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Further mechanics 2 options overlapping with physics rather than stats?

Hey I’m in year 12 doing prediction summer exams in a week and I absolutely suck at stats and I just realised for further maths a level, only core pure 1 and 2 are compulsory, and you can do any of the other combinations. I want to study physics in uni and I currently also do A level physics. My school currently offer the most standard Core pure 1+2 and further mechanics1 and further stats1 and an option to do decision1 as well.

Does anyone know how much does further mechanics 2 overlap with physics? For example circular motion and simple harmonic motion appears both sides. And how much work would it be self studying for further mechanics 2? (and I’m going to be slacking off in stats classes at school if that’s the case)

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by sillysillycatcat
Hey I’m in year 12 doing prediction summer exams in a week and I absolutely suck at stats and I just realised for further maths a level, only core pure 1 and 2 are compulsory, and you can do any of the other combinations. I want to study physics in uni and I currently also do A level physics. My school currently offer the most standard Core pure 1+2 and further mechanics1 and further stats1 and an option to do decision1 as well.
Does anyone know how much does further mechanics 2 overlap with physics? For example circular motion and simple harmonic motion appears both sides. And how much work would it be self studying for further mechanics 2? (and I’m going to be slacking off in stats classes at school if that’s the case)


I do edexcel btw

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by sillysillycatcat
Hey I’m in year 12 doing prediction summer exams in a week and I absolutely suck at stats and I just realised for further maths a level, only core pure 1 and 2 are compulsory, and you can do any of the other combinations. I want to study physics in uni and I currently also do A level physics. My school currently offer the most standard Core pure 1+2 and further mechanics1 and further stats1 and an option to do decision1 as well.
Does anyone know how much does further mechanics 2 overlap with physics? For example circular motion and simple harmonic motion appears both sides. And how much work would it be self studying for further mechanics 2? (and I’m going to be slacking off in stats classes at school if that’s the case)

Sure, there is a reasonable amount of overlap on the concepts, but the approach is a bit different so physics will be pre calculus (gcse maths) whereas further maths is somewhat calculus based. Obviously they can reinforce each other and if you understand one well (the well part is important), then thats half the battle with the other.

Whether that merits self teaching mechanics (obv there is a fair amount of stuff online) is debatable and generally there is some stats in physics degree, so youll be delaying it rather than avoiding it. Obv though, a physics degree wont assume youve taken a particular futher maths module (so either mech or stats) and will cover the necessarily material.
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by mqb2766
Sure, there is a reasonable amount of overlap on the concepts, but the approach is a bit different so physics will be pre calculus (gcse maths) whereas further maths is calculus based. Obviously they can reinforce each other and if you understand one well (the well part is important), then thats half the battle with the other.
Whether that merits self teaching mechanics (obv there is a fair amount of stuff online) is debatable and there is generally a reasonable amount of stats in physics, so youll be delaying it rather than avoiding it. Obv though, a physics degree wont assume youve taken a particular futher maths module (so either mech or stats) and will cover the necessarily material.

Thanks for your response. I do get your point on this that physics also contain a reasonable amount of stats. What do you think about sitting further mechanics 1 and 2, further stats 1 and core pure 1 and 2 (and maybe decision if that goes well at school) and since they consider the 2 that you do best in. Would that be beneficial or is that way too much work? (I mean I'm also preparing for physics olympiads and uni entrance tests too)

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by sillysillycatcat
Thanks for your response. I do get your point on this that physics also contain a reasonable amount of stats. What do you think about sitting further mechanics 1 and 2, further stats 1 and core pure 1 and 2 (and maybe decision if that goes well at school) and since they consider the 2 that you do best in. Would that be beneficial or is that way too much work? (I mean I'm also preparing for physics olympiads and uni entrance tests too)

Youve not said, but I guess its something like esat/pat which will require a fair bit of work, so Id honestly just do the two modules which are the easiest to do well in. So theyre of interest to you, teaching is convenient, get feedback ... I cant see its sensible to increase your load by an extra module (or two?) just in case you could scrape a few extra marks. The danger is that you spread yourself too thinly.

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by sillysillycatcat
Thanks for your response. I do get your point on this that physics also contain a reasonable amount of stats. What do you think about sitting further mechanics 1 and 2, further stats 1 and core pure 1 and 2 (and maybe decision if that goes well at school) and since they consider the 2 that you do best in. Would that be beneficial or is that way too much work? (I mean I'm also preparing for physics olympiads and uni entrance tests too)

Have you looked at the resources on Dr Frost? They are detailed:

https://www.drfrost.org/explorer.php?coid=12817

Why doesn't your school offer a free choice of FM modules? What support will they offer for self-study?

[I tach Edexcel FM in a state school and we allow free choice]

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