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I cheated on my long-distance gf

I've been in a relationship for a around 16 months. It's been difficult. The start was great, though at times I don't know if there was that strong connection. We found each-other from a dating app. I was doing my year abroad at that time. We got along quite well but even earlier on maybe there were some difference's. I'm not sure. my year abroad ended within 4 months of being with her. it was difficult. we live cross-continent so seeing her regularly is tough. She has rent to pay, I'm still a student so I'm able to fly around and she's not. Anyway, fast forward 8 months, every time we saw each-other, it was a bit awkward at the start though, slowly after a week of being with each-other again, it was good. But eventually we started arguing constantly. we couldn't get more than 2 days without an argument. it sucked. our sex-life disappeared, she didn't want to have sex and I did. I didn't feel wanted. We still talked as usual and sometimes it was nice, sometimes we didn't get a glimpse of who we were but it was hard to get out of this rut. Anyway the last straw was me wanting to see her in quick succession of our last trip. She didn't have the funds. She had just gotten a new job and I knew this was going to put a spanner in the works of our relationship. I didn't support her as I should have but I was frustrated amongst all the other problems we had. We didn't have sex, and I was made to feel guilty when I wanted to connect in that way. It felt like my way or the highway when it came to household chores. I cooked and I cleaned but my cleaning was never to her standards which is new-home clean and it'd cause problems. I know in her perspective it feels as if I don't respect her household, and that all I want to do is pleasure myself, but it's not. I was selfish and It was wrong. She ended up feeling like we should break up and I wasn't sure about it. we took a week off and we spoke, she was on the side of breaking up but I convinced her somehow. The thing is things arguably got better on the phone, we weren't really arguing. I feel like the breakup popped my delusion that we'd one day have a life together. fast forward to last week, I went to a party and kissed a girl and felt something I never felt with my current partner. the girl I kissed is someone I dated a long time ago who I really liked. I feel ridiculously guilty. my gf is extremely loyal. i ****ed up and I know it. I don't know what I want. I do love her but sometimes I'm not sure if I like her. A part of my wants to leave, and a part of me wants to stay. I don't know if there's much point in telling her. I don't need anyone telling me what I did wrong, because I know, I just need advice on how to move forward.

Reply 1

Advice on how to move forward is break up with her. You don’t want people to say what you did wrong which I won’t but you don’t need to be with her if you feel like kissing others. It sounds more like lust than love. When you love someone you wouldn’t do that, yes you care for her but not enough to stay loyal. The fact you said it feels awkward when you see each other is quite weird too. I think you are a good guy and don’t want to break her heart by breaking up with her but staying longer than needed will make it worse. It’s difficult having a long distance relationship no matter your age or occupation.

In terms of sex, women (and maybe some men but I’m talking from a women’s prospective), we find it hard to be intimate with our partners if we aren’t close or doing the small steps in between to feel loved and wanted. When me and my partner go a week within being close or hugging/kissing, even spending time chatting and doing things together, the last thing I want to do is have sex. But my partner doesn’t mind, he will want to do it anyway lol

Reply 2

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by JasmineAcademic
Advice on how to move forward is break up with her. You don’t want people to say what you did wrong which I won’t but you don’t need to be with her if you feel like kissing others. It sounds more like lust than love. When you love someone you wouldn’t do that, yes you care for her but not enough to stay loyal. The fact you said it feels awkward when you see each other is quite weird too. I think you are a good guy and don’t want to break her heart by breaking up with her but staying longer than needed will make it worse. It’s difficult having a long distance relationship no matter your age or occupation.
In terms of sex, women (and maybe some men but I’m talking from a women’s prospective), we find it hard to be intimate with our partners if we aren’t close or doing the small steps in between to feel loved and wanted. When me and my partner go a week within being close or hugging/kissing, even spending time chatting and doing things together, the last thing I want to do is have sex. But my partner doesn’t mind, he will want to do it anyway lol

I am leaning in the breaking up side. It’s breaking my heart because it feels like for the first time in ages that things have been good. Like i actually enjoy talking about whatever. I agree i can’t expect to have sex straight away after not seeing my partner for 2-3 months at a time but it’s tough when i feel rejected all the time. It’s not that i just want to use her. It’s how i feel connected.

I don’t want to kiss any other people. It happened and that was it. I feel a ridiculous amount of guilt and as i’m typing this i feel sick. I want to stay with her but at the same time i don’t know if it’s healthy. It’s eating me up like crazy.

I think the part where i’m struggling the most is that things have been going decent. I want to see where it goes and if we can come back from the previous crap, but at the same time i don’t know it i’d be able to carry the guilt. Sorry, i just have so many thoughts in my head.

Reply 3

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by Anonymous
I am leaning in the breaking up side. It’s breaking my heart because it feels like for the first time in ages that things have been good. Like i actually enjoy talking about whatever. I agree i can’t expect to have sex straight away after not seeing my partner for 2-3 months at a time but it’s tough when i feel rejected all the time. It’s not that i just want to use her. It’s how i feel connected.
I don’t want to kiss any other people. It happened and that was it. I feel a ridiculous amount of guilt and as i’m typing this i feel sick. I want to stay with her but at the same time i don’t know if it’s healthy. It’s eating me up like crazy.
I think the part where i’m struggling the most is that things have been going decent. I want to see where it goes and if we can come back from the previous crap, but at the same time i don’t know it i’d be able to carry the guilt. Sorry, i just have so many thoughts in my head.
That’s ok, don’t apologise! Sh*t happens sometimes when we least expect it. Doing what you did doesn’t make you a bad person. Don’t beat yourself up. The fact you feel sick sounds like you really do have a lot of love for her. Why not give it another go, see what happens and where it goes and then at least you can say you gave it your best shot?

Sometimes we feel sick even if we know it’s the right thing to do. As an empath we don’t want to hurt anyone’s feelings. You need to decide whether you feel the way you do because you really want to make it work or is it because you don’t want to hurt her feelings or leave her broken hearted? If it’s the latter, it will feel harder the longer you leave it. But like I say, there is nothing wrong with trying again and giving it one last go. You deserve to feel loved too and wanted.

Reply 4

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by Anonymous
I am leaning in the breaking up side. It’s breaking my heart because it feels like for the first time in ages that things have been good. Like i actually enjoy talking about whatever. I agree i can’t expect to have sex straight away after not seeing my partner for 2-3 months at a time but it’s tough when i feel rejected all the time. It’s not that i just want to use her. It’s how i feel connected.
I don’t want to kiss any other people. It happened and that was it. I feel a ridiculous amount of guilt and as i’m typing this i feel sick. I want to stay with her but at the same time i don’t know if it’s healthy. It’s eating me up like crazy.
I think the part where i’m struggling the most is that things have been going decent. I want to see where it goes and if we can come back from the previous crap, but at the same time i don’t know it i’d be able to carry the guilt. Sorry, i just have so many thoughts in my head.

You shouldn't feel guilty at all. Not even one little bit.

When your Antarctic (or whatever continent she's on) girlfriend froze you out of the bedroom, repeatedly, she lost the right to keep you as an exclusive boyfriend.

It would be unethical for you to travel to her continent and have sex with her without you letting her know that you've been evaluating other women, to the extent of kissing them. But you haven't done that.

It's fine if you have a kind of delayed final goodbye that you do before seeing her again, or if you let her know that the 2 of you are no longer exclusive.

The amount of arguing you've been doing justifies you breaking up with her.
Her taking your cooking and cleaning for granted and complaining about it would justify you breaking up with her.
Her not wanting to have sex with you would justify you breaking up with her.

There's plenty of women out there with whom you will argue less, will appreciate and respect you more and will want sex with you at least as much as you want sex with her.
The better you get at being a boyfriend, the higher the proportion of women that will fit into this category. Bear in mind that some of the ways in which you would be a better boyfriend will be "counter-intuitive".
So that there's no reason at all for you to stay with someone that's as cold as liquid nitrogen in the bedroom and as hot headed as an Indonesian volcano in the living room.

Reply 5

Why would you argue with her to try and maintain this quasi-relationship? It's awful.

Reply 6

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by JasmineAcademic
That’s ok, don’t apologise! Sh*t happens sometimes when we least expect it. Doing what you did doesn’t make you a bad person. Don’t beat yourself up. The fact you feel sick sounds like you really do have a lot of love for her. Why not give it another go, see what happens and where it goes and then at least you can say you gave it your best shot?
Sometimes we feel sick even if we know it’s the right thing to do. As an empath we don’t want to hurt anyone’s feelings. You need to decide whether you feel the way you do because you really want to make it work or is it because you don’t want to hurt her feelings or leave her broken hearted? If it’s the latter, it will feel harder the longer you leave it. But like I say, there is nothing wrong with trying again and giving it one last go. You deserve to feel loved too and wanted.

Thank you, i appreciate that. It’s really tough because this is just completely against my values. I think i need a bit if time to really get to the ‘why’ of what i did and then come to a decision. I think i feel such an awful feeling as things have been quite good since the initial break-up talk, at least over the phone. Every time she’s said she loves me and thinks about seeing me i feel like such a fraud and just feel horrible. Regardless i think i need time to fully ingest what i’ve done and why i’ve done it and come to the best conclusion.

Reply 7

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by Dunnig Kruger
You shouldn't feel guilty at all. Not even one little bit.
When your Antarctic (or whatever continent she's on) girlfriend froze you out of the bedroom, repeatedly, she lost the right to keep you as an exclusive boyfriend.
It would be unethical for you to travel to her continent and have sex with her without you letting her know that you've been evaluating other women, to the extent of kissing them. But you haven't done that.
It's fine if you have a kind of delayed final goodbye that you do before seeing her again, or if you let her know that the 2 of you are no longer exclusive.
The amount of arguing you've been doing justifies you breaking up with her.
Her taking your cooking and cleaning for granted and complaining about it would justify you breaking up with her.
Her not wanting to have sex with you would justify you breaking up with her.
There's plenty of women out there with whom you will argue less, will appreciate and respect you more and will want sex with you at least as much as you want sex with her.
The better you get at being a boyfriend, the higher the proportion of women that will fit into this category. Bear in mind that some of the ways in which you would be a better boyfriend will be "counter-intuitive".
So that there's no reason at all for you to stay with someone that's as cold as liquid nitrogen in the bedroom and as hot headed as an Indonesian volcano in the living room.

Thank you, I appreciate you for understanding. It’s tough because i know there’s reasons why we haven’t been having sex, but i don’t know if these rational reasons are something i should put up with because it is deeply rejecting at the end of the day. It’s not like we don’t cuddle and kiss but i just don’t feel attractive or wanted in that way and it sucks.

I think i need a bit of time to think about the why.

Reply 8

I'm not sure how you do anything other than break up here. Your entire first post is written as an excuse as to why you cheated and why, ultimately, you should break up. The notion that your girlfriend lost the right to keep you as an exclusive boyfriend when she froze you out of the bedroom is awful and borderline misogynistic advice that you should absolutely not be paying attention to. But the reality is that neither of you are happy in this relationship. It just isn't working, and it needs to come to an end. That much is blindingly obvious to me at least. To that extent it is understandable that you feel guilty for cheating, but to my mind the cheating is one of many indications that this relationship has failed, rather than demonstrating some sort of flaw in your character. It's not a pleasant thing to face up to, but that really is the direction that everything is pointed towards.

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by JasmineAcademic
In terms of sex, women (and maybe some men but I’m talking from a women’s prospective), we find it hard to be intimate with our partners if we aren’t close or doing the small steps in between to feel loved and wanted. When me and my partner go a week within being close or hugging/kissing, even spending time chatting and doing things together, the last thing I want to do is have sex. But my partner doesn’t mind, he will want to do it anyway lol


For future relationships, this is excellent advice and something well worth paying attention to. Everyone is wired slightly differently when it comes to sex and sexual desire, but most men are wired differently to most women. Paloma Faith wrote in her book that came out last year that, for most women, foreplay is what you do in the hours and days before sex, not in the ten minutes before when you've already decided to have sex. That is spot on, and is exactly what Jasmine is saying here. It is most certainly advice to take on board. Immeasurably better than thinking that you have a right to cheat as soon as your partner doesn't give you sex for a bit.

Reply 9

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by Crazy Jamie
I'm not sure how you do anything other than break up here. Your entire first post is written as an excuse as to why you cheated and why, ultimately, you should break up. The notion that your girlfriend lost the right to keep you as an exclusive boyfriend when she froze you out of the bedroom is awful and borderline misogynistic advice that you should absolutely not be paying attention to. But the reality is that neither of you are happy in this relationship. It just isn't working, and it needs to come to an end. That much is blindingly obvious to me at least. To that extent it is understandable that you feel guilty for cheating, but to my mind the cheating is one of many indications that this relationship has failed, rather than demonstrating some sort of flaw in your character. It's not a pleasant thing to face up to, but that really is the direction that everything is pointed towards.
For future relationships, this is excellent advice and something well worth paying attention to. Everyone is wired slightly differently when it comes to sex and sexual desire, but most men are wired differently to most women. Paloma Faith wrote in her book that came out last year that, for most women, foreplay is what you do in the hours and days before sex, not in the ten minutes before when you've already decided to have sex. That is spot on, and is exactly what Jasmine is saying here. It is most certainly advice to take on board. Immeasurably better than thinking that you have a right to cheat as soon as your partner doesn't give you sex for a bit.
I entirely agree on that whole foreplay is what you do during the day scenario. It's extremely hard when most of our relationship is on the phone and then it goes from 0 to 100 when we see each-other. It's not 1 week or 2 weeks it's 2-3 months where we are on the phone and then we are at each-others face with no me time for 2-3 weeks dead straight. She lives in a studio so it's hard to have space. Unfortunately it's just consistently hard going from intense meet-ups to not seeing each-other, I feel like it has killed the natural flow of foreplay. She also seems to hate talking about sex, I don't even talk about it often but as soon as I bring it up the conversation becomes awkward as if it's taboo.

I do agree that she hasn't lost exclusivity based on lack of sex (although of course I breached that trust). Like I said there are other factors such as her meds. She has since gone of them but I haven't seen her in person yet since she has. She doesn't owe me 'sex'. 100%. I think from my perspective it's just a bid for connection and it's upsetting when i feel as though I'm not desirable in that way. It kills my confidence, and then the more often that happens my initiation gets worse and worse the more i feel like I'm going to get rejected. I hate to say it but sometimes I feel like it's a sane reaction to an insane situation if you understand what I mean. Eventually after multiple rejections from someone who loves you it becomes near unbearable.

Regardless i still messed the hell up. I am writing the negatives because that's what i'm here for. There are positives but i don't know if they outweigh the negatives anymore.

Reply 10

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by Anonymous
I think from my perspective it's just a bid for connection and it's upsetting when i feel as though I'm not desirable in that way. It kills my confidence, and then the more often that happens my initiation gets worse and worse the more i feel like I'm going to get rejected. I hate to say it but sometimes I feel like it's a sane reaction to an insane situation if you understand what I mean. Eventually after multiple rejections from someone who loves you it becomes near unbearable.


These sorts of feelings are really common in longer term relationships when the person who has more of a drive for or usually initiates sex feels like they're not getting the connection that they're looking for because of the rejection. In reality that's something of a self fulfilling prophecy. You try to initiate. You're rejected. You feel bad about that. You want your partner to spontaneously want to have sex with you and to desire you. But the pressure to initiate themselves or respond to your initiation makes it less likely, not more, that they will do that. As I say, a very common problem in longer term relationships. I wrote about it in a post here a few weeks ago. So in future, whether in this relationship or others, you certainly shouldn't feel like this sort of thing is an insurmountable problem. It might well be in this relationship (perhaps one of several), but in general it shouldn't be seen in that way.

Reply 11

Learn how to use paragraphs bro, fr.

If you cheated on her then you should break up. End of story.

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