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Mental Health related issues somehow going bald for unknown reason at 17 (Female)

Okay so this might be a bit personal but lately I haven’t been able to get out of a semi depression state because I’m losing my hair this has been going on since 2021 November after I recovered from getting dandruff .For context I’m Somali and a Hijabi I’ve tried everything in the book and I’m terrified to tell my parents because I’m afraid they’ll laugh at me this stuff is eating me up from the inside to the point i can’t look in mirrors anymore without feeling ugly I have no idea why I’m even balding at 17 I haven’t changed my diet in fact I tried to look eat healthier because of this I’m genuinely hating how I look and terrified of the future because the hair I’ve lost I’m worried grow it will never and it’s slowly starting to show at school my firends keep on asking me why I hide away from cameras and are covering up more then I used to my parents are happy that they think I’m getting more religious but the truth is I don’t want to be laughed at for having a big forehead I have no idea what to do as I should be focusing on university and UCAS which I was so excited for now I feel empty

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by Anonymous
Okay so this might be a bit personal but lately I haven’t been able to get out of a semi depression state because I’m losing my hair this has been going on since 2021 November after I recovered from getting dandruff .For context I’m Somali and a Hijabi I’ve tried everything in the book and I’m terrified to tell my parents because I’m afraid they’ll laugh at me this stuff is eating me up from the inside to the point i can’t look in mirrors anymore without feeling ugly I have no idea why I’m even balding at 17 I haven’t changed my diet in fact I tried to look eat healthier because of this I’m genuinely hating how I look and terrified of the future because the hair I’ve lost I’m worried grow it will never and it’s slowly starting to show at school my firends keep on asking me why I hide away from cameras and are covering up more then I used to my parents are happy that they think I’m getting more religious but the truth is I don’t want to be laughed at for having a big forehead I have no idea what to do as I should be focusing on university and UCAS which I was so excited for now I feel empty

Tell your parents.

One point that you raised about diet. I think you should be careful with healthy fads. I heard of stories of people going down the popular diets like vegan and this causing health issues esp for younger people.

Reply 2

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by Anonymous
Okay so this might be a bit personal but lately I haven’t been able to get out of a semi depression state because I’m losing my hair this has been going on since 2021 November after I recovered from getting dandruff .For context I’m Somali and a Hijabi I’ve tried everything in the book and I’m terrified to tell my parents because I’m afraid they’ll laugh at me this stuff is eating me up from the inside to the point i can’t look in mirrors anymore without feeling ugly I have no idea why I’m even balding at 17 I haven’t changed my diet in fact I tried to look eat healthier because of this I’m genuinely hating how I look and terrified of the future because the hair I’ve lost I’m worried grow it will never and it’s slowly starting to show at school my firends keep on asking me why I hide away from cameras and are covering up more then I used to my parents are happy that they think I’m getting more religious but the truth is I don’t want to be laughed at for having a big forehead I have no idea what to do as I should be focusing on university and UCAS which I was so excited for now I feel empty
Part of why this bothers me so much is because I was praised for my long hair my entire life had the typical Somali aunties say I carry my culture with me and that my “Future Husband would be lucky”

Reply 3

I agree that you must tell your parents. Why do you think they would laugh at you? That would be an incredibly cruel thing to do. Nearly all parents want the best for their children, and I am sure that yours would absolutely want you to tell them when you are struggling with something. When you say you have tried 'everything in the book', have you sought actual medical advice from a specialist? Hair loss is treatable in very many cases, but you do need to get advice from someone with specialist knowledge and not from the internet. Tell your parents. Go to a specialist.

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by Wired_1800
One point that you raised about diet. I think you should be careful with healthy fads. I heard of stories of people going down the popular diets like vegan and this causing health issues esp for younger people.


Whereas all the people who just dine out on ultra processed food and red meat regularly are perfectly healthy? Don't be silly. Any diet can be unhealthy if people aren't sensible. I do agree that people should be wary of healthy fads, as many of them simply do not work, and some can be harmful. But veganism is not a fad and nor is it harmful. It's a positively strange example to use in a post like this.

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by Crazy Jamie
I agree that you must tell your parents. Why do you think they would laugh at you? That would be an incredibly cruel thing to do. Nearly all parents want the best for their children, and I am sure that yours would absolutely want you to tell them when you are struggling with something. When you say you have tried 'everything in the book', have you sought actual medical advice from a specialist? Hair loss is treatable in very many cases, but you do need to get advice from someone with specialist knowledge and not from the internet. Tell your parents. Go to a specialist.
Whereas all the people who just dine out on ultra processed food and red meat regularly are perfectly healthy? Don't be silly. Any diet can be unhealthy if people aren't sensible. I do agree that people should be wary of healthy fads, as many of them simply do not work, and some can be harmful. But veganism is not a fad and nor is it harmful. It's a positively strange example to use in a post like this.

There are drawbacks to a vegan diet that is often not talked about. Sometimes, individuals need supplements to ensure that they have sufficient nutrients.

here is a quick google search: While a vegan diet can offer health and environmental benefits, it also presents potential drawbacks. Nutrient deficiencies, particularly in vitamin B12, omega-3 fatty acids, iron, calcium, and zinc, are a common concern. Furthermore, some individuals may find it difficult to obtain sufficient protein and may experience allergies or absorption issues with certain plant-based foods.

Potential Nutrient Deficiencies:
Vitamin B12:
This vitamin is primarily found in animal products, making supplementation or fortified foods crucial for vegans.

Omega-3 Fatty Acids:
While plant-based sources exist, the conversion to EPA and DHA (important for brain and heart health) is limited, and supplementation or incorporating algae-based sources may be necessary.

Iron:
While present in plants, iron absorption can be lower than from animal sources. Vegans may need to focus on iron-rich plant foods and consume them with vitamin C to enhance absorption.

Calcium:
Dairy is a primary source of calcium, and vegans need to ensure adequate intake through fortified plant milks, leafy greens, and other calcium-rich foods.

Zinc:
Found in nuts, seeds, and legumes, zinc absorption can be lower from plant sources. Vegans may need to increase their intake or consider supplementation.

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by Wired_1800
There are drawbacks to a vegan diet that is often not talked about. Sometimes, individuals need supplements to ensure that they have sufficient nutrients.


I'm not sure on what basis you say that the drawbacks are not often talked about. Certain sections of the media fall over themselves to criticise veganism, as do many people who apparently feel threatened by people deciding not to eat animal based products. It's really strange behaviour in response to a diet choice that doesn't affect them.

Of all of the nutrients that you listed, the only one that doesn't naturally exist in non animal based products is Vitamin B-12. Again, that is really well known, but it's very easy to get enough of it through plant based milks or supplements. Everything else you've listed is easily available through specific foods. You can get a deficiency of any nutrients through any diet if you don't eat enough variety or quality of foods. There is nothing inherent in veganism that makes it hazardous or more likely to result in nutrient deficiencies. In fact, vegan diets tend to be much healthier than average, meat eating diets, as they usually contain a higher proportion and variety of nutrient rich foods, and fewer ultra processed foods. Fibre is possibly the best example. Only about 10% of people get enough fibre, but vegan diets are often very high in it.

To be clear, I am not a vegan or a vegetarian. I have made a conscious decision to significantly reduce my meat intake in the last couple of years, which is something that is a good idea for everyone to do for both nutrient and environmental reasons, but I do still eat meat and fish. So I have no skin in the game when it comes to veganism. But warning people about it on the basis that it can inherently cause health issue is nonsensical, as is raising it at all in a thread about hair loss.

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im not quite in the same position as you, but i have a genetic thing that means ive never had any body hair and my head hair will probably just suddenly stop growing in the next few years. even my eye brows are mostly painted on. ive always had a high hair line. so maybe its something like that and its just the genetic trigger has been triggered somehow so if you go to doctors make sure they check for something like that, mine was triggered by puberty and some big emotional and other problems i had at the time in my mid teens. good luck

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by Crazy Jamie
I'm not sure on what basis you say that the drawbacks are not often talked about. Certain sections of the media fall over themselves to criticise veganism, as do many people who apparently feel threatened by people deciding not to eat animal based products. It's really strange behaviour in response to a diet choice that doesn't affect them.
Of all of the nutrients that you listed, the only one that doesn't naturally exist in non animal based products is Vitamin B-12. Again, that is really well known, but it's very easy to get enough of it through plant based milks or supplements. Everything else you've listed is easily available through specific foods. You can get a deficiency of any nutrients through any diet if you don't eat enough variety or quality of foods. There is nothing inherent in veganism that makes it hazardous or more likely to result in nutrient deficiencies. In fact, vegan diets tend to be much healthier than average, meat eating diets, as they usually contain a higher proportion and variety of nutrient rich foods, and fewer ultra processed foods. Fibre is possibly the best example. Only about 10% of people get enough fibre, but vegan diets are often very high in it.
To be clear, I am not a vegan or a vegetarian. I have made a conscious decision to significantly reduce my meat intake in the last couple of years, which is something that is a good idea for everyone to do for both nutrient and environmental reasons, but I do still eat meat and fish. So I have no skin in the game when it comes to veganism. But warning people about it on the basis that it can inherently cause health issue is nonsensical, as is raising it at all in a thread about hair loss.

I do not think it is nonsensical.

The choice should be based on individuals but they should be well-informed. You seem to be informed on the diet requirements but not everyone would be as informed as you are.

As I had noted in my earliest post, I heard about specific cases and used it as an example. Not sure why you would criticise it. The cases that I heard, one girl had hair loss while another had irregular periods after such diets but returned to her regular meals soon after. Not everyone can adapt or cope with such diet plans. For completeness sake, this would cover many other plans.

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by Wired_1800
I do not think it is nonsensical.

The choice should be based on individuals but they should be well-informed. You seem to be informed on the diet requirements but not everyone would be as informed as you are.

As I had noted in my earliest post, I heard about specific cases and used it as an example. Not sure why you would criticise it. The cases that I heard, one girl had hair loss while another had irregular periods after such diets but returned to her regular meals soon after. Not everyone can adapt or cope with such diet plans. For completeness sake, this would cover many other plans.

"I heard about these cases so I thought I'd mention them" is nonsensical because it can be used to highlight literally anything without any appreciation of how widespread or significant those issues might be. There are far more unhealthy and problematic meat eating diets than there are vegan ones. But the problems arising from them are so common and widespread that you probably don't even register them. I criticise you mentioning vegan diets because there is absolutely no scientific or statistical basis for actually warning someone in this situation about a vegan diet. None. As much as you can fall back on "hey, I'm only relaying my experience", you are giving advice on the internet and there is a responsibility that comes with that. Mentioning veganism in this context is only going to make people wary of something that, chances are, they have no need to be wary about at all.

Anyway, I've made my point on that. I don't want to derail this thread when the OP is clearly asking about a very specific issue.
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Reply 9

Original post
by Wired_1800
There are drawbacks to a vegan diet that is often not talked about. Sometimes, individuals need supplements to ensure that they have sufficient nutrients.
here is a quick google search: While a vegan diet can offer health and environmental benefits, it also presents potential drawbacks. Nutrient deficiencies, particularly in vitamin B12, omega-3 fatty acids, iron, calcium, and zinc, are a common concern. Furthermore, some individuals may find it difficult to obtain sufficient protein and may experience allergies or absorption issues with certain plant-based foods.
Potential Nutrient Deficiencies:
Vitamin B12:
This vitamin is primarily found in animal products, making supplementation or fortified foods crucial for vegans.
Omega-3 Fatty Acids:
While plant-based sources exist, the conversion to EPA and DHA (important for brain and heart health) is limited, and supplementation or incorporating algae-based sources may be necessary.
Iron:
While present in plants, iron absorption can be lower than from animal sources. Vegans may need to focus on iron-rich plant foods and consume them with vitamin C to enhance absorption.
Calcium:
Dairy is a primary source of calcium, and vegans need to ensure adequate intake through fortified plant milks, leafy greens, and other calcium-rich foods.
Zinc:
Found in nuts, seeds, and legumes, zinc absorption can be lower from plant sources. Vegans may need to increase their intake or consider supplementation.

Although I must say that when I was a more strict vegan, even sort of 80-10-10 vegan I had the best health. It was very hard to maintain such a lifestyle but health-wise it was worth it for me. Mental health was a different story. Being focused on diet is not a best thing you can do to your mental health... Maybe unless you are a professional food-blogger or something like that.

I agree with what you say and I always say that it was good for ME doesn't mean it is good for everyone. No matter what diet you choose you have to keep an eye on nutrients balance and build your portions and menu in a way you get the most benefit from what you eat and how you eat. The more strict your diet is the harder is to keep that.

Diet is not everything, mental health and overall health are also very important. You have to check what is wrong with you and why (more addressing the OP now) and speaking to your parents may help you get the best treatment options. You can go to a doctor by yourself, but I believe that parents can help you get the help you need faster and better.

Reply 10

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by Crazy Jamie
"I heard about these cases so I thought I'd mention them" is nonsensical because it can be used to highlight literally anything without any appreciation of how widespread or significant those issues might be. There are far more unhealthy and problematic meat eating diets than there are vegan ones. But the problems arising from them are so common and widespread that you probably don't even register them. I criticise you mentioning vegan diets because there is absolutely no scientific or statistical basis for actually warning someone in this situation about a vegan diet. None. As much as you can fall back on "hey, I'm only relaying my experience", you are giving advice on the internet and there is a responsibility that comes with that. Mentioning veganism in this context is only going to make people wary of something that, chances are, they have no need to be wary about at all.
Anyway, I've made my point on that. I don't want to derail this thread when the OP is clearly asking about a very specific issue.

Let’s take a step back and analyse your points.

To be able to establish a medical or statistical conclusion of any diet, several people would need to note adverse impact with a specific diet or meal plan. To confirm this, there needs to be wider knowledge and communication to enable others to understand and report similar experiences.

What you have stated is that there is no scientific or statistical basis when this can be established through communication. For example, if the OP’s hair loss was linked to her diet, that would be a data point. If another Somali girl experiences similar hair loss based on the same plan, that becomes another data point until it becomes sufficient enough for statistical analysis.

This means that it is not nonsensical because it could be a motivator for the OP to consider her world to determine the reasons for her hair loss as a young woman.

Reply 11

Original post
by Wired_1800
Let’s take a step back and analyse your points.

To be able to establish a medical or statistical conclusion of any diet, several people would need to note adverse impact with a specific diet or meal plan. To confirm this, there needs to be wider knowledge and communication to enable others to understand and report similar experiences.

What you have stated is that there is no scientific or statistical basis when this can be established through communication. For example, if the OP’s hair loss was linked to her diet, that would be a data point. If another Somali girl experiences similar hair loss based on the same plan, that becomes another data point until it becomes sufficient enough for statistical analysis.

This means that it is not nonsensical because it could be a motivator for the OP to consider her world to determine the reasons for her hair loss as a young woman.

I'm going to respond to this briefly because it brings us full circle. With this reasoning you can justify identifying literally any aspect of anyone's life as worthy of consideration as to whether it's the cause of a particular negative thing. Not only is that not practical in the real world, but it's exactly why we have experts. Because their specialist knowledge allows them to narrow down the likely possible causes and to address them. It's precisely why the OP should be seeking specialist advice, and not listening to random people spitballing possible reasons on the internet.

Reply 12

Original post
by Crazy Jamie
I'm going to respond to this briefly because it brings us full circle. With this reasoning you can justify identifying literally any aspect of anyone's life as worthy of consideration as to whether it's the cause of a particular negative thing. Not only is that not practical in the real world, but it's exactly why we have experts. Because their specialist knowledge allows them to narrow down the likely possible causes and to address them. It's precisely why the OP should be seeking specialist advice, and not listening to random people spitballing possible reasons on the internet.

I don't think there would be a reasonable conclusion to this exchange. My position remains the same.

All the best.
Hair loss can be caused by a number of factors, I note you said you are a hijabi - having something pressing on your head can cause traction alopecia (same as having a hairband too tight or always wearing a hat).

It could also be hormonal, stress or diet related. I would recommend seeing a doctor as the sooner a cause is found the easier it is to reverse or at least stop it getting worse.

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