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Questions to Mature Students (Returning to Education After 5+ Years)

Hi, I have some questions for fellow mature students. Ideally I would love to hear from those who took a significant break from education (5+ years) and didn’t take science A-levels, but later pursued a science-focused degree.

A bit of info: I got high grades in all 3 sciences at GCSE but that was 10 years ago. I’m going to uni to study Diagnostic Radiography. As I didn’t take any science A-levels (I achieved 4 A-levels in Humanities or Social Science subjects) I’ll be doing a foundation year.

No need to answer all, any input is appreciated 😊.

1) How difficult did you find returning to studying something science-related after a long break on a scale of 1~10?

2) Did you do a foundation year and if yes, did you find Year 0 hard? Did it prepare the groundwork knowledge needed for Year 1?

3) Did you do any reading or prep before starting university? Would you recommend brushing up on basics in advance of starting, or is it better not to stress and just focus once the course begins/when you’re given topics to learn?

4) Any tips for getting back into the academic mindset? I’ve been working for the past few years, so I’m trying to mentally shift back into student mode.

5) Did you work part-time while studying? If so, how did you manage balancing a full-time course with a part-time job?

6) As a mature student, did you ever feel ‘out of place’ in lectures/seminars/societies/halls? Especially when surrounded by school leavers?

7) What advantages or disadvantages did you notice about going to university later in life?

8) Out of interest, what made you choose to return to education after all this time? Thank you kindly!

Reply 1

I am just going to piggy back off your questions if that's okay! I am a bit older then must of the other students will be (I start in September) Because of my disabilities, severe dyslexia, selective mutism and severe anxiety I had to stay in education longer and I am now about to go straight into uni. So I am afraid I am not much use to you sorry! But you have raised some very interesting points.

Reply 2

I can answer some of these. Years out of education, followed by Access course and then into medicine.

1.

I didn't go from zero to University in one step. I had a prior degree (STEM) but completed that years before. My A levels were largely ineffectual due to my family circumstances at the time which I won't go into here.

2.

I didn't do a foundation year, but I know people who have completed them and in the main it does prepare you nicely for year 1. You'll be familiar with the content which helps in of itself but the main bonus is in having your study methodology already ingrained. Degree can be very different from A level study in this respect.

3.

Yes, I did some preparation before University, the Access course prepares you in a lot of ways. I still maintain Access was the hardest thing I ever did. If you didn't do Access you won't have this luxury but you can still prepare for Uni.

4.

The returning to academic life mindset: I can completely appreciate what you mean by this. Firstly find/make some kind of designated study space within your living space. Optimise this and make it distraction free and as productive as possible. A lot of this will be down to you as an individual because you have to do you but for example I bought a third monitor for my PC, I bought a really decent ergonomic keyboard and I bought some second hand (cheap) textbooks. Oh and my favourite thing in the whole world which I feel every student should have, a wooden bookstand so I can read a book at a comfortable eye level on my desk without having to look down or touch it. I can't remember where I got it, maybe from Waterstones or similar. That being said, I know a lot of Gen Z students don't touch textbooks meaning I'm probably simply old fashioned and like collecting books. I bought a combined cork/white board on my wall also. All my important dates and assignments were put on that at the outset of my Access course and the motivation I obtained from looking at the list and crossing them off was immense. I also found that partitioning my time in the week was useful in maintaining a timetable- I can't remember details but it was similar to: 'right, it's 5 pm, it's study time'. And then I'd get into my office and sit there and work. There are also a wealth of resources available as a student. The trick is setting things up ahead of time so you can be resourceful and juggle about and try things and see what suits you but it needs to be sorted within the first 2-3 weeks I would say. Finding the best study areas on campus (if applicable), the best libraries. Finding shortcuts to the online library, setting up reading lists in your browser, finding the best browser to manage a project, scouring reading lists if needed, the best journals applicable to your field etc etc. A lot of this can be set up or organised before your first lecture even starts. I found that having the things that interest me academically/intellectually about the course closely to hand helps maintain a steady pace and rhythm for study. It was not uncommon for me to have say an anatomy book open at all times on my desk even when studying something unrelated. In those moments where I needed to hit pause, I would read some anatomy instead. Instead of a complete diversion like scrolling Instgram or playing video games, it became a distraction of another kind that kept my focus. If you're going into radiography, you're going to be performing a lot of imaging and so it's logical you will develop an interest in similar areas. Maybe buy a second hand book on cross sectional anatomy so that you get the intellectual reward of being able to recognise basic structures on CT scans (cross sectional imaging of any kind is extremely complex to interpret).

5.

I know a lot of people who work during study. My life and commitments are not the same as theirs but certainly there are people who do this. You have to be organised and dedicated but it is do-able. I guess having a job that isn't too mentally demanding would be useful. Much will depend on the layout and timetabling of your course.

6.

I've never felt out of place whatsoever and I genuinely mean that. I'm fairly socially awkward so if anyone should feel out of place it should be me but it's not something I have ever noticed. University is a very board cohort of people and so people just meld together and get on with it. Everyone brings something unique to the party and I think the nature of most of University sort of obliges people to mature very rapidly. If you're going into healthcare you will be shoehorned into a pretty serious workplace very early on in your placements and so as a mature student you have an automatic advantage as well. Be sure to leverage that.

7.

The only disadvantage I've encountered is that I never participated in any social aspect of University. Sure, meet up and drink coffee or tea in a cafe but I never did the out at night or weekend thing but your circumstances may be different. I met a whole host of different people in various introductory forums in the welcome week. Be sure to attend these and find mature/semi-mature folks you can meet up with between lectures etc.

8.

I became disillusioned with the commercial realities of my previous line of work. I didn't have the interest any longer, my passion for it had waned and it was starting to not love me back, either. There was once a time where the prospect of going to work on a Monday would get me to the edge of excitement and I'd almost have Christmas eve levels of sleep disturbance because of the anticipation and enjoyment I got from it. That went away and I was being loaded with more and more responsibility despite a complete lack of training meaning it began taking far more than I could give long term. I couldn't see it was going to change and I didn't know how I could even begin to approach the subject or trying to change things. I then had a change in circumstances which meant I could give it all up and pursue interest I had held since my childhood, so I said to myself, why not? Closely followed by, how do I start?

Reply 3

Original post
by ErasistratusV
I can answer some of these. Years out of education, followed by Access course and then into medicine.

1.

I didn't go from zero to University in one step. I had a prior degree (STEM) but completed that years before. My A levels were largely ineffectual due to my family circumstances at the time which I won't go into here.

2.

I didn't do a foundation year, but I know people who have completed them and in the main it does prepare you nicely for year 1. You'll be familiar with the content which helps in of itself but the main bonus is in having your study methodology already ingrained. Degree can be very different from A level study in this respect.

3.

Yes, I did some preparation before University, the Access course prepares you in a lot of ways. I still maintain Access was the hardest thing I ever did. If you didn't do Access you won't have this luxury but you can still prepare for Uni.

4.

The returning to academic life mindset: I can completely appreciate what you mean by this. Firstly find/make some kind of designated study space within your living space. Optimise this and make it distraction free and as productive as possible. A lot of this will be down to you as an individual because you have to do you but for example I bought a third monitor for my PC, I bought a really decent ergonomic keyboard and I bought some second hand (cheap) textbooks. Oh and my favourite thing in the whole world which I feel every student should have, a wooden bookstand so I can read a book at a comfortable eye level on my desk without having to look down or touch it. I can't remember where I got it, maybe from Waterstones or similar. That being said, I know a lot of Gen Z students don't touch textbooks meaning I'm probably simply old fashioned and like collecting books. I bought a combined cork/white board on my wall also. All my important dates and assignments were put on that at the outset of my Access course and the motivation I obtained from looking at the list and crossing them off was immense. I also found that partitioning my time in the week was useful in maintaining a timetable- I can't remember details but it was similar to: 'right, it's 5 pm, it's study time'. And then I'd get into my office and sit there and work. There are also a wealth of resources available as a student. The trick is setting things up ahead of time so you can be resourceful and juggle about and try things and see what suits you but it needs to be sorted within the first 2-3 weeks I would say. Finding the best study areas on campus (if applicable), the best libraries. Finding shortcuts to the online library, setting up reading lists in your browser, finding the best browser to manage a project, scouring reading lists if needed, the best journals applicable to your field etc etc. A lot of this can be set up or organised before your first lecture even starts. I found that having the things that interest me academically/intellectually about the course closely to hand helps maintain a steady pace and rhythm for study. It was not uncommon for me to have say an anatomy book open at all times on my desk even when studying something unrelated. In those moments where I needed to hit pause, I would read some anatomy instead. Instead of a complete diversion like scrolling Instgram or playing video games, it became a distraction of another kind that kept my focus. If you're going into radiography, you're going to be performing a lot of imaging and so it's logical you will develop an interest in similar areas. Maybe buy a second hand book on cross sectional anatomy so that you get the intellectual reward of being able to recognise basic structures on CT scans (cross sectional imaging of any kind is extremely complex to interpret).

5.

I know a lot of people who work during study. My life and commitments are not the same as theirs but certainly there are people who do this. You have to be organised and dedicated but it is do-able. I guess having a job that isn't too mentally demanding would be useful. Much will depend on the layout and timetabling of your course.

6.

I've never felt out of place whatsoever and I genuinely mean that. I'm fairly socially awkward so if anyone should feel out of place it should be me but it's not something I have ever noticed. University is a very board cohort of people and so people just meld together and get on with it. Everyone brings something unique to the party and I think the nature of most of University sort of obliges people to mature very rapidly. If you're going into healthcare you will be shoehorned into a pretty serious workplace very early on in your placements and so as a mature student you have an automatic advantage as well. Be sure to leverage that.

7.

The only disadvantage I've encountered is that I never participated in any social aspect of University. Sure, meet up and drink coffee or tea in a cafe but I never did the out at night or weekend thing but your circumstances may be different. I met a whole host of different people in various introductory forums in the welcome week. Be sure to attend these and find mature/semi-mature folks you can meet up with between lectures etc.

8.

I became disillusioned with the commercial realities of my previous line of work. I didn't have the interest any longer, my passion for it had waned and it was starting to not love me back, either. There was once a time where the prospect of going to work on a Monday would get me to the edge of excitement and I'd almost have Christmas eve levels of sleep disturbance because of the anticipation and enjoyment I got from it. That went away and I was being loaded with more and more responsibility despite a complete lack of training meaning it began taking far more than I could give long term. I couldn't see it was going to change and I didn't know how I could even begin to approach the subject or trying to change things. I then had a change in circumstances which meant I could give it all up and pursue interest I had held since my childhood, so I said to myself, why not? Closely followed by, how do I start?


Appreciate all the answer, it’s been very insightful!

Also appreciate you sharing your story on why you chose to return to education. Well done and your commitment is admirable. Do you mind sharing what age you went back to university to retrain?

Do you think if I’m someone who hasn’t done maths/science for like 10th years I will be able to manage the workload? Is there any sort of specific topics you’d recommended going over the summer in preparation for Foundation Years in a health science course?

Thank you in advance.

Loved
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Reply 4

Original post
by Yisayuu
Appreciate all the answer, it’s been very insightful!
Also appreciate you sharing your story on why you chose to return to education. Well done and your commitment is admirable. Do you mind sharing what age you went back to university to retrain?
Do you think if I’m someone who hasn’t done maths/science for like 10th years I will be able to manage the workload? Is there any sort of specific topics you’d recommended going over the summer in preparation for Foundation Years in a health science course?
Thank you in advance.
Loved

My own age isn't particularly relevant: I know people who changed their direction and went to study various other courses at the age of 50 and beyond. One person I know of started a medical degree aged 51. I've since met a host of mature students all about 24-46 who are all doing their thing, and, in the main, I would say as a cohort of people, they really know how to knuckle down and hit harder academically than would be average, although that is only my perception of things.

I wouldn't say this is because they are more enthusiastic or more intelligent or gifted or maybe just less economically constrained than younger students, I just think it might be because people who have had long term exposure to the workplace will automatically approach their studies in the same way as they would work. I guess for most of them it's just another kind of 9-5 'job'. That is how I approach it myself. Turn up early, achieve what I need to achieve and head home when I can to get in front of the computer again and churn through some more content or revise.

As to aptitude regarding maths/physics/chem/bio and time out of education it will be very specific to the individual, their comfort with these subjects and what sort of work they were involved with. I was in a pretty technical job but I would say I really did benefit from the Maths, English and Sciences refresher which was all part and parcel of my access course. I mean if you haven't even read a physics textbook for 5-10 years it's likely it won't be very familiar if you suddenly entered a degree course involving it.

The admissions team, course representatives and academic support staff will be able to advise the specifics of any course you might be interested in. If they recommend you start in a foundation year, then you'd be wise to consider doing that. It's not in their interests to see people struggle or fail, they want to see people flourish.

There are lots of private A level or similar tutors or people out there offering remedial Maths and English courses etc designed specifically for mature learners. Your local FE college will be able to put you in contact with them I would guess. Getting the reading list for the first semester or year of your prospective course can give insight into the level of detail that might be involved and you can determine any learning needs ahead of time.

All that having been said, a lot of students fresh out of A levels are out for a good time (and rightly so) in their first year of Uni and will balance studying with their first time away from home and a heck of a lot of socialising. Everything is do-able with some effort and dedication.

Reply 5

Original post
by Yisayuu
Hi, I have some questions for fellow mature students. Ideally I would love to hear from those who took a significant break from education (5+ years) and didn’t take science A-levels, but later pursued a science-focused degree.
A bit of info: I got high grades in all 3 sciences at GCSE but that was 10 years ago. I’m going to uni to study Diagnostic Radiography. As I didn’t take any science A-levels (I achieved 4 A-levels in Humanities or Social Science subjects) I’ll be doing a foundation year.
No need to answer all, any input is appreciated 😊.
1) How difficult did you find returning to studying something science-related after a long break on a scale of 1~10?
2) Did you do a foundation year and if yes, did you find Year 0 hard? Did it prepare the groundwork knowledge needed for Year 1?
3) Did you do any reading or prep before starting university? Would you recommend brushing up on basics in advance of starting, or is it better not to stress and just focus once the course begins/when you’re given topics to learn?
4) Any tips for getting back into the academic mindset? I’ve been working for the past few years, so I’m trying to mentally shift back into student mode.
5) Did you work part-time while studying? If so, how did you manage balancing a full-time course with a part-time job?
6) As a mature student, did you ever feel ‘out of place’ in lectures/seminars/societies/halls? Especially when surrounded by school leavers?
7) What advantages or disadvantages did you notice about going to university later in life?
8) Out of interest, what made you choose to return to education after all this time? Thank you kindly!

Hi, like others, I can't answer all your questions but also happy to help :smile:

1) How difficult did you find returning to studying something science-related after a long break on a scale of 1~10?
So I did Biology A level but it was over 15 years ago and I flunked bad and dropped out. But I returned back into education this year doing an access course. I will be honest I have found it very difficult but not in the terms of learning, more in the respect of balancing studying with adult life. I am not at uni, so haven't done a foundation year but I am considering it once I've finished my course.

3) Did you do any reading or prep before starting university? So access courses are the equivalent of A levels but I joined last minute so had little time to prep before starting but I did purchase an online IGCSE human biology course which I found quite useful even just for the basics which I've used quite alot.

4) Any tips for getting back into the academic mindset? I’ve been working for the past few years, so I’m trying to mentally shift back into student mode. This is the part I struggled with as the last decade or so of my life has revolved around works. I'm the majority of the way through my first of two years and what I must say is make sure you make time for yourself if you're still gonna work. I timetabled my life and essentially it was work then study, work then study. You burn out extremely fast and, in one instance, I couldn't even get an assignment in on time even though I had done all the research I could. Also, don't beat yourself up if you deviate from your plan but rearrange and remember to have down time.

5) Did you work part-time while studying? I am the opposite, I work full time and study part time.

6) As a mature student, did you ever feel ‘out of place’ in lectures/seminars/societies/halls? Especially when surrounded by school leavers? Whilst access courses are for adults, they are open from 19+ and the majority of my course is probably 19-mid 20's. I think there's only 4 of us over the age of 30. We all get on well, age tends to not even really be mentioned however I know when I've struggled with the work/study balance, I've felt a little disjointed talking about it as many still live at home and don't understand having to work and pay bills.

8) Out of interest, what made you choose to return to education after all this time? Boredom of working a minimum wage job I'd done since leaving college with no career prospects. Struggling to pay my bills. Bored of not using my brain.

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