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how do i move forward with exclusion for academic misconduct?

it was my own fault i know that it was silyl stupid and i take responsibility. for a single assigment that was an academic poster and bib i left it last minute and pasted chatgpt into large amounts of the work. Its an assignment from december and it has recieved a mark. at first i assumed its because its under investigation. back then i didnt know misconduct was super serious and i also didnt know you can check turnitin to see how much it detects ai. I thought at worst I'd get a zero. Anyway eventually i had to contact the school about it and they said there was an issue with the file. I've had no other problem with other work i didnt paste any ai into so i decided to admti to the IT I think the problem stems from me using AI. I was already screwed as if they found a way to get the file uploaded it would've been deteced immediately. I have little hope my confession will help me as im at a russel group (uon) so i assume it'll be harsh. The IT department have raised it and its a support ticket now but now its out there. After dense research I can see AM is serious and im 90% getting kicked out. Its been difficult when I depeed it but I deserve it. I havent been able to sleep, eat or doing anything really the anxiey has made me ill until i realised it doesnt matter now. I may have ruined my life but feeling sick about it changes nothing. Obviosuly I will do my best to show i am truyl remosrseful, join an integrity course at my own will and show them I've got in xontact with a doctor etc because I have been struggling with unmonitored depression for years and isolation at uni only made that worst. But at the end of the day these arent excuses and im screwed now. So i really hope anyone has any advice as to what i can do next? Apparently if i reapply to unis not as transfer but from first year they wont ask about my academic history so i was thinking i could try applying to NTU for clearing as its less strict but im worried finding another univeristy to go into will be hard altogether. Also my origna path was to become a lawyer and i feel ive screwed that now that this whole thing will be put on my recird. Even when applying for jobs it will be there following me around forevermore. In so many ways i feel hopeless, theres not much info on thei nternet as to what I can do which makes me feel worse. My true passion was never academia, it was to be an artist but I NEED a backup option. I need a degree as safety ground. Is there anyway I can get back on track at another unvieristy or is my record damaged and so is all my oppurtunities?
Original post by TTAva2000
it was my own fault i know that it was silyl stupid and i take responsibility. for a single assigment that was an academic poster and bib i left it last minute and pasted chatgpt into large amounts of the work. Its an assignment from december and it has recieved a mark. at first i assumed its because its under investigation. back then i didnt know misconduct was super serious and i also didnt know you can check turnitin to see how much it detects ai. I thought at worst I'd get a zero. Anyway eventually i had to contact the school about it and they said there was an issue with the file. I've had no other problem with other work i didnt paste any ai into so i decided to admti to the IT I think the problem stems from me using AI. I was already screwed as if they found a way to get the file uploaded it would've been deteced immediately. I have little hope my confession will help me as im at a russel group (uon) so i assume it'll be harsh. The IT department have raised it and its a support ticket now but now its out there. After dense research I can see AM is serious and im 90% getting kicked out. Its been difficult when I depeed it but I deserve it. I havent been able to sleep, eat or doing anything really the anxiey has made me ill until i realised it doesnt matter now. I may have ruined my life but feeling sick about it changes nothing. Obviosuly I will do my best to show i am truyl remosrseful, join an integrity course at my own will and show them I've got in xontact with a doctor etc because I have been struggling with unmonitored depression for years and isolation at uni only made that worst. But at the end of the day these arent excuses and im screwed now. So i really hope anyone has any advice as to what i can do next? Apparently if i reapply to unis not as transfer but from first year they wont ask about my academic history so i was thinking i could try applying to NTU for clearing as its less strict but im worried finding another univeristy to go into will be hard altogether. Also my origna path was to become a lawyer and i feel ive screwed that now that this whole thing will be put on my recird. Even when applying for jobs it will be there following me around forevermore. In so many ways i feel hopeless, theres not much info on thei nternet as to what I can do which makes me feel worse. My true passion was never academia, it was to be an artist but I NEED a backup option. I need a degree as safety ground. Is there anyway I can get back on track at another unvieristy or is my record damaged and so is all my oppurtunities?

You say, "Its an assignment from december and it has recieved a mark". Did you mean "hasn't", perhaps? I ask as you then explain that "there was an issue with the file" and "if they found a way to get the file uploaded", implying that no-one had (at the time) reviewed its contents. That being the case, it's difficult to see how "it has recieved a mark". Anyway...

You then reach the bizzare conclusion that the reason they're having trouble with the file "stems from me using AI". You also say that "The IT department have raised it and its a support ticket now but now its out there." However, you've said nothing about what's actually happened beyond that. Has anything further happened? Is anyone apart if IT aware of your confession?

You say, "After dense research I can see AM is serious and im 90% getting kicked out." What specifically have you read in the university's policies or procedures which has led you to this conclusion?

Have you read Nottingham's Academic Misconduct Procedure? It details many potential penalties, other than simply a termination of your studies.

Do you know whether the Academic Misconduct Officer determined your case meets the criteria for a Desk Based Approach or to hold a School Academic Misconduct meeting? Do you know if the case has been referred to the Academic Misconduct Committee?

Being blunt, you need to stop catastrophising and start thinking and behaving like the lawyer you've said you want to be. Clarity of thought is key. So stop jumping to conclusions as to what you've decided your fate will be, and stick to the cold, hard, facts. Has an Academic Misconduct Officer even been assigned to your case? Or is your imagination ten steps ahead of reality?

Reply 2

Original post by TTAva2000
it was my own fault i know that it was silyl stupid and i take responsibility. for a single assigment that was an academic poster and bib i left it last minute and pasted chatgpt into large amounts of the work. Its an assignment from december and it has recieved a mark. at first i assumed its because its under investigation. back then i didnt know misconduct was super serious and i also didnt know you can check turnitin to see how much it detects ai. I thought at worst I'd get a zero. Anyway eventually i had to contact the school about it and they said there was an issue with the file. I've had no other problem with other work i didnt paste any ai into so i decided to admti to the IT I think the problem stems from me using AI. I was already screwed as if they found a way to get the file uploaded it would've been deteced immediately. I have little hope my confession will help me as im at a russel group (uon) so i assume it'll be harsh. The IT department have raised it and its a support ticket now but now its out there. After dense research I can see AM is serious and im 90% getting kicked out. Its been difficult when I depeed it but I deserve it. I havent been able to sleep, eat or doing anything really the anxiey has made me ill until i realised it doesnt matter now. I may have ruined my life but feeling sick about it changes nothing. Obviosuly I will do my best to show i am truyl remosrseful, join an integrity course at my own will and show them I've got in xontact with a doctor etc because I have been struggling with unmonitored depression for years and isolation at uni only made that worst. But at the end of the day these arent excuses and im screwed now. So i really hope anyone has any advice as to what i can do next? Apparently if i reapply to unis not as transfer but from first year they wont ask about my academic history so i was thinking i could try applying to NTU for clearing as its less strict but im worried finding another univeristy to go into will be hard altogether. Also my origna path was to become a lawyer and i feel ive screwed that now that this whole thing will be put on my recird. Even when applying for jobs it will be there following me around forevermore. In so many ways i feel hopeless, theres not much info on thei nternet as to what I can do which makes me feel worse. My true passion was never academia, it was to be an artist but I NEED a backup option. I need a degree as safety ground. Is there anyway I can get back on track at another unvieristy or is my record damaged and so is all my oppurtunities?

Hi @TTAva2000 ,

Firstly, make sure not to jump to conclusions with this situation. Universities may have different approaches to the situation, therefore predicting what will happen will be difficult. If this is your first time, the university may take this into considerations as you clearly show remorse and its a lapse in judgement.

Additionally, try not to google and compare your situation to others, as this will only make you more stressed.

The best thing to do is just try and live in the present and try to stop thinking about how this could impact your future. I'm confident you will still be on the path to your goals once this is all over. Just wait until you have officially heard back as you are unaware how this may be being viewed.

I hope this helps, please feel free to ask me any questions,
-Sophia (University of Central Lancashire)

Reply 3

Original post by TTAva2000
it was my own fault i know that it was silyl stupid and i take responsibility. for a single assigment that was an academic poster and bib i left it last minute and pasted chatgpt into large amounts of the work. Its an assignment from december and it has recieved a mark. at first i assumed its because its under investigation. back then i didnt know misconduct was super serious and i also didnt know you can check turnitin to see how much it detects ai. I thought at worst I'd get a zero. Anyway eventually i had to contact the school about it and they said there was an issue with the file. I've had no other problem with other work i didnt paste any ai into so i decided to admti to the IT I think the problem stems from me using AI. I was already screwed as if they found a way to get the file uploaded it would've been deteced immediately. I have little hope my confession will help me as im at a russel group (uon) so i assume it'll be harsh. The IT department have raised it and its a support ticket now but now its out there. After dense research I can see AM is serious and im 90% getting kicked out. Its been difficult when I depeed it but I deserve it. I havent been able to sleep, eat or doing anything really the anxiey has made me ill until i realised it doesnt matter now. I may have ruined my life but feeling sick about it changes nothing. Obviosuly I will do my best to show i am truyl remosrseful, join an integrity course at my own will and show them I've got in xontact with a doctor etc because I have been struggling with unmonitored depression for years and isolation at uni only made that worst. But at the end of the day these arent excuses and im screwed now. So i really hope anyone has any advice as to what i can do next? Apparently if i reapply to unis not as transfer but from first year they wont ask about my academic history so i was thinking i could try applying to NTU for clearing as its less strict but im worried finding another univeristy to go into will be hard altogether. Also my origna path was to become a lawyer and i feel ive screwed that now that this whole thing will be put on my recird. Even when applying for jobs it will be there following me around forevermore. In so many ways i feel hopeless, theres not much info on thei nternet as to what I can do which makes me feel worse. My true passion was never academia, it was to be an artist but I NEED a backup option. I need a degree as safety ground. Is there anyway I can get back on track at another unvieristy or is my record damaged and so is all my oppurtunities?

Go and see the SU and read the infomration suggested in post #2

Reply 4

Original post by DataVenia
You say, "Its an assignment from december and it has recieved a mark". Did you mean "hasn't", perhaps? I ask as you then explain that "there was an issue with the file" and "if they found a way to get the file uploaded", implying that no-one had (at the time) reviewed its contents. That being the case, it's difficult to see how "it has recieved a mark". Anyway...
You then reach the bizzare conclusion that the reason they're having trouble with the file "stems from me using AI". You also say that "The IT department have raised it and its a support ticket now but now its out there." However, you've said nothing about what's actually happened beyond that. Has anything further happened? Is anyone apart if IT aware of your confession?
You say, "After dense research I can see AM is serious and im 90% getting kicked out." What specifically have you read in the university's policies or procedures which has led you to this conclusion?
Have you read Nottingham's Academic Misconduct Procedure? It details many potential penalties, other than simply a termination of your studies.
Do you know whether the Academic Misconduct Officer determined your case meets the criteria for a Desk Based Approach or to hold a School Academic Misconduct meeting? Do you know if the case has been referred to the Academic Misconduct Committee?
Being blunt, you need to stop catastrophising and start thinking and behaving like the lawyer you've said you want to be. Clarity of thought is key. So stop jumping to conclusions as to what you've decided your fate will be, and stick to the cold, hard, facts. Has an Academic Misconduct Officer even been assigned to your case? Or is your imagination ten steps ahead of reality?

I did look into Nottingham’s penalties and it could range from failure of module to explosion but I just want to prepare myself for the worst.

I don’t think it’s bizarre. None of my other assignments have had issues uploading and I’ve not used ai the way I do with this single assignment that does have ai.

I also decided to confess because when the it does successfully upload the assignment it will be flagged as AI. So they were going to figure out either way. I hoped that if I admit it and show remorse and honest before it’s investigated it will help with leniency but obviously plagiarising is a huge crime in academia so I do not want to be left unprepared with what to do if it’s expulsion. I have looked into this and others cases all over the internet. Because I copy and pasted and it wasn’t accidental or just a mistake of references or anything like that I feel it will be taken more severely and very fairly so as I huge impact of judgement is if it was internist and how much was used.

Again I do not want to assume the best which is I get to stay but fail and I don’t prepare for the worst outcome and then it does happen. I want to be prepared also so if I am kicked out it won’t be as much of a shock. It isn’t bizarre and I’m not jumping to conclusions. The teachers were always going to find this out. Keeping quiet outside made things worse. I know I shouldn’t have done this so carelessly in the first place but I don’t think I’m panicking for no reason. I doubt UON is lenient it’s a Russel group. Many have been kicked out for first offences.

It’s a support ticket so it will be referred to the school of my subjects and since I’ve admitted it action will take place. They won’t let me off that’s how the process as I have read works. I am only trying to prepare myself for this process not imagine stuff. Realistically I’ve admitted it it’s out there now. They won’t leave it alone.

Reply 5

They very likely won't boot you unless you're a third year.

You do have to declare your entire academic history if you reapply.

It's probsbly not as bad as you think.

There is good advice in this thread. Take it.

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