Brunel or Sheffield or Liverpool?
Firstly, i have offers from all the unis i have applied to and if i work hard then i should be able to meet all of them so this is purely a choice down to uni and not grades.
My future career goal would be to become a commercial airline pilot and all the courses i have applied to do are the "with pilot studies" option.
I have applied to sheffield for aerospace engineering, liverpool for aerospace and avionic systems and Brunel for aviation engineering.
I have been to brunel and liverpool open days and am awaiting an open day at sheffield.
Brunel - very good accomodation, very enthusiatic head of department, pilots have come out of the course, decent facilities.
Liverpool - Terrible accommodation, very good facilities (library etc), i liked the head of department too, best simulators in the uk.
Sheffield (from a friend thats visited) - Very good accomodation, enthusiatic teachers, very good facilities.
However, Liverpool and sheffield are ranked in aviation engineering, 6th and 8th in the uk, whereas brunel is 17th. In overall uni terms this is even higher differences with sheffield being 22nd and brunel being 52nd. But at the other two unis, it seems like they want people to have careers in aerospace engineering and the flying is an add on, whereas at brunel they take you flying every wednessday / said " we had about 10 pilots last year"
My future career goal would be to become a commercial airline pilot and all the courses i have applied to do are the "with pilot studies" option.
I have applied to sheffield for aerospace engineering, liverpool for aerospace and avionic systems and Brunel for aviation engineering.
I have been to brunel and liverpool open days and am awaiting an open day at sheffield.
Brunel - very good accomodation, very enthusiatic head of department, pilots have come out of the course, decent facilities.
Liverpool - Terrible accommodation, very good facilities (library etc), i liked the head of department too, best simulators in the uk.
Sheffield (from a friend thats visited) - Very good accomodation, enthusiatic teachers, very good facilities.
However, Liverpool and sheffield are ranked in aviation engineering, 6th and 8th in the uk, whereas brunel is 17th. In overall uni terms this is even higher differences with sheffield being 22nd and brunel being 52nd. But at the other two unis, it seems like they want people to have careers in aerospace engineering and the flying is an add on, whereas at brunel they take you flying every wednessday / said " we had about 10 pilots last year"
Reply 1
I'm going to go with Sheffield but it sounds like you prefer Brunel?
Reply 4
Maybe you should visit Sheffield ...
Reply 8
You've made very good choices. I have a similar dilemma as I have visited the three unis in question, and have offers for the pilot studies courses at each.
These are some of my thoughts at the moment:
-According to rankings, Sheffield>Liverpool>Brunel, but the difference isn't really that big, and airlines and aeronautical engineering firms aren't known for being university snobs, so rankings don't matter. The Brunel degree is more specific to aviation, has a different name, and isn't accredited by the IET like the other two, so it wouldn't be as helpful getting you a job in other disciplines of engineering.
-The Liverpool accomodation may look poor compared to Sheffield and Brunel, but the living conditions aren't too bad, and you're only going to be living there for your first year.
-All 3 universities At Brunel you can do the whole NPPL (32 hrs flying) as part of the degree
-Sheffield provides 25 hours of flying completed by the end of the 2nd year. Liverpool only provides 20 hours, but this is done in the 1st year, so you'd have the 2nd year as well as the 3rd and 4th year to do further flying towards a PPL. The flying at Brunel is even better as you do 32 hrs in the first year, allowing you to get an NPPL.
-Flying is expensive. My interviewer at Liverpool told me that Liverpool can be a dodgy airport to do private flying at because there is a lot of commercial traffic. He also told me that the cost of doing a JAR PPL there is roughly £5,500, which is cheaper than the cost of the NPPL at Brunel (£5,700). I think the 25 hours of flying at Sheffield costs something like £4,000, so its not a cheap place either. Also have a look at the scholarships available for each of the unis, because you will need to save money if you are going to train to be a commercial pilot.
-Liverpool and Brunel will teach you some of the ATPL material as part of the pilot studies add on, also Liverpool have a room of computers set for simulation. I agree with the Sheffield course being intended to produce engineers with the flying being an add on to attract more students, but I definitely wouldn't make the same accusation about Liverpool's course. Brunel allows you to do your ATPL groundschool while on the course, so you can complete your fATPL within half a year of graduating, without comprimising your degree studies like the similar arrangement in place at Liverpool, so if you're certain you want to be a pilot, then it would make sense to do the course at Brunel.
I haven't decided which uni I want to go to yet, but I'm inclined towards Liverpool as I'm not sure if I want to be a pilot or engineer, and it gives me the best of both worlds. If I was certain I wanted to be a pilot I'd go for Brunel, and if I just wanted to be an engineer I'd go to Sheffield.
I'm sorry if that was long winded, but I hope it helps.
These are some of my thoughts at the moment:
-According to rankings, Sheffield>Liverpool>Brunel, but the difference isn't really that big, and airlines and aeronautical engineering firms aren't known for being university snobs, so rankings don't matter. The Brunel degree is more specific to aviation, has a different name, and isn't accredited by the IET like the other two, so it wouldn't be as helpful getting you a job in other disciplines of engineering.
-The Liverpool accomodation may look poor compared to Sheffield and Brunel, but the living conditions aren't too bad, and you're only going to be living there for your first year.
-All 3 universities At Brunel you can do the whole NPPL (32 hrs flying) as part of the degree
-Sheffield provides 25 hours of flying completed by the end of the 2nd year. Liverpool only provides 20 hours, but this is done in the 1st year, so you'd have the 2nd year as well as the 3rd and 4th year to do further flying towards a PPL. The flying at Brunel is even better as you do 32 hrs in the first year, allowing you to get an NPPL.
-Flying is expensive. My interviewer at Liverpool told me that Liverpool can be a dodgy airport to do private flying at because there is a lot of commercial traffic. He also told me that the cost of doing a JAR PPL there is roughly £5,500, which is cheaper than the cost of the NPPL at Brunel (£5,700). I think the 25 hours of flying at Sheffield costs something like £4,000, so its not a cheap place either. Also have a look at the scholarships available for each of the unis, because you will need to save money if you are going to train to be a commercial pilot.
-Liverpool and Brunel will teach you some of the ATPL material as part of the pilot studies add on, also Liverpool have a room of computers set for simulation. I agree with the Sheffield course being intended to produce engineers with the flying being an add on to attract more students, but I definitely wouldn't make the same accusation about Liverpool's course. Brunel allows you to do your ATPL groundschool while on the course, so you can complete your fATPL within half a year of graduating, without comprimising your degree studies like the similar arrangement in place at Liverpool, so if you're certain you want to be a pilot, then it would make sense to do the course at Brunel.
I haven't decided which uni I want to go to yet, but I'm inclined towards Liverpool as I'm not sure if I want to be a pilot or engineer, and it gives me the best of both worlds. If I was certain I wanted to be a pilot I'd go for Brunel, and if I just wanted to be an engineer I'd go to Sheffield.
I'm sorry if that was long winded, but I hope it helps.
theres a thread for similar stuff (actually threads) in the engineering forum. My bet is for Sheffield which i preferred than Liverpool (Brunel is in a lower league). But I guess SHeff=Liverpool in terms of course and reputation so its rather your personal choice.
Edit:
I didnt actually read what u said about the pilot training at first. Thats a different story than as I havent really looked at piloting experience myself.
Edit:
I didnt actually read what u said about the pilot training at first. Thats a different story than as I havent really looked at piloting experience myself.
LaSagna
You've made very good choices. I have a similar dilemma as I have visited the three unis in question, and have offers for the pilot studies courses at each.
These are some of my thoughts at the moment:
-According to rankings, Sheffield>Liverpool>Brunel, but the difference isn't really that big, and airlines and aeronautical engineering firms aren't known for being university snobs, so rankings don't matter. The Brunel degree is more specific to aviation, has a different name, and isn't accredited by the IET like the other two, so it wouldn't be as helpful getting you a job in other disciplines of engineering.
-The Liverpool accomodation may look poor compared to Sheffield and Brunel, but the living conditions aren't too bad, and you're only going to be living there for your first year.
-All 3 universities At Brunel you can do the whole NPPL (32 hrs flying) as part of the degree
-Sheffield provides 25 hours of flying completed by the end of the 2nd year. Liverpool only provides 20 hours, but this is done in the 1st year, so you'd have the 2nd year as well as the 3rd and 4th year to do further flying towards a PPL. The flying at Brunel is even better as you do 32 hrs in the first year, allowing you to get an NPPL.
-Flying is expensive. My interviewer at Liverpool told me that Liverpool can be a dodgy airport to do private flying at because there is a lot of commercial traffic. He also told me that the cost of doing a JAR PPL there is roughly £5,500, which is cheaper than the cost of the NPPL at Brunel (£5,700). I think the 25 hours of flying at Sheffield costs something like £4,000, so its not a cheap place either. Also have a look at the scholarships available for each of the unis, because you will need to save money if you are going to train to be a commercial pilot.
-Liverpool and Brunel will teach you some of the ATPL material as part of the pilot studies add on, also Liverpool have a room of computers set for simulation. I agree with the Sheffield course being intended to produce engineers with the flying being an add on to attract more students, but I definitely wouldn't make the same accusation about Liverpool's course. Brunel allows you to do your ATPL groundschool while on the course, so you can complete your fATPL within half a year of graduating, without comprimising your degree studies like the similar arrangement in place at Liverpool, so if you're certain you want to be a pilot, then it would make sense to do the course at Brunel.
I haven't decided which uni I want to go to yet, but I'm inclined towards Liverpool as I'm not sure if I want to be a pilot or engineer, and it gives me the best of both worlds. If I was certain I wanted to be a pilot I'd go for Brunel, and if I just wanted to be an engineer I'd go to Sheffield.
I'm sorry if that was long winded, but I hope it helps.
These are some of my thoughts at the moment:
-According to rankings, Sheffield>Liverpool>Brunel, but the difference isn't really that big, and airlines and aeronautical engineering firms aren't known for being university snobs, so rankings don't matter. The Brunel degree is more specific to aviation, has a different name, and isn't accredited by the IET like the other two, so it wouldn't be as helpful getting you a job in other disciplines of engineering.
-The Liverpool accomodation may look poor compared to Sheffield and Brunel, but the living conditions aren't too bad, and you're only going to be living there for your first year.
-All 3 universities At Brunel you can do the whole NPPL (32 hrs flying) as part of the degree
-Sheffield provides 25 hours of flying completed by the end of the 2nd year. Liverpool only provides 20 hours, but this is done in the 1st year, so you'd have the 2nd year as well as the 3rd and 4th year to do further flying towards a PPL. The flying at Brunel is even better as you do 32 hrs in the first year, allowing you to get an NPPL.
-Flying is expensive. My interviewer at Liverpool told me that Liverpool can be a dodgy airport to do private flying at because there is a lot of commercial traffic. He also told me that the cost of doing a JAR PPL there is roughly £5,500, which is cheaper than the cost of the NPPL at Brunel (£5,700). I think the 25 hours of flying at Sheffield costs something like £4,000, so its not a cheap place either. Also have a look at the scholarships available for each of the unis, because you will need to save money if you are going to train to be a commercial pilot.
-Liverpool and Brunel will teach you some of the ATPL material as part of the pilot studies add on, also Liverpool have a room of computers set for simulation. I agree with the Sheffield course being intended to produce engineers with the flying being an add on to attract more students, but I definitely wouldn't make the same accusation about Liverpool's course. Brunel allows you to do your ATPL groundschool while on the course, so you can complete your fATPL within half a year of graduating, without comprimising your degree studies like the similar arrangement in place at Liverpool, so if you're certain you want to be a pilot, then it would make sense to do the course at Brunel.
I haven't decided which uni I want to go to yet, but I'm inclined towards Liverpool as I'm not sure if I want to be a pilot or engineer, and it gives me the best of both worlds. If I was certain I wanted to be a pilot I'd go for Brunel, and if I just wanted to be an engineer I'd go to Sheffield.
I'm sorry if that was long winded, but I hope it helps.
yes it helped a lot actually
"so if you're certain you want to be a pilot, then it would make sense to do the course at Brunel." thats what im edgeing towards at the mo
edit: except im not liking the fact Brunels degree is not qualified by the IET are you sure about this?
Reply 13
Seb.c
edit: except im not liking the fact Brunels degree is not qualified by the IET are you sure about this?
Yes, although even within the top unis, very few straightforward aerospace degrees are qualified by the IET (in fact I think Liverpool's may be the only one), so I wouldn't worry about it, unless you're considering being an electronic engineer.
Reply 14
i am asking about which university is better in studies and accomodation and student union is it brunel or sheffield and please reply me fast i want to become a pilot so what should i choose as subjects for my igcse and gce and what should i study at university and undergraduate and postgradute please tell me also which university gets me a nppl ?
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