Please be aware of my qualification message about " shelf-life "
Please be aware - O levels / Cse / GCSE / A level / Degree DO NOT EXPIRE EVER EVER EVER ! ! !
Yes, you heard that correctly.
People from the 1950s and 1960s have for many years enjoyed job after job based of their ancient results.
I was aware in 1989 - THEY HAVE CHANGED THE RULES - this has not I REPEAT NOT ever ever happened.
Nobody ever ever ever should tell you that over the past 4 or 5 years - YOUR RESULTS ARE NULL & VOID.
if doesn't matter if you talk to careers , office manager , job centre , etc - if they tell you your results have been lost in any way shape or form - THEY ARE LYING - their advice WRONG and plain ILLEGAL.
I have not worked in 30 years becuase I can't agree with every professional that my GCSE results in 1988 are valid. THEY STILL ARE .
They may be OLD - so what - they satisfied the law then - so they have to now.
Please if you are in doubt check with SOCIAL WORKER and EMPLOYMENT LAWYER.
DO NOT - NOT NOT - believe the COLLEGE ADMISSIONS / JOB ADVICE with your college - THEY LIE.
I am going to get to the matter of this problem with a SOCIAL WORKER & LAWYER - if I have to.
PLEASE DO NOT RESIT GCSE if you are ancient - like me - 30 to 40 - you have great past results.
Mostly we must pass LEVEL 2 - 5 NVQ qualifications as this is WORK EXPERIENCE.
Remember FORMAL EDUCATION is for the very few that can do it - many should STAY AWAY and get work experience.
" You can't get experience without a job - and you can't get a job without experience " - that is just a comedian's joke. Professional careers advisers should never tell you that as part of their job.
Your basic school-leaving certificates should get you in the door. Degree qualifies for graduate role.
NHS doctors keep their MDs for 30 years plus - why can't we - it appears.
I T qualifications may come and go - but they many are LICENSE-BASED - if anyone is " ****ed off " at having to re-sit them - they should think about leaving I T - and governments want to tax I T workers, as they earn amongst the highest. An actual I T degree is great from 10 years - the basic theory in that will not date - how can basic theories ever date ? - but work experience does . . .
If you believe CHANGES IN THE LAW - please discover :
Name of government minister
Year of EMPLOYMENT ACT
Quote page and revelant lines
Then contact SOCIAL WORKER and even lobby your MP - if there really is a problem.
Don't just lie down and except it.
Yes, you heard that correctly.
People from the 1950s and 1960s have for many years enjoyed job after job based of their ancient results.
I was aware in 1989 - THEY HAVE CHANGED THE RULES - this has not I REPEAT NOT ever ever happened.
Nobody ever ever ever should tell you that over the past 4 or 5 years - YOUR RESULTS ARE NULL & VOID.
if doesn't matter if you talk to careers , office manager , job centre , etc - if they tell you your results have been lost in any way shape or form - THEY ARE LYING - their advice WRONG and plain ILLEGAL.
I have not worked in 30 years becuase I can't agree with every professional that my GCSE results in 1988 are valid. THEY STILL ARE .
They may be OLD - so what - they satisfied the law then - so they have to now.
Please if you are in doubt check with SOCIAL WORKER and EMPLOYMENT LAWYER.
DO NOT - NOT NOT - believe the COLLEGE ADMISSIONS / JOB ADVICE with your college - THEY LIE.
I am going to get to the matter of this problem with a SOCIAL WORKER & LAWYER - if I have to.
PLEASE DO NOT RESIT GCSE if you are ancient - like me - 30 to 40 - you have great past results.
Mostly we must pass LEVEL 2 - 5 NVQ qualifications as this is WORK EXPERIENCE.
Remember FORMAL EDUCATION is for the very few that can do it - many should STAY AWAY and get work experience.
" You can't get experience without a job - and you can't get a job without experience " - that is just a comedian's joke. Professional careers advisers should never tell you that as part of their job.
Your basic school-leaving certificates should get you in the door. Degree qualifies for graduate role.
NHS doctors keep their MDs for 30 years plus - why can't we - it appears.
I T qualifications may come and go - but they many are LICENSE-BASED - if anyone is " ****ed off " at having to re-sit them - they should think about leaving I T - and governments want to tax I T workers, as they earn amongst the highest. An actual I T degree is great from 10 years - the basic theory in that will not date - how can basic theories ever date ? - but work experience does . . .
If you believe CHANGES IN THE LAW - please discover :
Name of government minister
Year of EMPLOYMENT ACT
Quote page and revelant lines
Then contact SOCIAL WORKER and even lobby your MP - if there really is a problem.
Don't just lie down and except it.
(edited 1 month ago)
Reply 1
I don’t think I’ve heard a suggestion that an academic qualification expires. (English tests and entrance exams, yes.)
It’s true that some higher education routes might want evidence of recent study, (and I suppose in theory a job role might), but that’s a completely different matter.
It’s true that some higher education routes might want evidence of recent study, (and I suppose in theory a job role might), but that’s a completely different matter.
Reply 2
n.hurt
OP
3
Thank you for your sensitive reply - and I throughly agree with you - I have now passed a LEVEL 2 BUSINESS ADMIN course . . .
You may also not be in my "delusion" group then . . .
Internet full of questions of - DOES MY DEGREE EXPIRE - why would they want to ask that, if they weren't worried. Of course they DO NOT . . .
So why have I seen these comments - possibly from MUMSNET . . .
Mum of boy - "My 16 year son does not know where he is going in 5 years - who does ? He's just heard of GCSE shelf-life. Biggest drama we have had with him - thought he was going to faint at one point."
Girl in toilet - "Posting while having nervous breakdown. Potential having all A's - but will lose them all due to a shelf life of 2 years . . ."
Professionals have even told me to my face that I have no qualifications due to them BEING TOO OLD - and through CHANGES IN THE LAW etc etc . . .
Even my lovely navigator from ROUTES TO WORK believed her degree was to expire and values her LEVELS 2 and 3 certificates much more.
Weird eh ?
Let's just leave things here - I'm not a returning UNIVERSITY student - but a entry-level work returner wishing to gain work experience and study LEVEL 3.
Let's put these bonkers ideas on the back burner until I can discover and prove more current ones between 2025 up to 2027 . . . ! ! !
You may also not be in my "delusion" group then . . .
Internet full of questions of - DOES MY DEGREE EXPIRE - why would they want to ask that, if they weren't worried. Of course they DO NOT . . .
So why have I seen these comments - possibly from MUMSNET . . .
Mum of boy - "My 16 year son does not know where he is going in 5 years - who does ? He's just heard of GCSE shelf-life. Biggest drama we have had with him - thought he was going to faint at one point."
Girl in toilet - "Posting while having nervous breakdown. Potential having all A's - but will lose them all due to a shelf life of 2 years . . ."
Professionals have even told me to my face that I have no qualifications due to them BEING TOO OLD - and through CHANGES IN THE LAW etc etc . . .
Even my lovely navigator from ROUTES TO WORK believed her degree was to expire and values her LEVELS 2 and 3 certificates much more.
Weird eh ?
Let's just leave things here - I'm not a returning UNIVERSITY student - but a entry-level work returner wishing to gain work experience and study LEVEL 3.
Let's put these bonkers ideas on the back burner until I can discover and prove more current ones between 2025 up to 2027 . . . ! ! !
(edited 1 month ago)
Reply 3
I think the issue here isn't whether qualifications expire, (which they expressly don't), but that you had neither work eperience nor recent study for a period of 30 years.That's not really much to hang an application on, so I can well understand why you might have been encouraged to do something more recent.
Reply 4
Original post by n.hurt
Hello , thanks for reply.
Please read - QUALIFICATIONS NULL & VOID AFTER 5 YEARS - WHAT TO DO ?
on THE STUDENT ROOM.
Posters THE WILLEST WILL & ANM 775 seem to share my personal experience of the world.
Please read - QUALIFICATIONS NULL & VOID AFTER 5 YEARS - WHAT TO DO ?
on THE STUDENT ROOM.
Posters THE WILLEST WILL & ANM 775 seem to share my personal experience of the world.
Linking to the thread you are referring to:
https://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/showthread.php?t=5697144
The majority of replies there restate what I put above, that qualifications do not expire, but when applying for higher education unis are within their rights to want to see evidence of recent study, (3 and 5 years being common cutoffs).
No suprise that an IT related role would want a recent qualification or work experience, surely?
Reply 5
You are correct that qualifications like GCSEs do not expire.
However a potential employer couldn't give a rats ass what your 1988 GCSE results were. They want to know what you've been doing recently in terms of job experience or education.
However a potential employer couldn't give a rats ass what your 1988 GCSE results were. They want to know what you've been doing recently in terms of job experience or education.
Reply 6
Original post by Gazpacho.
You are correct that qualifications like GCSEs do not expire.
However a potential employer couldn't give a rats ass what your 1988 GCSE results were. They want to know what you've been doing recently in terms of job experience or education.
However a potential employer couldn't give a rats ass what your 1988 GCSE results were. They want to know what you've been doing recently in terms of job experience or education.
PRSOM
Reply 7
n.hurt
OP
3
Original post by Admit-One
I think the issue here isn't whether qualifications expire, (which they expressly don't), but that you had neither work eperience nor recent study for a period of 30 years.That's not really much to hang an application on, so I can well understand why you might have been encouraged to do something more recent.
Excuse me - that sounds like age discrimination and my past has nothing to do with EXPIRING and CHANGES OF THE LAW. All my experiences and education are the sum of me - and they are current and revelant.
(edited 1 month ago)
Reply 8
n.hurt
OP
3
Original post by Gazpacho.
You are correct that qualifications like GCSEs do not expire.
However a potential employer couldn't give a rats ass what your 1988 GCSE results were. They want to know what you've been doing recently in terms of job experience or education.
However a potential employer couldn't give a rats ass what your 1988 GCSE results were. They want to know what you've been doing recently in terms of job experience or education.
Yes - professionals will care a rat's ass - as you so eloquently put it - everyone it appears are being assessed for various reasons based on prior GCSE performance no matter how long ago - even if they have a top degree - it has become the new way of separating the wheat from the chaff at even more hyper critical levels.
Some of us ancient biddies - I am in my 50's - have long periods of looking after families and being on INCAPACITY BENEFIT - as I have done.
When I studied for my current LEVEL 2 BUSINESS ADMIN - the SKILLS & LEARNING CENTRE took my GSCES results and even noticed LEVEL 3 ability within my BTEC NATIONAL CERT.
(edited 1 month ago)
Reply 9
Original post by n.hurt
Excuse me - that sounds like age discrimination and my past has nothing to do with EXPIRING and CHANGES OF THE LAW. All my experiences and education are the sum of me - and they are current and revelant.
Not really, an employer just isn't going to take a chance on someone with nothing on their CV for 3 decades. Asking for recent examples to demonstrate competencies isn't discrimination.
I should note that I don't really have anything further to add to the thread.
Reply 10
Original post by n.hurt
Employers ARE going to take a chance on me - YOU ARE discriminating against me.
- completely ignoring CHANGES IN THE LAW and EXPIRY to victimise me to rubbish my real concerns and observations- may be your English cert / modules should become NULL & VOID.
My job coach at THE JOB CENTRE has said I am qualified for work and will soon get a job.
Likewise ROUTES TO WORK programme.
It is short-sighted of you to suggest I cannot get a job - and pay my taxes to a government that may appear to a few to be stopping our qualifications.
- completely ignoring CHANGES IN THE LAW and EXPIRY to victimise me to rubbish my real concerns and observations- may be your English cert / modules should become NULL & VOID.
My job coach at THE JOB CENTRE has said I am qualified for work and will soon get a job.
Likewise ROUTES TO WORK programme.
It is short-sighted of you to suggest I cannot get a job - and pay my taxes to a government that may appear to a few to be stopping our qualifications.
If you are getting a job soon why are you taking issues with conversation on a forum? Or a comment made to you in 1989? Why do you keep editing your posts? Why do you keep making ad-hominem attacks on those who are taking time to reply to you?
I don't care about the answers to any of these things. They're for you to reflect on. As I said earlier, I am bowing out as I sense you are getting more aggrevated and making less sense as we go along. I hope the job role works out well.
Reply 11
n.hurt
OP
3
Why are you so angry against me ? I find you unprofessional. You said you were leaving this thread - kindly keep off it then.
You haven't even provided any explanation as to why students are gaslighting each other - lying that qualifications are null and void after 5 years - and helping the other who is ****ed off at re-sitting I T qualifications - that we haven't even identified. A faculty member shouldn't even mention about changes in the law - they haven't been any to my informed knowledge.
THIS IS MY FINAL WORD ON THE SUBJECT - I WILL NOT BE VISTING THIS THREAD AGAIN.
You haven't even provided any explanation as to why students are gaslighting each other - lying that qualifications are null and void after 5 years - and helping the other who is ****ed off at re-sitting I T qualifications - that we haven't even identified. A faculty member shouldn't even mention about changes in the law - they haven't been any to my informed knowledge.
THIS IS MY FINAL WORD ON THE SUBJECT - I WILL NOT BE VISTING THIS THREAD AGAIN.
Reply 12
Original post by n.hurt
Why are you so angry against me ?
You’re the one using caps throughout and telling me I’m hard of thinking.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Reply 13
Original post by n.hurt
Please be aware - O levels / Cse / GCSE / A level / Degree DO NOT EXPIRE EVER EVER EVER ! ! !
Yes, you heard that correctly.
People from the 1950s and 1960s have for many years enjoyed job after job based of their ancient results.
I was aware in 1989 - THEY HAVE CHANGED THE RULES - this has not I REPEAT NOT ever ever happened.
Nobody ever ever ever should tell you that over the past 4 or 5 years - YOUR RESULTS ARE NULL & VOID.
if doesn't matter if you talk to careers , office manager , job centre , etc - if they tell you your results have been lost in any way shape or form - THEY ARE LYING - their advice WRONG and plain ILLEGAL.
I have not worked in 30 years becuase I can't agree with every professional that my GCSE results in 1988 are valid. THEY STILL ARE .
They may be OLD - so what - they satisfied the law then - so they have to now.
Please if you are in doubt check with SOCIAL WORKER and EMPLOYMENT LAWYER.
DO NOT - NOT NOT - believe the COLLEGE ADMISSIONS / JOB ADVICE with your college - THEY LIE.
I am going to get to the matter of this problem with a SOCIAL WORKER & LAWYER - if I have to.
PLEASE DO NOT RESIT GCSE if you are ancient - like me - 30 to 40 - you have great past results.
Mostly we must pass LEVEL 2 - 5 NVQ qualifications as this is WORK EXPERIENCE.
Remember FORMAL EDUCATION is for the very few that can do it - many should STAY AWAY and get work experience.
" You can't get experience without a job - and you can't get a job without experience " - that is just a comedian's joke. Professional careers advisers should never tell you that as part of their job.
Your basic school-leaving certificates should get you in the door. Degree qualifies for graduate role.
NHS doctors keep their MDs for 30 years plus - why can't we - it appears.
I T qualifications may come and go - but they many are LICENSE-BASED - if anyone is " ****ed off " at having to re-sit them - they should think about leaving I T - and governments want to tax I T workers, as they earn amongst the highest. An actual I T degree is great from 10 years - the basic theory in that will not date - how can basic theories ever date ? - but work experience does . . .
If you believe CHANGES IN THE LAW - please discover :
Name of government minister
Year of EMPLOYMENT ACT
Quote page and revelant lines
Then contact SOCIAL WORKER and even lobby your MP - if there really is a problem.
Don't just lie down and except it.
Yes, you heard that correctly.
People from the 1950s and 1960s have for many years enjoyed job after job based of their ancient results.
I was aware in 1989 - THEY HAVE CHANGED THE RULES - this has not I REPEAT NOT ever ever happened.
Nobody ever ever ever should tell you that over the past 4 or 5 years - YOUR RESULTS ARE NULL & VOID.
if doesn't matter if you talk to careers , office manager , job centre , etc - if they tell you your results have been lost in any way shape or form - THEY ARE LYING - their advice WRONG and plain ILLEGAL.
I have not worked in 30 years becuase I can't agree with every professional that my GCSE results in 1988 are valid. THEY STILL ARE .
They may be OLD - so what - they satisfied the law then - so they have to now.
Please if you are in doubt check with SOCIAL WORKER and EMPLOYMENT LAWYER.
DO NOT - NOT NOT - believe the COLLEGE ADMISSIONS / JOB ADVICE with your college - THEY LIE.
I am going to get to the matter of this problem with a SOCIAL WORKER & LAWYER - if I have to.
PLEASE DO NOT RESIT GCSE if you are ancient - like me - 30 to 40 - you have great past results.
Mostly we must pass LEVEL 2 - 5 NVQ qualifications as this is WORK EXPERIENCE.
Remember FORMAL EDUCATION is for the very few that can do it - many should STAY AWAY and get work experience.
" You can't get experience without a job - and you can't get a job without experience " - that is just a comedian's joke. Professional careers advisers should never tell you that as part of their job.
Your basic school-leaving certificates should get you in the door. Degree qualifies for graduate role.
NHS doctors keep their MDs for 30 years plus - why can't we - it appears.
I T qualifications may come and go - but they many are LICENSE-BASED - if anyone is " ****ed off " at having to re-sit them - they should think about leaving I T - and governments want to tax I T workers, as they earn amongst the highest. An actual I T degree is great from 10 years - the basic theory in that will not date - how can basic theories ever date ? - but work experience does . . .
If you believe CHANGES IN THE LAW - please discover :
Name of government minister
Year of EMPLOYMENT ACT
Quote page and revelant lines
Then contact SOCIAL WORKER and even lobby your MP - if there really is a problem.
Don't just lie down and except it.
If its a comedian joke. What's the truth? Cuz it sounds true.
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