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Worried about uni costs

Hi, so ive firmed going to a London uni and now im starting to get pretty scared if I get the grades and do end up going. Its been my dream to live in London for a while but now im seeing people especially in second year basically saying the finance isn't enough to afford to eat, rent etc. For context I am from Wales I get the min student finance with student fiance Wales + the grant they give us which I think is 1k (and u get a little more for London). I do plan on working as much as I can and I know my parents can support me if needs be but I dont want to be in the position where im constantly begging for help if you get me? If anyone has experience living in London for uni without a big trust fund and on the min finance or just insight on cost of living issues id really appreciate it. My insurance is in the north so I know id be a bit better off financially there but again ive put all my work into the prospect of being able to move to London after spending my life in a lovely but tiny welsh town.

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Reply 1

I commute from home in London but have friends who live in and so could offer some advice.

Just a question. It is my understanding of SFW that you get a small grant and a large loan. Looking at the website, it suggests you would get £15,000 in total for living costs. Have I understood that correctly or are you choosing to only have the grant?
https://www.studentfinancewales.co.uk/undergraduate-finance/full-time/tuition-fee-and-living-cost-students/what-s-available/

Reply 2

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Original post by Anonymous
Hi, so ive firmed going to a London uni and now im starting to get pretty scared if I get the grades and do end up going. Its been my dream to live in London for a while but now im seeing people especially in second year basically saying the finance isn't enough to afford to eat, rent etc. For context I am from Wales I get the min student finance with student fiance Wales + the grant they give us which I think is 1k (and u get a little more for London). I do plan on working as much as I can and I know my parents can support me if needs be but I dont want to be in the position where im constantly begging for help if you get me? If anyone has experience living in London for uni without a big trust fund and on the min finance or just insight on cost of living issues id really appreciate it. My insurance is in the north so I know id be a bit better off financially there but again ive put all my work into the prospect of being able to move to London after spending my life in a lovely but tiny welsh town.


What country are these people from (when they say that student finance is not enough from living)? Because you getting £14K in maintenance loan is vastly different to the average Englishman, Scot or Irishman who's likely getting nowhere near that much money (i'm talking about a maintenance loan that probably won't even cover basic accommodation rent in London). So that might skew things a bit in terms of things being unaffordable.

Do you have an approximate estimate of your accommodation and transport costs? Then we can use Maths to work things out.
(edited 3 weeks ago)

Reply 4

Original post by CatLover1
I commute from home in London but have friends who live in and so could offer some advice.
Just a question. It is my understanding of SFW that you get a small grant and a large loan. Looking at the website, it suggests you would get £15,000 in total for living costs. Have I understood that correctly or are you choosing to only have the grant?
https://www.studentfinancewales.co.uk/undergraduate-finance/full-time/tuition-fee-and-living-cost-students/what-s-available/


total is 14,415 for me :smile:

Reply 5

Original post by Anonymous
total is 14,415 for me :smile:

The absolute max that an English student can get living in London away from home is £13,762. That will be families earning less than £20,000 a year. For those with a family earning £60,000 (2 parents each earning £30,000, could be with a mortgage) would get about £6,800 I'm not sure on ths specifics.

With seeing people who are struggling to live in London, are they from Wales with SFW finance or are they from England/Scotland/Northern Ireland where there is much less financial support?

If you are worried about affording London with £14-15,000 a year, I recommend working out your budget.
How much does your accommodation cost? (You may have to pay utilities separately (especially in 2nd and 3rd year)
How much does travel cost?
How much would food cost in London (likely to be more expensive in Wales)?
What part time job can you get (uni work pays better but has less hours)?

You can also try and get a part time job over the summer for savings.

However, a lot of England students (I don't know about Scotland and Northern Ireland) live on £7,000 max with limited if any parental support as student finance does not take into account expenses or other children. London has people from both sides of the spectrum (those whose families earn very little and have max maintenance (obviously doesn't mean they are rich), those whose families earn £60,000 so kids have min maintenance but families cannot afford top up, kids on min maintenance but have parents who can top up to £13,000, and very rich international students.

I recommend having a detailed look at your finances and making a budget (when you have finished your exams).

Also, good luck for your exams.
(edited 3 weeks ago)

Reply 6

In terms of tips for affording to live in London, other people will be able to share other advice (there are lots of threads about it), I recommend sign-up to Student Beans, Unidays, and Too Good to Go. They give you offers and discounts for food and more.

Try and pick an accommodation contract that is only as long as your course (i.e. don't get a 51 week contract if you are not doing nursing and/or not wanting to go home).

Make use of meal prepping and freeze meals. You can make a large batch with on offer food including meat and freeze portions to have at other points (also means you are likely to eat healthier). If you have a good relationship with your flatmates, you could do an online food order together so there is no delivery fee etc.

Get a 16-25 Railcard (£30 a year) and an Oyster card (£7). You can pair the railcard with the Oyster card and get 30% discount on tube off peak (after 9.30am and before 4pm and after 7pm). Off peak is also much cheaper. You can get an 18+ oyster card, but this isn't really work it unless you are travelling a lot so you travel enough for discounted travelcards to make sense (you need to be using £15 on TfL each day).

You can get coaches to Wales instead of trains or coaches anywhere (there are discounts for students).

In Year 2, you can move into a flat with housemates with can make it cheaper (but you need to look stupidly early, like November).

I hope these help you/anyone.

Reply 7

Original post by CatLover1
The absolute max that an English student can get living in London away from home is £13,762. That will be families earning less than £20,000 a year. For those with a family earning £60,000 (2 parents each earning £30,000, could be with a mortgage) would get about £6,800 I'm not sure on ths specifics.
With seeing people who are struggling to live in London, are they from Wales with SFW finance or are they from England/Scotland/Northern Ireland where there is much less financial support?
If you are worried about affording London with £14-15,000 a year, I recommend working out your budget.
How much does your accommodation cost? (You may have to pay utilities separately (especially in 2nd and 3rd year)
How much does travel cost?
How much would food cost in London (likely to be more expensive in Wales)?
What part time job can you get (uni work pays better but has less hours)?
You can also try and get a part time job over the summer for savings.
However, a lot of England students (I don't know about Scotland and Northern Ireland) live on £7,000 max with limited if any parental support as student finance does not take into account expenses or other children. London has people from both sides of the spectrum (those whose families earn very little and have max maintenance (obviously doesn't mean they are rich), those whose families earn £60,000 so kids have min maintenance but families cannot afford top up, kids on min maintenance but have parents who can top up to £13,000, and very rich international students.
I recommend having a detailed look at your finances and making a budget (when you have finished your exams).
Also, good luck for your exams.

For a bit of context to anyone interested how it works in Wales is we all get the same amount however depending on your home income the difference between what you pay back changed so as the home income increases the grant decreases and the amount you have to pay back increases - its a good system in my opinion! I'll definitely sort a budget my friends dad works in finance and will help me with it if I need im also definitely considering work whatever uni I go to especially if I go to London I love working in hospitality! Thank you for the advice with everything Im guessing the people ive seen who are really struggling are those you've mentioned who have SFE instead of SFW. Thanks so much again I'll be able to figure it out :smile:

Reply 8

Original post by CatLover1
In terms of tips for affording to live in London, other people will be able to share other advice (there are lots of threads about it), I recommend sign-up to Student Beans, Unidays, and Too Good to Go. They give you offers and discounts for food and more.
Try and pick an accommodation contract that is only as long as your course (i.e. don't get a 51 week contract if you are not doing nursing and/or not wanting to go home).
Make use of meal prepping and freeze meals. You can make a large batch with on offer food including meat and freeze portions to have at other points (also means you are likely to eat healthier). If you have a good relationship with your flatmates, you could do an online food order together so there is no delivery fee etc.
Get a 16-25 Railcard (£30 a year) and an Oyster card (£7). You can pair the railcard with the Oyster card and get 30% discount on tube off peak (after 9.30am and before 4pm and after 7pm). Off peak is also much cheaper. You can get an 18+ oyster card, but this isn't really work it unless you are travelling a lot so you travel enough for discounted travelcards to make sense (you need to be using £15 on TfL each day).
You can get coaches to Wales instead of trains or coaches anywhere (there are discounts for students).
In Year 2, you can move into a flat with housemates with can make it cheaper (but you need to look stupidly early, like November).
I hope these help you/anyone.

This was super helpful thanks! I can cook so won't want/need to order in and meal prep is a good idea (minus the meat im veggie haha) Im going to look at student bank accounts that have some perks come results day and ill 100% look into all the helpful apps you mentioned. Much appreciated have a great day :smile:

Reply 9

Original post by Talkative Toad
What country are these people from (when they say that student finance is not enough from living)? Because you getting £14K in maintenance loan is vastly different to the average Englishman, Scot or Irishman who's likely getting nowhere near that much money (i'm talking about a maintenance loan that probably won't even cover basic accommodation rent in London). So that might skew things a bit in terms of things being unaffordable.
Do you have an approximate estimate of your accommodation and transport costs? Then we can use Maths to work things out.

This thread has made me realise im probably reading info from students in a different position with loans so my stress was probably a bit uncalled for my accomodation is about £240 a week which is pretty insane but was actually one of the cheapest and it works out better because im right next to campus there so less travel costs and they have got a gym so no need to get a subscription! It might also be worth mentioning I am having a disability meeting soon while I dont need many accomodations hopefully things like printing (I tend to need things on paper) will be covered as well as anything else they deem necessary, due to my disability I will be walking/biking as much as I can as I struggle with public transport which is an annoying money saver haha. Once its confirmed that im going as I need AAA which im not sure if ill achieve or not (fingers crossed) ill work out the maths, draw up a budget and will probs hop back on TSR! thanks so much 🙂
Original post by Anonymous
This thread has made me realise im probably reading info from students in a different position with loans so my stress was probably a bit uncalled for my accomodation is about £240 a week which is pretty insane but was actually one of the cheapest and it works out better because im right next to campus there so less travel costs and they have got a gym so no need to get a subscription! It might also be worth mentioning I am having a disability meeting soon while I dont need many accomodations hopefully things like printing (I tend to need things on paper) will be covered as well as anything else they deem necessary, due to my disability I will be walking/biking as much as I can as I struggle with public transport which is an annoying money saver haha. Once its confirmed that im going as I need AAA which im not sure if ill achieve or not (fingers crossed) ill work out the maths, draw up a budget and will probs hop back on TSR! thanks so much 🙂


How long is your contract? Also thank you for giving the cost of the accommodation, it helps a lot.

Assuming that it’s 39 weeks long with bills included:

Accommodation: £240x39= £9360

Money left after accommodation: £14415-£9360= £5055

Money for term time (assuming that you can go back home): £5055/9= £561.67p

If that £5055 is for 12 months: £5055/12=£421.25p

£561.67 or £421.25 a month is more than enough for me to live on without needing to get a job or parental support. Plus your parents are like mine and are willing to help (it means, at least for me that any money that I make from working can go straight into savings, yes every penny). I’m not budgeting either but I also don’t drink (I eat out often though), spend a crazy amount on public transport etc
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Reply 11

Original post by Talkative Toad
How long is your contract? Also thank you for giving the cost of the accommodation, it helps a lot.
Assuming that it’s 39 weeks long with bills included:
Accommodation: £240x39= £9360
Money left after accommodation: £14415-£9360= £5055
Money for term time (assuming that you can go back home): £5055/9= £561.67p
If that £5055 is for 12 months: £5055/12=£421.25p
£561.67 or £421.25 a month is more than enough for me to live on without needing to get a job or parental support. Plus your parents are like mine and are willing to help (it means, at least for me that any money that I make from working can go straight into savings, yes every penny). I’m not budgeting either but I also don’t drink (I eat out often though), spend a crazy amount on public transport etc


thanks so much for this im 99% sure its 39 weeks again this is all dependent if i actually get in so i dont want to curse myself😂 anyway im sure ill be fine after reading all of this thanks for ur help :smile:

Reply 12

Original post by CatLover1
Get a 16-25 Railcard (£30 a year)


Just a minor correction: the railcard now costs £35 per year. (The price went up in September 2024, but had been £30 for several years before that.)

There's also a three-year version that costs £80.

Reply 13

Original post by Anonymous
Hi, so ive firmed going to a London uni and now im starting to get pretty scared if I get the grades and do end up going. Its been my dream to live in London for a while but now im seeing people especially in second year basically saying the finance isn't enough to afford to eat, rent etc. For context I am from Wales I get the min student finance with student fiance Wales + the grant they give us which I think is 1k (and u get a little more for London). I do plan on working as much as I can and I know my parents can support me if needs be but I dont want to be in the position where im constantly begging for help if you get me? If anyone has experience living in London for uni without a big trust fund and on the min finance or just insight on cost of living issues id really appreciate it. My insurance is in the north so I know id be a bit better off financially there but again ive put all my work into the prospect of being able to move to London after spending my life in a lovely but tiny welsh town.

Congrats on getting into a London uni that’s amazing! It’s totally normal to feel nervous, especially about money, but lots of students manage on minimum finance with part-time work and careful budgeting. You’ll get a bit extra for living in London, and things like student discounts, cooking at home, and shared housing can really help. It’s great that your parents can support you if needed, but don’t feel bad if you have to lean on them sometimes that’s what they’re there for. If London’s been your dream, don’t let fear hold you back. For the actual move, check out Superman with a Van they’re cheap and reliable, especially for students. You've got this!

Reply 14

Original post by Anonymous
Hi, so ive firmed going to a London uni and now im starting to get pretty scared if I get the grades and do end up going. Its been my dream to live in London for a while but now im seeing people especially in second year basically saying the finance isn't enough to afford to eat, rent etc. For context I am from Wales I get the min student finance with student fiance Wales + the grant they give us which I think is 1k (and u get a little more for London). I do plan on working as much as I can and I know my parents can support me if needs be but I dont want to be in the position where im constantly begging for help if you get me? If anyone has experience living in London for uni without a big trust fund and on the min finance or just insight on cost of living issues id really appreciate it. My insurance is in the north so I know id be a bit better off financially there but again ive put all my work into the prospect of being able to move to London after spending my life in a lovely but tiny welsh town.

Hi there,

Congratulations on getting into university, and on making your dream of living in London a reality!

I completely understand your worries managing money as a student in London. I had many of the same concerns before I moved. Although my loan payments were a bit higher, I still had to learn how to budget carefully and live within my means.

One of the most helpful things I did was create a monthly budget before moving. It doesn't have to be super detailed unless you find that helpful - even a rough outline based on estimated weekly spending is a good start. I adjusted mine a couple of weeks into the term once I had a better sense of my regular outgoings. This helped me keep on top of my finances and avoid unnecessary overspending.

Like many students in London, I wouldn't have managed without a part-time job. I worked 12-20 hours a week in retail, which gave me enough extra income to get by without cutting into my study time too much. It also gave me a break from uni work and helped me meet new people.

As mentioned in the thread, definitely take advantage of travel discounts. I used the 16-25 Railcard linked to my Oyster card - it doesn't make travel cheap, but it does help a lot with off-peak fares, especially if you're commuting to lectures.

When it comes to food shopping, try to do your weekly shops at a larger supermarket if you can. Smaller places like Tesco Express tend to be more expensive and often don't stock the cheaper alternatives. I noticed a big difference in my weekly spending when I made that switch.

Finally, try not to let money worries consume you. It's easy to get caught up in being tight with money, but don't let it stop you from making the most of your time at university. If it means spending a little more now and then for a meal out or for a social event, that's okay. Enjoying the experience is just as important as sticking to a budget. It's all about finding a balance that works for you.

It's definitely doable - don't let the worries hold you back. If it's your dream, go for it!

Best wishes, ^Hannah
(edited 2 weeks ago)

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Original post by Anonymous
Hi, so ive firmed going to a London uni and now im starting to get pretty scared if I get the grades and do end up going. Its been my dream to live in London for a while but now im seeing people especially in second year basically saying the finance isn't enough to afford to eat, rent etc. For context I am from Wales I get the min student finance with student fiance Wales + the grant they give us which I think is 1k (and u get a little more for London). I do plan on working as much as I can and I know my parents can support me if needs be but I dont want to be in the position where im constantly begging for help if you get me? If anyone has experience living in London for uni without a big trust fund and on the min finance or just insight on cost of living issues id really appreciate it. My insurance is in the north so I know id be a bit better off financially there but again ive put all my work into the prospect of being able to move to London after spending my life in a lovely but tiny welsh town.

Hi,

I thought I would just share with you a previous post I have done about how much I spend in a month in Kingston which is in London, just not central so the accommodation is a little cheaper.

Monthly Spending Expenses as a Kingston Student - The Student Room

Hopefully this can give you an idea of how much you might need each month :smile:

-Grace (Kingston Rep)

Reply 16

Original post by UCLan Ambassador
Hi there,
Congratulations on getting into university, and on making your dream of living in London a reality!
I completely understand your worries managing money as a student in London. I had many of the same concerns before I moved. Although my loan payments were a bit higher, I still had to learn how to budget carefully and live within my means.
One of the most helpful things I did was create a monthly budget before moving. It doesn't have to be super detailed unless you find that helpful - even a rough outline based on estimated weekly spending is a good start. I adjusted mine a couple of weeks into the term once I had a better sense of my regular outgoings. This helped me keep on top of my finances and avoid unnecessary overspending.
Like many students in London, I wouldn't have managed without a part-time job. I worked 12-20 hours a week in retail, which gave me enough extra income to get by without cutting into my study time too much. It also gave me a break from uni work and helped me meet new people.
As mentioned in the thread, definitely take advantage of travel discounts. I used the 16-25 Railcard linked to my Oyster card - it doesn't make travel cheap, but it does help a lot with off-peak fares, especially if you're commuting to lectures.
When it comes to food shopping, try to do your weekly shops at a larger supermarket if you can. Smaller places like Tesco Express tend to be more expensive and often don't stock the cheaper alternatives. I noticed a big difference in my weekly spending when I made that switch.
Finally, try not to let money worries consume you. It's easy to get caught up in being tight with money, but don't let it stop you from making the most of your time at university. If it means spending a little more now and then for a meal out for a social event, that's okay. Enjoying the experience is just as important as sticking to our budget. It's all about finding a balance that works for you.
It's definitely doable - don't let the worries hold you back. If it's your dream, go for it!
Best wishes, ^Hannah

Thanks so much! If I get the grades I'll definitely go no matter what :smile:

Reply 17

Just wanted to say thanks for all the help and insight everyones given I feel much at ease now - if I get in fingers crossed ill ensure to budget, keep calm and check out all the discounts mentioned 🙂 !

Reply 18

Original post by Anonymous
Hi, so ive firmed going to a London uni and now im starting to get pretty scared if I get the grades and do end up going. Its been my dream to live in London for a while but now im seeing people especially in second year basically saying the finance isn't enough to afford to eat, rent etc. For context I am from Wales I get the min student finance with student fiance Wales + the grant they give us which I think is 1k (and u get a little more for London). I do plan on working as much as I can and I know my parents can support me if needs be but I dont want to be in the position where im constantly begging for help if you get me? If anyone has experience living in London for uni without a big trust fund and on the min finance or just insight on cost of living issues id really appreciate it. My insurance is in the north so I know id be a bit better off financially there but again ive put all my work into the prospect of being able to move to London after spending my life in a lovely but tiny welsh town.

Hiya,

I think your concerns are completely valid and it’s also great that you’re thinking about managing the financial aspect of university. You can apply for a maintenance loan and should be granted a decent amount to help towards living costs. You will also be able to work alongside your studies to top up your money.

You are correct that London is an expensive place to live! While I haven’t been a student living in London, I am from London and there are definitely areas that are more affordable. Even if you have to live a littler further out from your university, it won’t matter as transport in London is great! You can pretty much get anywhere you want within an hour. You’ll be able to apply for a student Oyster card to help with travel costs.

Yes it might be struggle at times but if this is your dream, look into properly and go for it! Look into areas that are most affordable for you. What support can you get etc. London is an amazing city to live in. There’s always something going on, so many places to go and things to experience! I’d say you won’t regret this decision if it’s what you want! You’ll be able to make it work, if you budget properly.

Good luck! I hope this helps ease some worries.

Sophie 🙂

Reply 19

Original post by Anonymous
Hi, so ive firmed going to a London uni and now im starting to get pretty scared if I get the grades and do end up going. Its been my dream to live in London for a while but now im seeing people especially in second year basically saying the finance isn't enough to afford to eat, rent etc. For context I am from Wales I get the min student finance with student fiance Wales + the grant they give us which I think is 1k (and u get a little more for London). I do plan on working as much as I can and I know my parents can support me if needs be but I dont want to be in the position where im constantly begging for help if you get me? If anyone has experience living in London for uni without a big trust fund and on the min finance or just insight on cost of living issues id really appreciate it. My insurance is in the north so I know id be a bit better off financially there but again ive put all my work into the prospect of being able to move to London after spending my life in a lovely but tiny welsh town.

Hi

The cost of university and the cost of additional things like rent and food bills as a real concern for most university students.

However, many universities can help students with the cost of uni through additional grants and scholarships which you may be eligible for, so it may be worth checking to see if you can access any of these.

In addition, many students currently complete part-time work alongside their degree, especially after the cost of living crisis, so this can be another avenue in which you can generate some extra funding to support yourself at university.

For more help and advice on budgeting, check out our blog on budgeting here!

I hope this helps,

Matt
2nd Year Physiotherapy Student
Wrexham Uni reps

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