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Will I get penalised for dropping out of a UKRI-funded PhD before officially starting

Hi there,

I am in a bit of a runt. I have received a fully funded PhD studentship by the MRC. This does not belong to any of its Doctoral Training Programme or iCASE. Rather, it is a MRC grant awarded to the host institute, and the Studentship is part of the grant.

I have not been aware of an official PhD contract to be signed between me and the MRC in this studentship, unlike some of what I know with DTPs. Rather, the institute administrator said all I need to do is to register for the PhD course in the University's system. Supposedly, there is an offer letter from the University to confirm my enrolment but by that point it is a formality. Hence, the course registration is better construed as a commitment. The PhD studentship will start later in Autumn.

I am still undecided on this PhD, but the supervisor and administrator are starting to send follow-up reminders to register for the course, and I cannot find another excuse to delay longer.

I still have one position to hear from soon, which actually is my first preference. That position is just a research assistant role, but if it goes through I am willing to re-try PhD applications for the 2026 round. Currently, I am very anxious as there is nothing else on the horizon, so still thinking to register for this PhD course, and drop it if the better offer comes through and confirmed, before its starting date.

I am very concerned if dropping out before its start will make me blacklisted from the UKRI in the future from their funded PhD studentships. Has anyone gone through something similar like this? Will I actually be penalised?

Again, this is not a DTP.

Thank you in advance!

Reply 1

If I were you I would follow up on the RA role, letting them know you have a PhD offer.

How would you feel if you got neither the PhD nor the RA job?

I am not aware of a "blacklist" but it could affect reputation. Are you actually keen on the PhD? It is not something to go into lightly, as it is hard to "get out" of a PhD without it looking as a negative on your CV. In my opinion it is better to "drag your feet" than to accept and drop. You can register as late as end of June or even beginning of August.

Reply 2

Could you just tell your prospective supervisor that you've been applying for another opportunity and are waiting for results to make your final decision? That will allow you to be transparent and will definitely look infinitely better than accepting the PhD and then quitting before it even started. Much more headache for admin and will probably hurt the supervisor's feelings.

Reply 3

Original post
by laam90
Hi there,

I am in a bit of a runt. I have received a fully funded PhD studentship by the MRC. This does not belong to any of its Doctoral Training Programme or iCASE. Rather, it is a MRC grant awarded to the host institute, and the Studentship is part of the grant.

I have not been aware of an official PhD contract to be signed between me and the MRC in this studentship, unlike some of what I know with DTPs. Rather, the institute administrator said all I need to do is to register for the PhD course in the University's system. Supposedly, there is an offer letter from the University to confirm my enrolment but by that point it is a formality. Hence, the course registration is better construed as a commitment. The PhD studentship will start later in Autumn.

I am still undecided on this PhD, but the supervisor and administrator are starting to send follow-up reminders to register for the course, and I cannot find another excuse to delay longer.

I still have one position to hear from soon, which actually is my first preference. That position is just a research assistant role, but if it goes through I am willing to re-try PhD applications for the 2026 round. Currently, I am very anxious as there is nothing else on the horizon, so still thinking to register for this PhD course, and drop it if the better offer comes through and confirmed, before its starting date.

I am very concerned if dropping out before its start will make me blacklisted from the UKRI in the future from their funded PhD studentships. Has anyone gone through something similar like this? Will I actually be penalised?

Again, this is not a DTP.

Thank you in advance!


Ultimately the supervisor needs an answer, the reason is if you don’t accept the position they will want to offer the funding to another candidate, a lot of these funding pools are time limited so the university & academic will be keen to not waste it.
If you were to drop out formally before starting having accepted the position, this would as far as i am aware be highly unlikely to affect your future funding applications if you do it before starting however it almost certainly would burn the bridge with supervisor & potentially the research group or department.
The one thing that is important is honesty & communication. It is ok to say, “this is a very big personal decision I have two options can i have until X day to decide” or, “could you give me a deadline of when i need to commit”. However as this affects the future staffing of a group and funding opportunities for others i do think openness & honesty is the right thing to do. Academics understand people apply for multiple PhD programs. But once you commit firmly & sign the contract unless you have unexpected reasons at the time you signed you should stand by the commitment.

Reply 4

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by mnot
Ultimately the supervisor needs an answer, the reason is if you don’t accept the position they will want to offer the funding to another candidate, a lot of these funding pools are time limited so the university & academic will be keen to not waste it.
If you were to drop out formally before starting having accepted the position, this would as far as i am aware be highly unlikely to affect your future funding applications if you do it before starting however it almost certainly would burn the bridge with supervisor & potentially the research group or department.
The one thing that is important is honesty & communication. It is ok to say, “this is a very big personal decision I have two options can i have until X day to decide” or, “could you give me a deadline of when i need to commit”. However as this affects the future staffing of a group and funding opportunities for others i do think openness & honesty is the right thing to do. Academics understand people apply for multiple PhD programs. But once you commit firmly & sign the contract unless you have unexpected reasons at the time you signed you should stand by the commitment.

This is the best response really. It's important to hold true to what you want to do whilst also not wasting resources that could go to others.

Let us know how you get on. I'm a bit curious as to why you prefer a temporary RA position PhD, or why they are not compatible as sometimes to it can do both. If interest is because the RA position is in an area you are more interested in, then that's where you need to do a PhD.

Reply 5

Thank you for your replies.

I have enquired about department admin and PI the deadlines for this PhD commitment. They haven't given one and just remarked it is better as soon as I can. As the overall grant has already been awarded to the institute, I suspect they have freedom themselves to decide, and they just need to inform the MRC grant administrator a candidate has been found and committed to. The RA interview is early next week, and the RA side confirmed that any results will be relayed informally first, on the same day after the interview. So overall, I think time-wise this is still manageable.

I am fully aware that PhDs are not light decisions, which was why I took time to think about my career needs ahead, interests, and feedback from current/ex-students about the lab culture. Despite all this, l still find the RA position as more attractive. The PhD project's design and goal doesn't seem able to integrate aspects that I have greater interest and career wants in, and I have non-negligible reservations about the PI's supervision. In fairness, I could still go and am confident in my abilities to complete the PhD, just that I am not sure if I want to experience 3.5 years of grinding in such setting.

I feel very anxious because I have worked very hard towards a PhD studentship with rejections to all my preferred options. In the meantime, the market has been so bad that I have been unable to secure any research assistant/technician roles since graduating last September, as I cannot compete against a saturation of PhDs, postdocs and industry scientists who have all been impacted by layoffs or hiring freezes. So I don't have a lot of options for further research training and it is getting very mentally taxing.
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Reply 6

Original post
by laam90
Thank you for your replies.
I have enquired about department admin and PI the deadlines for this PhD commitment. They haven't given one and just remarked it is better as soon as I can. As the overall grant has already been awarded to the institute, I suspect they have freedom themselves to decide, and they just need to inform the MRC grant administrator a candidate has been found and committed to. The RA interview is early next week, and the RA side confirmed that any results will be relayed informally first, on the same day after the interview. So overall, I think time-wise this is still manageable.
I am fully aware that PhDs are not light decisions, which was why I took time to think about my career needs ahead, interests, and feedback from current/ex-students about the lab culture. Despite all this, l still find the RA position as more attractive. The PhD project's design and goal doesn't seem able to integrate aspects that I have greater interest and career wants in, and I have non-negligible reservations about the PI's supervision. In fairness, I could still go and am confident in my abilities to complete the PhD, just that I am not sure if I want to experience 3.5 years of grinding in such setting.
I feel very anxious because I have worked very hard towards a PhD studentship with rejections to all my preferred options. In the meantime, the market has been so bad that I have been unable to secure any research assistant/technician roles since graduating last September, as I cannot compete against a saturation of PhDs, postdocs and industry scientists who have all been impacted by layoffs or hiring freezes. So I don't have a lot of options for further research training and it is getting very mentally taxing.

Please wait for the right PhD which fits your interest and career wants, there are quite a few PhD studentships but it will take networking to get the ideal one.

I will admit to bias here. I regret "settling" for the PhD I am in, which I did after much pressure and feeling similarly to you in terms of lots of competition. First jobs (RA/Technician) are in my opinion harder to get than a PhD, so that is not unusual.

When the unexpected and unfair hurdles and barriers come up in a PhD though, you'll find these much easier to bare if you love the topic.

Best of luck for your RA interview.

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