice with studying etc over your gap year, then it might be an idea to take either physics or FM.

If you do decide to take either physics or FM as an extra A level but not both, I’d honestly say FM is more advantageous than physics overall, since you use FM more often than physics in your first year.

In terms of whether to accept your UCL offer or not, I have no idea. Have you been on an open day and categorically decided that it’s not for you or that NatSci isn’t something that you’d really want to do (and not because your plans for a reapplication to Cambridge or Oxford are purely driven by league tables/prestige etc)?

When I myself had to pick between Oxford Chem and Cambridge NatSci, I decided Cambridge NatSci would give me a watered-down understanding of chemistry (the subject I actually wanted to study) just so that much of the first two years could be spent on studying stuff that didn’t even remotely interest me (hence I’d suggest looking over what each of the modules actually consist of to see if they are worth the bother). Hence, Oxford Chem was an infinitely better choice.

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In response to your question, I would say my reapplication is driven by the latter, I feel like oxford is so much of a better uni in terms of prestige, career opportunities, types of people you meet, societies and overall fun as I also wouldn't have to live at home. I'm happy studying either course however, as chemistry and maths (the modules I would choose at UCL) do interest me. Secondly, I feel like my application to cambridge was slightly rushed and misguided, and I made lots of mistakes in my application (e.g how to prepare for interview, admissions assessment etc ), and would like a second shot at the best uni in the world, seeing as I think I do have what it takes to get in. Idk tho!

Also, I have heard of people who have reapplied to oxford while at another uni (imperial) and got in, as I guess the application is made before you actually start- but it is a bit unorthodox

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I was wondering if anyone had some advice for applying to Oxford for chemistry in terms of writing my personal statement and things I could look into for my supracurricular exploration

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by ganime_15
I was wondering if anyone had some advice for applying to Oxford for chemistry in terms of writing my personal statement and things I could look into for my supracurricular exploration
Ask @TypicalNerd who is at St. John's College, Oxford. 🙂

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by ganime_15
I was wondering if anyone had some advice for applying to Oxford for chemistry in terms of writing my personal statement and things I could look into for my supracurricular exploration

If memory serves, I have already replied to a post of yours on the main Oxford applicants thread and pointed you in the direction of some earlier advice I had.

It’s a bit late to do C3L6 or the UKChO now, but there are always plenty of good books you can find on each field of chemistry (though I’d maybe stick to just one or two books) and it’s well worth focusing on the areas that interest you most.

That said, is it inorganic chemistry, organic chemistry or physical chemistry that interests you most? And which exam board are you with for A level chemistry as I might be able to think of things for you to challenge and explore in more depth.

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by TypicalNerd
If memory serves, I have already replied to a post of yours on the main Oxford applicants thread and pointed you in the direction of some earlier advice I had.
It’s a bit late to do C3L6 or the UKChO now, but there are always plenty of good books you can find on each field of chemistry (though I’d maybe stick to just one or two books) and it’s well worth focusing on the areas that interest you most.
That said, is it inorganic chemistry, organic chemistry or physical chemistry that interests you most? And which exam board are you with for A level chemistry as I might be able to think of things for you to challenge and explore in more depth.


I am most interested in organic chemistry. Are there any topics you would recommend me exploring? I am also quite interested in materials as well as I have just made a poster on the chemistry behind screen film radiography and how the scintillating material works with the emulsion to form the latent image

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I am also interested in bioorthogonal chemistry but I couldn’t seem to understand the actual chemistry past a certain point in the lecture that I was listening to

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I am also thinking of an EPQ on why life on earth is carbon based and not silicon. Do you think that’s a good topic or have you got others that I could consider?
I had a look at the organic chemistry book by Clayden about the chemistry behind antiretroviral drugs
Are there any other books that you would recommend me reading?

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by ganime_15
I am also interested in bioorthogonal chemistry but I couldn’t seem to understand the actual chemistry past a certain point in the lecture that I was listening to

Then this isn’t something to bother putting in your PS. Focus on the aspects of organic chemistry and materials chemistry you are most interested in

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by ganime_15
I am also thinking of an EPQ on why life on earth is carbon based and not silicon. Do you think that’s a good topic or have you got others that I could consider?
I had a look at the organic chemistry book by Clayden about the chemistry behind antiretroviral drugs
Are there any other books that you would recommend me reading?

If you can find a cheap copy of it, Sykes’ Guidebook to mechanism in Organic Chemistry is well worth a read. You might want to consider some of the Oxford chemistry primers as well.

You only need one or two books to refer to in your PS - it’s not an exercise in listing things you’ve done.

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by ganime_15
I am also thinking of an EPQ on why life on earth is carbon based and not silicon. Do you think that’s a good topic or have you got others that I could consider?
I had a look at the organic chemistry book by Clayden about the chemistry behind antiretroviral drugs
Are there any other books that you would recommend me reading?

It’s definitely an interesting topic and I’m sure it’s been done before, meaning you will have all the research available to you to cross-reference. You can look into others if you’d like, this is probably one of best options if you want to see how the three fundamental fields of chemistry overlap.

I’d personally not bother with an EPQ as it isn’t required by Oxford and certainly won’t reduce your offer conditions like at some other universities.

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by ganime_15
I am most interested in organic chemistry. Are there any topics you would recommend me exploring? I am also quite interested in materials as well as I have just made a poster on the chemistry behind screen film radiography and how the scintillating material works with the emulsion to form the latent image

I’d personally say find a way of challenging something you’ve learned so far. Instead of simply accepting what you’ve learned so far as fact, question at least some aspect of it and make an attempt to answer your own question with the books you read and supercurriculars you use.

On the main Oxford thread, I suggested to another user they might want to ask themselves how one knows the mechanisms so far are valid and what evidence is used to support them. I also suggested that certain aspects of A level are just plain wrong - for example, some A level exam boards state that nucleophilic substitution isn’t possible on tertiary haloalkanes and that halogenated arenes cannot undergo nucleophilic substitution. Why are these statements wrong and are the nucleophilic substitution mechanisms followed by these substrates the same as those you’ve encountered at A level?

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by TypicalNerd
I’d personally say find a way of challenging something you’ve learned so far. Instead of simply accepting what you’ve learned so far as fact, question at least some aspect of it and make an attempt to answer your own question with the books you read and supercurriculars you use.
On the main Oxford thread, I suggested to another user they might want to ask themselves how one knows the mechanisms so far are valid and what evidence is used to support them. I also suggested that certain aspects of A level are just plain wrong - for example, some A level exam boards state that nucleophilic substitution isn’t possible on tertiary haloalkanes and that halogenated arenes cannot undergo nucleophilic substitution. Why are these statements wrong and are the nucleophilic substitution mechanisms followed by these substrates the same as those you’ve encountered at A level?

I see that you're now at Oxford studying chemistry - i.e. you met your offer. I'm very pleased :smile:

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by TypicalNerd
I’d personally say find a way of challenging something you’ve learned so far. Instead of simply accepting what you’ve learned so far as fact, question at least some aspect of it and make an attempt to answer your own question with the books you read and supercurriculars you use.
On the main Oxford thread, I suggested to another user they might want to ask themselves how one knows the mechanisms so far are valid and what evidence is used to support them. I also suggested that certain aspects of A level are just plain wrong - for example, some A level exam boards state that nucleophilic substitution isn’t possible on tertiary haloalkanes and that halogenated arenes cannot undergo nucleophilic substitution. Why are these statements wrong and are the nucleophilic substitution mechanisms followed by these substrates the same as those you’ve encountered at A level?


Thank you very much for the help. I was slightly worried about this last minute decision to do chemistry.

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by Reality Check
I see that you're now at Oxford studying chemistry - i.e. you met your offer. I'm very pleased :smile:

Thank you for the kind words. It’s nice to see you return to TSR.

Meeting the offer wasn’t so much of a problem as I applied on a gap year having already achieved the grades. The real challenge was getting the offer in the first place.

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by ganime_15
Thank you very much for the help. I was slightly worried about this last minute decision to do chemistry.

No problem. I hope that the advice so far proves to be helpful.

If you have any further questions, by all means ask away.

On another note, have you started looking into what college you would like to apply to?
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by TypicalNerd
No problem. I hope that the advice so far proves to be helpful.
If you have any further questions, by all means ask away.
On another note, have you started looking into what college you would like to apply to?


Besides Oxford where else did you apply for chemistry because i was thinking about applying to Imperial, Bristol, York/Durham but i don’t know what to put as my safety university.

I am currently going to draw up a plan on topics i want to research this summer so that it’s more focused and not just a list as you said.

After going to the open day, I have short listed it to St Johns, Keble and Magdalen. I really enjoy sports and going on walks, which is why i ended up choosing these colleges.

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