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Maths further

Getting 7s in mocks but believe I got an 8 in gcse maths, is that enough to think about further.

Reply 1

This depends on you as an individual.
Broadly, i would say that someone working at a 7 who might have started working harder to prep for the gcse or who had some luck on topics in the paper and received an 8 which not be the best candidate to take further maths. The reason i say this is because its a very difficult course and to take it generally you’d be expected to be working consistently at a grade 8 level.
That being said, it is very dependant on you as an individual. What other subjects are you taking? Is maths a subject you find it easy or difficult to learn and revise? What do you want to do after a levels? Would this be a fourth which you could potentially drop?

Reply 2

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by DerDracologe
This depends on you as an individual.
Broadly, i would say that someone working at a 7 who might have started working harder to prep for the gcse or who had some luck on topics in the paper and received an 8 which not be the best candidate to take further maths. The reason i say this is because its a very difficult course and to take it generally you’d be expected to be working consistently at a grade 8 level.
That being said, it is very dependant on you as an individual. What other subjects are you taking? Is maths a subject you find it easy or difficult to learn and revise? What do you want to do after a levels? Would this be a fourth which you could potentially drop?


I’m thinking of taking further as an As-level, along with maths, economics and history. Trying to do an economics degree.

Reply 3

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by DerDracologe
This depends on you as an individual.
Broadly, i would say that someone working at a 7 who might have started working harder to prep for the gcse or who had some luck on topics in the paper and received an 8 which not be the best candidate to take further maths. The reason i say this is because its a very difficult course and to take it generally you’d be expected to be working consistently at a grade 8 level.
That being said, it is very dependant on you as an individual. What other subjects are you taking? Is maths a subject you find it easy or difficult to learn and revise? What do you want to do after a levels? Would this be a fourth which you could potentially drop?


I really like enjoy maths, and I do find it a good subject to revise, but I hear that it’s crazy hard, I just don’t want to waste my time on it though.

Reply 4

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by Harry Millington
I really like enjoy maths, and I do find it a good subject to revise, but I hear that it’s crazy hard, I just don’t want to waste my time on it though.

Well if you enjoy revising it and the extra work you have to put in, then I would say it's a good subject choice.

Reply 5

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by Harry Millington
I’m thinking of taking further as an As-level, along with maths, economics and history. Trying to do an economics degree.

Unless you want to go to Cambridge, Imperial, UCL, LSE and to a lesser extent Durham and Warwick, further maths is not strictly necessary. However, you are right that it will help your chances anywhere. For the top unis I mentioned, A level further vs AS would be preferable.

Reply 6

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by DerDracologe
This depends on you as an individual.
Broadly, i would say that someone working at a 7 who might have started working harder to prep for the gcse or who had some luck on topics in the paper and received an 8 which not be the best candidate to take further maths. The reason i say this is because its a very difficult course and to take it generally you’d be expected to be working consistently at a grade 8 level.
That being said, it is very dependant on you as an individual. What other subjects are you taking? Is maths a subject you find it easy or difficult to learn and revise? What do you want to do after a levels? Would this be a fourth which you could potentially drop?

Do you think getting an 8 in gcse maths (despite aiming for a 9), a 9 in gcse fm and an A in fsmq is good enough to consider taking further maths and studying maths at uni? I’d have to retake gcse maths to get a 9 since my schl only lets people with a 9 in maths do fm. I did badly on paper 3 and 2 maths since I was feeling quite ill and I estimate I ended up with around 190/240.

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by lizziii
Do you think getting an 8 in gcse maths (despite aiming for a 9), a 9 in gcse fm and an A in fsmq is good enough to consider taking further maths and studying maths at uni? I’d have to retake gcse maths to get a 9 since my schl only lets people with a 9 in maths do fm. I did badly on paper 3 and 2 maths since I was feeling quite ill and I estimate I ended up with around 190/200.

I mean you got a 9 on gcse FM - which has quite a bit of AS content - so surely it was an anomaly that you got an 8 in gcse maths, considering you achieved a 9 at higher level maths, and so your gcse maths grade is not indicative of your actual level of ability? So yes, it is enough

Reply 8

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by Harry Millington
I’m thinking of taking further as an As-level, along with maths, economics and history. Trying to do an economics degree.

Further maths is a good subject to take for economics. I would suggest that you take it and then if it becomes too difficult you could always delay taking the as exams until the end of year 13 or drop it completely.

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by Harry Millington
I really like enjoy maths, and I do find it a good subject to revise, but I hear that it’s crazy hard, I just don’t want to waste my time on it though.

Enjoying maths and not finding it difficulty or unpleasant to revise is a good indicator that further maths could be a good option for you 🙂 Whether it is a waste of time for you really depends on whether you think youll benefit from taking it

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by lizziii
Do you think getting an 8 in gcse maths (despite aiming for a 9), a 9 in gcse fm and an A in fsmq is good enough to consider taking further maths and studying maths at uni? I’d have to retake gcse maths to get a 9 since my schl only lets people with a 9 in maths do fm. I did badly on paper 3 and 2 maths since I was feeling quite ill and I estimate I ended up with around 190/240.

Yes absolutely, it sounds like maths is a great strength for you! Perhaps you could appeal to your school and ask them if they could make an exception based on your other grades if the worst comes to the worst on results day.

Reply 9

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by isaac123444566
I mean you got a 9 on gcse FM - which has quite a bit of AS content - so surely it was an anomaly that you got an 8 in gcse maths, considering you achieved a 9 at higher level maths, and so your gcse maths grade is not indicative of your actual level of ability? So yes, it is enough

yes, I just had bad luck on the exam day I guess, basically at death’s door yesterday. But I really want to go to Cambridge so I know I need to take further maths, and also I probably definitely need a 9 in maths. I think I can manage a level further maths since I’ve covered a decent chunk of a level maths independently last year and this year. how badly is retaking and getting a 9 perceived by Cambridge admissions?

Reply 10

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by lizziii
yes, I just had bad luck on the exam day I guess, basically at death’s door yesterday. But I really want to go to Cambridge so I know I need to take further maths, and also I probably definitely need a 9 in maths. I think I can manage a level further maths since I’ve covered a decent chunk of a level maths independently last year and this year. how badly is retaking and getting a 9 perceived by Cambridge admissions?

Really not that bad - you have valid extenuating circumstances and they honestly don't care that much about one bad grade which is clearly justified. Just out of interest, what have you covered for a level maths? I've been learning AS content (think i've almost finished pure) because I don't have the options for further maths GCSE at my school

Reply 11

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by Harry Millington
Getting 7s in mocks but believe I got an 8 in gcse maths, is that enough to think about further.

Yes, but make sure you continue to work on core topics during the summer to get up to a consistent grade 8/9 standard. You should only take FM if you really like maths, but assuming you do, it's worth it. If you do take it, take it as a 4th A-Level at first so you have the option to drop it and only do the AS exam if necessary.

Reply 12

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by isaac123444566
Really not that bad - you have valid extenuating circumstances and they honestly don't care that much about one bad grade which is clearly justified. Just out of interest, what have you covered for a level maths? I've been learning AS content (think i've almost finished pure) because I don't have the options for further maths GCSE at my school

i mean, i'd usually agree about one bad grade not mattering, but it is gcse maths for maths at cambridge haha. i suppose there's nothing i can really do except beat myself up + retake for a 9 though. i guess i also skipped a year of school so hopefully they'll look upon my grades more kindly? do you think I should explain it in my ps or would they think I'm covering it up?

in as-level, i've done the fm and fsmq stuff, which is about 80% of as level, the rest being stats which I didn't do. for a level maths I think I've covered a level integration and differentiation (i'm not sure what's what but I've covered integ by parts, diff equations, trig diff and implicit diff). also some proof writing (mostly bcs i'm hoping to do well at the olympiad in yr12) modulus, parametric equations, cosec sec cot and r addition formulas. i haven't touched statistics at all because I really kind of hate it lmao.

Reply 13

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by lizziii
i mean, i'd usually agree about one bad grade not mattering, but it is gcse maths for maths at cambridge haha. i suppose there's nothing i can really do except beat myself up + retake for a 9 though. i guess i also skipped a year of school so hopefully they'll look upon my grades more kindly? do you think I should explain it in my ps or would they think I'm covering it up?
in as-level, i've done the fm and fsmq stuff, which is about 80% of as level, the rest being stats which I didn't do. for a level maths I think I've covered a level integration and differentiation (i'm not sure what's what but I've covered integ by parts, diff equations, trig diff and implicit diff). also some proof writing (mostly bcs i'm hoping to do well at the olympiad in yr12) modulus, parametric equations, cosec sec cot and r addition formulas. i haven't touched statistics at all because I really kind of hate it lmao.

please do not write it in your ps, trust me. fill out the extenuating circumstances form, you'll be absolutely fine.

wow fairs lol you've done way more than me - well done lmao that's really impressive
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Reply 14

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by isaac123444566
please do not write it in your ps, trust me. fill out the extenuating circumstances form, you'll be absolutely fine.
wow fairs lol you've done way more than me - well done lmao that's really impressive

well let's hope i guess. what's an extenuating circumstances form btw? is there a time period to fill that out in and do I need evidence?

don't be impressed, i literally spend all day locked in my room bcs i have zero social life so i have basically nothing to do except study, which really just makes not getting a maths 9 embarassing for me lmao. i also tend to neglect subjects i don't like so i kind of failed french..

Reply 15

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by lizziii
well let's hope i guess. what's an extenuating circumstances form btw? is there a time period to fill that out in and do I need evidence?
don't be impressed, i literally spend all day locked in my room bcs i have zero social life so i have basically nothing to do except study, which really just makes not getting a maths 9 embarassing for me lmao. i also tend to neglect subjects i don't like so i kind of failed french..

an extenuating circumstances form is just a form you fill out with your application to say why you didn't do as well as you could've done

oh i'm sorry 😭 why don't you like join a club or a sport or something

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