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I have a proposal for a new GCSE grading system

Let me explain,

I feel that the numbers used by exam boards breed an environment of self-entitement and a general "holier-than-thou" attitude. As someone who is sitting happily on a grade average of 6, people who have grades above me usually carry an air of superiority when talking to me because they have a bigger number on paper than me.

I suggested to my friends that they implement a "PASS/FAIL" grade only, moving the pass grade up slightly higher to a grade 5 equivalent and taking away any differentiation between candidates. I argue that this breeds a more encouraging environment around grades that convinces people to pass and pass only. This means people find out only what matters- whether they passed or not, meaning the 'snobs"have no ground to be mean to me- or others with lower grades- when discussing results.


I feel this would alleviate a common problem with GCSE-related egos and I'd love to hear people's opinions!

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Reply 1

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by LDWinter
Let me explain,
I feel that the numbers used by exam boards breed an environment of self-entitement and a general "holier-than-thou" attitude. As someone who is sitting happily on a grade average of 6, people who have grades above me usually carry an air of superiority when talking to me because they have a bigger number on paper than me.
I suggested to my friends that they implement a "PASS/FAIL" grade only, moving the pass grade up slightly higher to a grade 5 equivalent and taking away any differentiation between candidates. I argue that this breeds a more encouraging environment around grades that convinces people to pass and pass only. This means people find out only what matters- whether they passed or not, meaning the 'snobs"have no ground to be mean to me- or others with lower grades- when discussing results.
I feel this would alleviate a common problem with GCSE-related egos and I'd love to hear people's opinions!


Surely you realise that the entire purpose of the numbers is to differentiate between deserving, desireable students and those who struggle.

Reply 2

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by LDWinter
Let me explain,
I feel that the numbers used by exam boards breed an environment of self-entitement and a general "holier-than-thou" attitude. As someone who is sitting happily on a grade average of 6, people who have grades above me usually carry an air of superiority when talking to me because they have a bigger number on paper than me.
I suggested to my friends that they implement a "PASS/FAIL" grade only, moving the pass grade up slightly higher to a grade 5 equivalent and taking away any differentiation between candidates. I argue that this breeds a more encouraging environment around grades that convinces people to pass and pass only. This means people find out only what matters- whether they passed or not, meaning the 'snobs"have no ground to be mean to me- or others with lower grades- when discussing results.
I feel this would alleviate a common problem with GCSE-related egos and I'd love to hear people's opinions!

I agree somewhat with your point but I think Pass/fail could be replaced with Brick/Bad brick

Reply 3

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by Brick_lover2
I agree somewhat with your point but I think Pass/fail could be replaced with Brick/Bad brick


Valid NGL, people may like the change of terminology

Reply 4

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by Brick_lover2
I agree somewhat with your point but I think Pass/fail could be replaced with Brick/Bad brick
Solid brick of chalk, right?

Reply 5

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by LDWinter
Valid NGL, people may like the change of terminology
The term "brick" implies solidity and achievement, while "bad brick" suggests a lesson learned. This framing can motivate students to strive for improvement rather than fear failure.

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by Chalk_snorter
Solid brick of chalk, right?

yeah don't worry 100 percent asbestos/ chalk brick.

Reply 7

orr the Pass/Fail thing could be used for school reports and stuff, like stuff that students have access to see. There would still be a numbers/grades system which could be used for more serious stuff like school/university applications, but it would only be accessible by the teacher/exam board/school/ and (maybe parents?), and no student can access it, which means no comparing grades between classmates
my thoughts:curious:

Reply 8

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by Brick_lover2
The term "brick" implies solidity and achievement, while "bad brick" suggests a lesson learned. This framing can motivate students to strive for improvement rather than fear failure.

thats cool i can tell that you like bricks🤣

Reply 9

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by anxious&paranoid
orr the Pass/Fail thing could be used for school reports and stuff, like stuff that students have access to see. There would still be a numbers/grades system which could be used for more serious stuff like school/university applications, but it would only be accessible by the teacher/exam board/school/ and (maybe parents?), and no student can access it, which means no comparing grades between classmates
my thoughts:curious:

Dude. That pass fail doohickey would make me anxious and paranoid

Reply 10

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by Chalk_snorter
Dude. That pass fail doohickey would make me anxious and paranoid

that was a good pun:awesome: i actually snorted out loud

Reply 11

If it’s pass/fail without students, teachers, educational institutions and employers being able to see what percentage of marks students got overall for the GCSE subject then nah. Even with the current system, I’m against the fact that the percentage of marks a student got for each qualification isn’t easily shown. A grade 5 for GCSE higher tier Maths might look good on paper (no pun intended) but is really good when you only know just over/under 30% of the content?

If it’ll be a case of:
GCSE Maths (student 1): Pass 57%
GCSE Maths (student 2): Pass 28%
GCSE English Language (student 1): Fail 41%
GCSE English Language (student 2): Fail 30%
Etc
So that schools, employers and universities can differentiate better between students.

Then I’d somewhat support it but in a manner that’s phased.

Reply 12

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by LDWinter
Let me explain,
I feel that the numbers used by exam boards breed an environment of self-entitement and a general "holier-than-thou" attitude. As someone who is sitting happily on a grade average of 6, people who have grades above me usually carry an air of superiority when talking to me because they have a bigger number on paper than me.
I suggested to my friends that they implement a "PASS/FAIL" grade only, moving the pass grade up slightly higher to a grade 5 equivalent and taking away any differentiation between candidates. I argue that this breeds a more encouraging environment around grades that convinces people to pass and pass only. This means people find out only what matters- whether they passed or not, meaning the 'snobs"have no ground to be mean to me- or others with lower grades- when discussing results.
I feel this would alleviate a common problem with GCSE-related egos and I'd love to hear people's opinions!


I don’t think this is really an issue with the grading system itself, but rather with the behaviour and attitude of your peers. I’d worry a pass/fail system would make people who try really hard and get top marks feel like their hard work is worth the same as someone who did very little and scraped a pass.

Reply 13

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by anxious&paranoid
orr the Pass/Fail thing could be used for school reports and stuff, like stuff that students have access to see. There would still be a numbers/grades system which could be used for more serious stuff like school/university applications, but it would only be accessible by the teacher/exam board/school/ and (maybe parents?), and no student can access it, which means no comparing grades between classmates
my thoughts:curious:


Sure. I agree that it is useful for colleges and unis (Oxbridge?) to know and differentiate between students. My main issue is the ego that is bred from having a higher number and making grades invisible to students alleviates that

Reply 14

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by Talkative Toad
If it’s pass/fail without students, teachers, educational institutions and employers being able to see what percentage of marks students got overall for the GCSE subject then nah. Even with the current system, I’m against the fact that the percentage of marks a student got for each qualification isn’t easily shown. A grade 5 for GCSE higher tier Maths might look good on paper (no pun intended) but is really good when you only know just over/under 30% of the content?
If it’ll be a case of:
GCSE Maths (student 1): Pass 57%
GCSE Maths (student 2): Pass 28%
GCSE English Language (student 1): Fail 41%
GCSE English Language (student 2): Fail 30%
Etc
So that schools, employers and universities can differentiate better between students.
Then I’d somewhat support it but in a manner that’s phased.


That makes more sense, but it still provides an "I'm better then you" opportunity

Reply 15

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by LittleFire10
I don’t think this is really an issue with the grading system itself, but rather with the behaviour and attitude of your peers. I’d worry a pass/fail system would make people who try really hard and get top marks feel like their hard work is worth the same as someone who did very little and scraped a pass.


Yes, but it is easier to hide/remove ranked grades compared to removing attitudes. Egos are pre-instated whereas grades can be presented in any way one likes

Reply 16

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by LDWinter
Yes, but it is easier to hide/remove ranked grades compared to removing attitudes. Egos are pre-instated whereas grades can be presented in any way one likes


But the grades aren’t actually the thing that you have an issue with, it’s the attitudes. I mean imagine that you’re a grade 9 student who puts in hours and hours of work, just to get the exact same recognition as someone who just crammed the night before and got a 5. It seems like a recipe for everyone just doing the bare minimum. In real life, people are different levels than others at many things, but you don’t just hide that to prevent the possibility of someone acting superior.

Reply 17

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by LDWinter
That makes more sense, but it still provides an "I'm better then you" opportunity


Yeah but you need some way of differentiating between scores in my opinion. Even with the current system I don’t like the fact that percentages aren’t easily shown. I’ll take percentages over grades.

Reply 18

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by LittleFire10
But the grades aren’t actually the thing that you have an issue with, it’s the attitudes. I mean imagine that you’re a grade 9 student who puts in hours and hours of work, just to get the exact same recognition as someone who just crammed the night before and got a 5. It seems like a recipe for everyone just doing the bare minimum. In real life, people are different levels than others at many things, but you don’t just hide that to prevent the possibility of someone acting superior.

Higher grade≠more effort, knowing more content and having a better memory? Sure, but not necessarily more effort at GCSE level in my opinion.

I put in way more effort for RS and English than I did for French and Maths but I got lower/similar grades in the former than the latter.

In fairness I can already speak French but yeah I did like 30 minutes of revision max for French, Maths I basically did none besides forced tutoring.
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Reply 19

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by Talkative Toad
Yeah but you need some way of differentiating between scores in my opinion. Even with the current system I don’t like the fact that percentages aren’t easily shown. I’ll take percentages over grades.


Eh, percentages almost feel too precise, the pressure of getting a 9, or your required grade, is much less than the pressure of getting 100%. The current system is effectively a best of both worlds approach, of course having pass/fail is a terrible idea, but losing your place for getting 93% instead of 94% (more of an A-Level issue, and already is a problem in some subjects with absurd grade boundaries imo) sounds like a nightmare.

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