12 year old murderer sentenced to 60 years Watch

This discussion is closed.
NDGAARONDI
Badges: 14
Rep:
?
#141
Report 14 years ago
#141
No idea if this has been mentioned before but the US Supreme Court on Tuesday 1st March 2005 has ruled that capital punishment for crimes committed before the age of 18 is now outlawed.

Sources:

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/htm..._scotus02.html
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main...2/ixworld.html
http://news.scotsman.com/international.cfm?id=229852005
http://news.independent.co.uk/world/...p?story=615959

Any thoughts?
0
psychic_satori
Badges: 1
Rep:
?
#142
Report 14 years ago
#142
(Original post by NDGAARONDI)
No idea if this has been mentioned before but the US Supreme Court on Tuesday 1st March 2005 has ruled that capital punishment for crimes committed before the age of 18 is now outlawed.

Sources:

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/htm..._scotus02.html
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main...2/ixworld.html
http://news.scotsman.com/international.cfm?id=229852005
http://news.independent.co.uk/world/...p?story=615959

Any thoughts?
I think its ridiculous.
0
Howard
Badges: 3
Rep:
?
#143
Report 14 years ago
#143
(Original post by psychic_satori)
I think its ridiculous.
Here's what I think.

Firstly I'm bound to say that I find the idea that you can murder someone on the last day of your eighteenth year and get life imprisonment and on the first day of your nineteenth year and get executed absurd. What's a day?

Now I'm pro-death personally. However I do think the USSC made the right decision. Their sole purpose is after all to interpret the constitution. The 8th provides against "cruel and unusual punishments" Now if someone under 18 is legally considered a minor then it must follow that it is cruel and unusual to execute a minor. The USSC did their job however ridiculous I personally think it is.
0
NDGAARONDI
Badges: 14
Rep:
?
#144
Report 14 years ago
#144
(Original post by Howard)
What's a day?
You have to draw the line somewhere.
0
Made in the USA
Badges: 11
Rep:
?
#145
Report 14 years ago
#145
(Original post by NDGAARONDI)
You have to draw the line somewhere.
I'd rather have the jury draw that line.
0
psychic_satori
Badges: 1
Rep:
?
#146
Report 14 years ago
#146
(Original post by Howard)
Now I'm pro-death personally. However I do think the USSC made the right decision. Their sole purpose is after all to interpret the constitution. The 8th provides against "cruel and unusual punishments" Now if someone under 18 is legally considered a minor then it must follow that it is cruel and unusual to execute a minor. The USSC did their job however ridiculous I personally think it is.
The problem with that line of thought, though, is that someone under 18 can be tried as an adult. In fact, that is the only time when the death penalty is viable. It's a cop out, if you ask me...
0
Howard
Badges: 3
Rep:
?
#147
Report 14 years ago
#147
(Original post by psychic_satori)
The problem with that line of thought, though, is that someone under 18 can be tried as an adult. In fact, that is the only time when the death penalty is viable. It's a cop out, if you ask me...
Then I tend to share your opinion. Very good point; one I'd overlooked. In that case the USSC should make trial as an adult under the age of 18 unconstitutional in the interests of consistent law. Otherwise I'd say you have a very good argument that they've got it wrong.
0
Haras Sarah
Badges: 0
Rep:
?
#148
Report 14 years ago
#148
If he had severe depression his sentence should have been reduced to manslaughter or just in sentence, but if he just had depression that would not be an adequate defence to murder! In the english legal sentence under DR if three tests were satisfied it may have been reduced to manslaughter but only if it was severe depression, there is a big difference between severe and normal depression; just cos he was on anti-depressants does not mean it was severe!
All murderers should be punished, not by death, but by prison; but maybe if he did have a severe mental disorder he should be in a mental institution; a murderer (that is not self-defence) should not be let lose until they are rehabilitated!
God, I babble, but my dad had severe depression so I know a bit about it; although its symptoms can vary from person to person!
There is worse injustices then this though; i.e. Stephen L's killer's not being brought to justice!
0
NDGAARONDI
Badges: 14
Rep:
?
#149
Report 14 years ago
#149
(Original post by Haras Sarah)
There is worse injustices then this though; i.e. Stephen L's killer's not being brought to justice!
Ummm there are worse ones than that so e.g. not i.e.
0
Howard
Badges: 3
Rep:
?
#150
Report 14 years ago
#150
[QUOTE=Haras Sarah]If he had severe depression his sentence should have been reduced to manslaughter or just in sentence, but if he just had depression that would not be an adequate defence to murder! In the english legal sentence under DR if three tests were satisfied it may have been reduced.........[/QUOTE]

What are you talking about? This case is in America, not England.
0
X
new posts
Back
to top
Latest
My Feed

See more of what you like on
The Student Room

You can personalise what you see on TSR. Tell us a little about yourself to get started.

Personalise

Have you made up your mind on your five uni choices?

Yes I know where I'm applying (154)
59.46%
No I haven't decided yet (60)
23.17%
Yes but I might change my mind (45)
17.37%

Watched Threads

View All