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i went to hwsf AMA

hi :smile: so as the title says i went to hwsf!

i know hwsf isn’t the most conventional sixth form like they have a lot of diff rules and therefore things can get complicated. and there’s also their partnership with westminster school which can be tricky to get your head around if you’re doing a westminster subject. (i did one btw so feel free to ask me about how that works if you’re also doing one!)

just wanted to create a space for people to ask me any questions they have because i realised a lot of people are curious and confused about a lot of things. also feel free to pm me instead if there are any questions you don’t want to post publicly xx

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Reply 1

Do you actually get 14hrs of homework a week or is that an exaggeration, if so how do you actually cope with it all? Do you have a timetable or just go with it, if so what’s your timetable like?
Do you genuinely have time for things you enjoy other than studying during the school term? Or do those have to wait until the holidays?
On the website it says holidays should be spent productively, what does this mean? Do they have lots of expectations of things you should be doing?
Do they give you lots of homework in the holidays?
Do you commute far (mine would be an 1hr 10min), if so is this tiring and does it make things harder?
Do the teachers put a lot of pressure on you?
If you’re not doing as good in a subject as you should be, are they supportive or do they expect you to figure things out by yourself?
Are the people nice? (I go to a grammar school right now and I find that some people are stuck up and arrogant as they see themselves as smarter than others)
And especially when you go for a Westminster subject, do the Westminster students look down on the Harris ones?
Sorry that’s a lot xx

Reply 2

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by Flower2007!
hi :smile: so as the title says i went to hwsf!
i know hwsf isn’t the most conventional sixth form like they have a lot of diff rules and therefore things can get complicated. and there’s also their partnership with westminster school which can be tricky to get your head around if you’re doing a westminster subject. (i did one btw so feel free to ask me about how that works if you’re also doing one!)
just wanted to create a space for people to ask me any questions they have because i realised a lot of people are curious and confused about a lot of things. also feel free to pm me instead if there are any questions you don’t want to post publicly xx

And overall do you have any regrets / dislikes about the school, and would you recommend it?

Reply 3

This question is slightly more frivolous, but also, what is the dress code actually like? And what do people actually wear?
On the website it’s very vague, but could I theoretically turn up in anything that’s smart business wear?

Reply 4

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by Sophia0834
This question is slightly more frivolous, but also, what is the dress code actually like? And what do people actually wear?
On the website it’s very vague, but could I theoretically turn up in anything that’s smart business wear?


hey dw if it sounds frivolous, ask anything you like :smile:

okay so i personally think the dress code isn’t too bad, yeah they want you to dress smartish which makes sense as it’s still school, but people wear all sorts of things. for example, simple long sleeve t shirts, plain jumpers (NOT hoodies though or things with big logos), button up shirts, suits, waistcoats, smart pants, skirts (some girls wear rly short ones too), wide legged pants (some girls even wear super tight grey/black yoga style trousers which i’m surprised they didn’t get dress coded for 😭) etc.

maybe at the start you can wear typical smart clothes to be safe but once you get a feel for what other people wear and what’s acceptable, you can be more adventurous. for example, i started out wearing a white button up shirt with a blazer and black trousers and a belt. for a girl that’s way too formal to wear everyday for sch tbh (a lot of guys normally wear suits tho). i later started wearing like jumpers and different coloured shirts with bell sleeves and very wide legged pants or even flares and boots.

you can wear any sort of jewellery really e.g lots of rings and stacked bracelets, and have dyed hair and piercings, even nail polish.

the biggest thing they care about is wearing trainers, like that’s a BIG no, and also the fact that you must wear a blazer every time there’s assembly. if you break dress code, they give you warnings and it’s not too deep but if you keep breaking it they may give detentions. hope that helps x

btw my form tutor always told us if we were wondering about a certain piece of clothing, we could show her a pic and ask if it’s okay for school or not so that’s nice ig

Reply 5

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by Flower2007!
hey dw if it sounds frivolous, ask anything you like :smile:
okay so i personally think the dress code isn’t too bad, yeah they want you to dress smartish which makes sense as it’s still school, but people wear all sorts of things. for example, simple long sleeve t shirts, plain jumpers (NOT hoodies though or things with big logos), button up shirts, suits, waistcoats, smart pants, skirts (some girls wear rly short ones too), wide legged pants (some girls even wear super tight grey/black yoga style trousers which i’m surprised they didn’t get dress coded for 😭) etc.
maybe at the start you can wear typical smart clothes to be safe but once you get a feel for what other people wear and what’s acceptable, you can be more adventurous. for example, i started out wearing a white button up shirt with a blazer and black trousers and a belt. for a girl that’s way too formal to wear everyday for sch tbh (a lot of guys normally wear suits tho). i later started wearing like jumpers and different coloured shirts with bell sleeves and very wide legged pants or even flares and boots.
you can wear any sort of jewellery really e.g lots of rings and stacked bracelets, and have dyed hair and piercings, even nail polish.
the biggest thing they care about is wearing trainers, like that’s a BIG no, and also the fact that you must wear a blazer every time there’s assembly. if you break dress code, they give you warnings and it’s not too deep but if you keep breaking it they may give detentions. hope that helps x
btw my form tutor always told us if we were wondering about a certain piece of clothing, we could show her a pic and ask if it’s okay for school or not so that’s nice ig
Ok thank you ☺️

Reply 6

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by Sophia0834
Do you actually get 14hrs of homework a week or is that an exaggeration, if so how do you actually cope with it all? Do you have a timetable or just go with it, if so what’s your timetable like?
Do you genuinely have time for things you enjoy other than studying during the school term? Or do those have to wait until the holidays?
On the website it says holidays should be spent productively, what does this mean? Do they have lots of expectations of things you should be doing?
Do they give you lots of homework in the holidays?
Do you commute far (mine would be an 1hr 10min), if so is this tiring and does it make things harder?
Do the teachers put a lot of pressure on you?
If you’re not doing as good in a subject as you should be, are they supportive or do they expect you to figure things out by yourself?
Are the people nice? (I go to a grammar school right now and I find that some people are stuck up and arrogant as they see themselves as smarter than others)
And especially when you go for a Westminster subject, do the Westminster students look down on the Harris ones?
Sorry that’s a lot xx


1. hi so it’s acc meant to be 16hrs a week lol but tbh i think it’s slightlyyy exaggerated? so it’s 4h per subject and what the teachers normally do is set you a worksheet or booklet that may take 1-2h and they say for the other 2-3h of your hw slot, they want you to do independent revision and submit some evidence of that revision eg flashcards. a lot of people do make timetables and the school ALWAYS encourages us to make timetables and they even made different timetable templates for us depending on whether you’re a night owl or morning person. i didn’t have a timetable but i did keep a list of all the things i had to complete and id complete all my hw in my free periods so i could have spare time when i’m at home. it’s a lot at first honestly but you get used to it. if you don’t complete your hw, most teachers give you a detention while some others just tell you off and ask you to give it the next day.

2. i personally didn’t find much time for fun or relaxation but maybe that’s just me because lots of my friends would go out to eat or hang back after school and study together. we’re superrrrr encouraged to join clubs and extracurriculars even outside of sch, so you may find a few hours to do that stuff if you’re organised. i mean if other people manage to do it then i’m totally sure you can as well, so long as you’re disciplined and motivated to work when you need to. also if you’re healthy and don’t have severe depression or anaemia etc (like i did 😭🙏) then you should be fine too. i will say that the school *expects* us to do several hours of independent work after sch everyday but they can’t rly enforce that apart from just giving lots of hw and tests to revise for.

3. in terms of holidays, one of their favourite sayings is ‘read, rest, review’. so they expect you to do those three in equal measure. they even calculate it for us sometimes eg if we have two weeks off, they’ll say ‘okay guys so that’s 14 days off. you should spent about 4.5 days studying, 4.5 reading and 4.5 resting’ or some bs. again, no way to really enforce that and a lot of people just rest and study despite the school HEAVILY encouraging us all the time to read. sometimes in form time they make us go down to the library and each borrow one or two books to read over the holiday but again, no way to make sure we’ve really read them so it’s fine.

4. my commute was about 40 mins but i defo knew lots of people with 1-1.5h commutes so you won’t be the odd one out. for my secondary sch tho i did commute 1.5h each way and it was exhausting but again, i was depressed and anaemic and the journey itself was terrible like i took a bus then national rail then walked 15 mins uphill. if you’re healthy it shouldn’t be tooo bad esp if the journey is somewhat easy, and you can use that time to read or chill or finish last min hw haha

5. the teachers defo expect a lot and do get kinda unimpressed if you’re consistently doing bad (like they consider a B to be bad) and i personally hated the pressure, but i have to admit, some teachers really do intervene and help if you ask them for it which a lot of people do. for example they’ll sit with you for 5-10 mins after some lessons and explain things to you and even during the lessons when everyone is doing silent work, they’ll walk around and explain things to students. also some teachers are kind and help make revision timetables with you and give you study resources. they’ll never rly just say ‘figure it out on your own’ although some will say generic stuff like ‘do more questions’ or ‘revise this topic more’ or ‘focus on exam technique’

6. so i also went to a grammar secondary! and i also thought a lot of ppl were stuck up and rude at my old sch but tbh one of the best things abt harris is the people and friends you can make. everyone will be new because it’s only a sixth form so you’ll have a clean slate and be able to get to know lots of ppl. it won’t be the case where everyone already knows eachother and has friend groups. most of the girls are chill and kind apart from some that vape in the toilets all the time but even they’re cool ig. there are some popular bratty ones but they stick to themselves and even they’re somewhat nice. regarding the boys, they’re also fine and stick to themselves. some are goofy and funny and sweet. there are some roadmen types but everyone is too focused on academics to rock the boat too much yk? also i haven’t heard about much harassment or huge drama going on. i don’t think there’s a huge bullying problem either although i did get bullied by one girl in y12 but that’s not rly the norm and people disliked her for constantly being mean to me. also she ended up becoming nice and apologising later so yeah. the school is very very diverse so there’s not much racism. there’s a prayer room too and for ramadan last year the school allowed students to organise iftar (the meal when you break your fast) in the canteen

7. the westminster students are pretty chill although a lot of them may know each other already, but i still made some friends in my class. as expected, they are rich and perhaps posh too but most aren’t arrogant or twatty and they’re quite funny and ‘normal’ and down to earth. also the teachers are rly clever, funny and sharp, and more chill than the ones at harris even, because they know we’re all smart and capable so they really treated us like adults and we had a nice back and forth and banter with them in lessons. i don’t think the students looked down at me a lot but it was incredibly hard for me personally to keep up with the class and teachers and i had to get a private tutor to help me. i’d get kinda nauseous every time i’d go to my lesson because i barely understood the stuff and felt intimidated by this big private school. but on the other hand, all my friends and other people i knew who did westminster subjects were happy and thought it was a super cool experience and very fun so dw. they do loads of trips btw! like museums, galleries, plays, italy, greece, germany. the westminster kids are very clever btw as expected lol but they never rubbed it in bc for them that’s just their norm.

anything else pls ask :smile:

Reply 7

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by Flower2007!
1. hi so it’s acc meant to be 16hrs a week lol but tbh i think it’s slightlyyy exaggerated? so it’s 4h per subject and what the teachers normally do is set you a worksheet or booklet that may take 1-2h and they say for the other 2-3h of your hw slot, they want you to do independent revision and submit some evidence of that revision eg flashcards. a lot of people do make timetables and the school ALWAYS encourages us to make timetables and they even made different timetable templates for us depending on whether you’re a night owl or morning person. i didn’t have a timetable but i did keep a list of all the things i had to complete and id complete all my hw in my free periods so i could have spare time when i’m at home. it’s a lot at first honestly but you get used to it. if you don’t complete your hw, most teachers give you a detention while some others just tell you off and ask you to give it the next day.
2. i personally didn’t find much time for fun or relaxation but maybe that’s just me because lots of my friends would go out to eat or hang back after school and study together. we’re superrrrr encouraged to join clubs and extracurriculars even outside of sch, so you may find a few hours to do that stuff if you’re organised. i mean if other people manage to do it then i’m totally sure you can as well, so long as you’re disciplined and motivated to work when you need to. also if you’re healthy and don’t have severe depression or anaemia etc (like i did 😭🙏) then you should be fine too. i will say that the school *expects* us to do several hours of independent work after sch everyday but they can’t rly enforce that apart from just giving lots of hw and tests to revise for.
3. in terms of holidays, one of their favourite sayings is ‘read, rest, review’. so they expect you to do those three in equal measure. they even calculate it for us sometimes eg if we have two weeks off, they’ll say ‘okay guys so that’s 14 days off. you should spent about 4.5 days studying, 4.5 reading and 4.5 resting’ or some bs. again, no way to really enforce that and a lot of people just rest and study despite the school HEAVILY encouraging us all the time to read. sometimes in form time they make us go down to the library and each borrow one or two books to read over the holiday but again, no way to make sure we’ve really read them so it’s fine.
4. my commute was about 40 mins but i defo knew lots of people with 1-1.5h commutes so you won’t be the odd one out. for my secondary sch tho i did commute 1.5h each way and it was exhausting but again, i was depressed and anaemic and the journey itself was terrible like i took a bus then national rail then walked 15 mins uphill. if you’re healthy it shouldn’t be tooo bad esp if the journey is somewhat easy, and you can use that time to read or chill or finish last min hw haha
5. the teachers defo expect a lot and do get kinda unimpressed if you’re consistently doing bad (like they consider a B to be bad) and i personally hated the pressure, but i have to admit, some teachers really do intervene and help if you ask them for it which a lot of people do. for example they’ll sit with you for 5-10 mins after some lessons and explain things to you and even during the lessons when everyone is doing silent work, they’ll walk around and explain things to students. also some teachers are kind and help make revision timetables with you and give you study resources. they’ll never rly just say ‘figure it out on your own’ although some will say generic stuff like ‘do more questions’ or ‘revise this topic more’ or ‘focus on exam technique’
6. so i also went to a grammar secondary! and i also thought a lot of ppl were stuck up and rude at my old sch but tbh one of the best things abt harris is the people and friends you can make. everyone will be new because it’s only a sixth form so you’ll have a clean slate and be able to get to know lots of ppl. it won’t be the case where everyone already knows eachother and has friend groups. most of the girls are chill and kind apart from some that vape in the toilets all the time but even they’re cool ig. there are some popular bratty ones but they stick to themselves and even they’re somewhat nice. regarding the boys, they’re also fine and stick to themselves. some are goofy and funny and sweet. there are some roadmen types but everyone is too focused on academics to rock the boat too much yk? also i haven’t heard about much harassment or huge drama going on. i don’t think there’s a huge bullying problem either although i did get bullied by one girl in y12 but that’s not rly the norm and people disliked her for constantly being mean to me. also she ended up becoming nice and apologising later so yeah. the school is very very diverse so there’s not much racism. there’s a prayer room too and for ramadan last year the school allowed students to organise iftar (the meal when you break your fast) in the canteen
7. the westminster students are pretty chill although a lot of them may know each other already, but i still made some friends in my class. as expected, they are rich and perhaps posh too but most aren’t arrogant or twatty and they’re quite funny and ‘normal’ and down to earth. also the teachers are rly clever, funny and sharp, and more chill than the ones at harris even, because they know we’re all smart and capable so they really treated us like adults and we had a nice back and forth and banter with them in lessons. i don’t think the students looked down at me a lot but it was incredibly hard for me personally to keep up with the class and teachers and i had to get a private tutor to help me. i’d get kinda nauseous every time i’d go to my lesson because i barely understood the stuff and felt intimidated by this big private school. but on the other hand, all my friends and other people i knew who did westminster subjects were happy and thought it was a super cool experience and very fun so dw. they do loads of trips btw! like museums, galleries, plays, italy, greece, germany. the westminster kids are very clever btw as expected lol but they never rubbed it in bc for them that’s just their norm.
anything else pls ask :smile:

That’s really helpful thank you!

Reply 8

Hi - would you say people like their time at Harris Westminster in terms of friends and extra curricular activities? I'm not too worried about the work - just keen to ensure i make good friends and get to do interesting things outside of A level work. Are there lots of trips? Do students get time to chill out together in the day?

Reply 9

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by sjada
Hi - would you say people like their time at Harris Westminster in terms of friends and extra curricular activities? I'm not too worried about the work - just keen to ensure i make good friends and get to do interesting things outside of A level work. Are there lots of trips? Do students get time to chill out together in the day?


hi i’d say there is defo time to hang out w friends during the school day. in free periods you can go in whatever classroom you want so you can meet w friends who have the same free period slots as you and study together or chill. there’s also break time which is from 10:40-11:05 and lunch times and form times. after school ppl hang out too bc it’s the middle of london so there r lots of nearby places to go to. also i said in a comment above that most people - boys and girls - are actually nice and just keen on doing well, meaning there’s not much time for major drama.

in terms of activities, there are like a million and one clubs including an anime club even, and every wednesday there’s ‘society’ which is mandatory. so it’s a timetabled 40 min slot but dw it’s somewhat fun bc there’s a range of societies like classics, chemistry, medsoc etc and you choose which one you wanna attend for the year.

there are many trips and activities. off the top of my head i remember there’s charity basketball, olympiads, linguistics deciphering, networking events esp for law and apprenticeships and there’s lab time every tuesday where you can either study independently or attend a lecture by guest speakers that the school brings in every week from any field eg historians, engineers, businesspeople, chemists. ofc there’s ‘sport’ too which is mandatory and timetabled and tbh a lot of ppl don’t like it bc it sucks being forced to do a sport every week if you’re not rly interested or busy or tired (and the sch takes attendance for it VERY seriously like immediate detentions if you’re even one minute late to it), but ig some other people find it relaxing and fun. there’s lots to choose from but you may not end up doing the one you pick on the form as it may be oversubscribed that term, but it’s fine because you can change every term so you’ll get other chances to do the sports you want. they offer walking, running, dodgeball, yoga, boxfit etc

Reply 10

Hey
I was one of the students that was on the waiting list at the lowest priority and I managed to get in yesterday because of my GCSE results... I'm guessing. I was really settled by going to my sixth form and my world has been completely flipped in the past 2 days.
I feel incredibly sad that I am leaving my friends in my current school as they are really dear to me. I'm a type of person who is terrified of change and even though I don't mind meeting new people, its just stressful for me to find myself friends again who I truly trust and love. Does the school organise events or like trips where you get to bond with these completely new people? When I was applying to kings college maths school (unfortunately I didn't get in) they said that at the start of year 12 they have a week long camping trip to get to know each other and make friends. Is there similar things in this school?
Yesterday, I went to the school and it was really intimidating about how strict and posh the school was, especially by the 'Welcome Pack' 😅. Can anyone please tell me if the school is really this strict when it comes to: being ill and missing school, uniform, homework etc. ? I usually get ill quite often and I don't know what the school will say about it, since I don't have a diagnosed medical condition or anything.
Another question: does the school not have a cafeteria or provide lunch? Because on the Welcome Pack it stated that you can go out to eat, but the school is in Central London, wouldn't that be extremely expensive for students? Should I just bring my own packed lunch at this point, or does anyone know some cheaper places we can go out to eat?
The A levels I'm choosing are Maths, Further Maths, Physics and Chemistry. I saw someone say that the school allows you to drop an a level at the end of year 12, so is this like an AS level or do they just fully drop it? Because I would love to do an EPQ but I don't want to fully drop chemistry. I know that the a level is very hard so I don't want to do the full a level, imo. Has the school allowed students to do AS levels?
Thank you so incredibly much for putting this much effort into answering everyone's questions, it really does genuinely help and makes it feel less like i'm just plunging myself into darkness. :smile:

Reply 11

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by NinoWar21
Hey
I was one of the students that was on the waiting list at the lowest priority and I managed to get in yesterday because of my GCSE results... I'm guessing. I was really settled by going to my sixth form and my world has been completely flipped in the past 2 days.
I feel incredibly sad that I am leaving my friends in my current school as they are really dear to me. I'm a type of person who is terrified of change and even though I don't mind meeting new people, its just stressful for me to find myself friends again who I truly trust and love. Does the school organise events or like trips where you get to bond with these completely new people? When I was applying to kings college maths school (unfortunately I didn't get in) they said that at the start of year 12 they have a week long camping trip to get to know each other and make friends. Is there similar things in this school?
Yesterday, I went to the school and it was really intimidating about how strict and posh the school was, especially by the 'Welcome Pack' 😅. Can anyone please tell me if the school is really this strict when it comes to: being ill and missing school, uniform, homework etc. ? I usually get ill quite often and I don't know what the school will say about it, since I don't have a diagnosed medical condition or anything.
Another question: does the school not have a cafeteria or provide lunch? Because on the Welcome Pack it stated that you can go out to eat, but the school is in Central London, wouldn't that be extremely expensive for students? Should I just bring my own packed lunch at this point, or does anyone know some cheaper places we can go out to eat?
The A levels I'm choosing are Maths, Further Maths, Physics and Chemistry. I saw someone say that the school allows you to drop an a level at the end of year 12, so is this like an AS level or do they just fully drop it? Because I would love to do an EPQ but I don't want to fully drop chemistry. I know that the a level is very hard so I don't want to do the full a level, imo. Has the school allowed students to do AS levels?
Thank you so incredibly much for putting this much effort into answering everyone's questions, it really does genuinely help and makes it feel less like i'm just plunging myself into darkness. :smile:


hi ml :smile:
i’m sorry you’ve been going though a lot of change lately and i get what you mean about the new environment being stressful, especially at a school like harris. i was completely the same, but i made it through despite some really tough times and i fr believe you can too. and you can always pm me over your next two years at harris for advice on anything! i unofficially mentored lots of y12s last year and would give them resources and help bc i know how hard these things can be, so i’d be happy to do the same w you if you wish <3

1. so we didn’t have a week long trip to get to know eachother haha but the first two weeks were defo dedicated to helping us acclimate to the school and get to know eachother. they eased us in on those first two weeks by allowing us to go to lunch a little earlier to avoid the queues, and also by not setting us proper hw. we would have extended form time to get to know people in our form at least, and we’d play games and have fun. also, there’s this thing called ‘funky fridays’ where the y13s organise a mini event in the hall every friday so you can go to these activities w your friends and have fun & meet new people. i remember before they had karaoke, scavenger hunts, face painting etc. there are also so many house events and things like house drama and house music. so dw there’s lots of opportunities to make new friends. even during our timetabled lessons there are opportunities, because we had things like society every wednesday or cps (cultural perspectives) twice a week.

2. the school is strict w homework in the sense that they’ll give you detentions if you fail to complete it without a good excuse or letting them know in advance. if you let them know your reasons at least two days before the due date, they are much more lenient and give extensions. also be on time to your lessons!!! my chem teacher would kick us out for the whole lesson if we were even a minute late 💔 regarding uniform, i posted a long reply already discussing what we typically wore. main things to avoid are trainers and jeans. if you breach the dresscode, you’ll get a warning once or twice then a detention if you keep doing it. regarding being ill, that’s totally fine although they rly expect you to catch up w the work you miss asap. but low attendance can be an issue. i’ll pm you more about this because i have personal experiences which may give you more insight but it’s kinda private and i don’t want it being all over here lol.

3. the sch defo has a canteen!!! dw!! they probs just mentioned going out to eat in the welcome pack as a way to emphasise the fun opportunities students have because of the nice central london location. some people would go to pret every day and get coffee and sandwiches w friends. others would go places like wingstop or mcdonald’s often. a lot of ppl brought packed lunches esp if they had a lunchtime club they needed to attend or hw to finish, and a lot of other students went to the canteen where they serve decent food like chicken and chips, cakes etc (tbh idk much about the canteen food tho as i never got food from there but it always looked nice when my friends got it). people normally just saw how they felt on the day and decided where to eat based on that. for example, some people would eat packed lunches everyday but if their friends were all going to itsu one time, they’d go out and eat w them yk? so it’s very flexible. but yes it can be very expensive and that’s why a lot of students didn’t eat out every single day and instead brought packed lunch.

4. the school does not offer any AS apart from i think geography maybe??? i could be wrong abt that tho but either way they defo don’t offer it for any other subjects. so if you drop chem at the end of y12 they’ll make you do an epq in y13 and you won’t get any AS chem qualifications or anything like that. btw, yes the school lets you drop subjects but you have to have decent reasons for it. like you have to pretend to be interested in doing an epq rather than just saying ‘chem is hard and sucks and i think i’ll fail lol’. so closer to the time just prepare what you’ll say to the teacher to make things more convincing. btw!! regarding the AS thing, well the school does offer core maths which is technically an AS, but because it’s only a one year course, they make you do an epq still in y13 so that you’ll have something to do in y13 (bc you do core maths in y12). this is an uncommon choice tho and it’s more complicated now because they changed their rules. i don’t mean to yap so much but i wanna explain this for you and anyone else reading because it may be relevant and was initially confusing for me. basically, when i was at harris, they had a policy where if you do two science A-levels, you MUST also do a form of maths (so either maths a-level or core maths+epq). now this sucks for people who just wanna do science or wanna do med/dent/pharm but don’t wanna do maths A-level or are not great at it (and maths A-level is a big commitment bc it’s quite hard tbh) (also it’s not required for most med/dent/pharm unis!). so the workaround for this for a lot of people (including me) was to do pick the core maths + epq option, because core maths is super easy tbh and it’s only for one year. yeah it’s not rly respected at the school even by the teachers, and i got bullied for doing it because it’s ‘easy maths’ but i don’t regret my decision. the thing is though, after my year, they changed that policy so now you can freely do two sciences without needing to do any maths (rip 🥲) so i imagine core maths will be an even less popular choice now. btw a lot of unis don’t even count your core maths qualification so it’s a bit useless imo…

sorry my replies are so bloody long. there’s just so much to say and i rly wanna make you as well informed as possible. i was a rly scared y12 who didn’t know anything abt the school and learnt things the hard way, so i hope i can just make others feel better. anymore questions pls ask! :smile:

Reply 12

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by Flower2007!
hi i’d say there is defo time to hang out w friends during the school day. in free periods you can go in whatever classroom you want so you can meet w friends who have the same free period slots as you and study together or chill. there’s also break time which is from 10:40-11:05 and lunch times and form times. after school ppl hang out too bc it’s the middle of london so there r lots of nearby places to go to. also i said in a comment above that most people - boys and girls - are actually nice and just keen on doing well, meaning there’s not much time for major drama.
in terms of activities, there are like a million and one clubs including an anime club even, and every wednesday there’s ‘society’ which is mandatory. so it’s a timetabled 40 min slot but dw it’s somewhat fun bc there’s a range of societies like classics, chemistry, medsoc etc and you choose which one you wanna attend for the year.
there are many trips and activities. off the top of my head i remember there’s charity basketball, olympiads, linguistics deciphering, networking events esp for law and apprenticeships and there’s lab time every tuesday where you can either study independently or attend a lecture by guest speakers that the school brings in every week from any field eg historians, engineers, businesspeople, chemists. ofc there’s ‘sport’ too which is mandatory and timetabled and tbh a lot of ppl don’t like it bc it sucks being forced to do a sport every week if you’re not rly interested or busy or tired (and the sch takes attendance for it VERY seriously like immediate detentions if you’re even one minute late to it), but ig some other people find it relaxing and fun. there’s lots to choose from but you may not end up doing the one you pick on the form as it may be oversubscribed that term, but it’s fine because you can change every term so you’ll get other chances to do the sports you want. they offer walking, running, dodgeball, yoga, boxfit etc

Thank you so much - that's really helpful

Reply 13

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by Flower2007!
hi :smile: so as the title says i went to hwsf!
i know hwsf isn’t the most conventional sixth form like they have a lot of diff rules and therefore things can get complicated. and there’s also their partnership with westminster school which can be tricky to get your head around if you’re doing a westminster subject. (i did one btw so feel free to ask me about how that works if you’re also doing one!)
just wanted to create a space for people to ask me any questions they have because i realised a lot of people are curious and confused about a lot of things. also feel free to pm me instead if there are any questions you don’t want to post publicly xx


*** med, dent applicants ***

someone asked me on another hwsf thread about how well the school helps w ucat and interviews and what support they offer. i thought it’s a good and important question so i’ll copy and paste the answer i gave them below:

so in terms of ucat help given by teachers, the school actually had a ucat prep cultural perspectives class that you could sign up for towards the end of year 12. it was led by the head of bio last yr but he left, but if it’s still running for your year then i’m sure the school will get a teacher who is relevant in science/med to lead it. we would go through the format of the ucat and do practice questions as a class and individually. basically cultural perspectives are timetabled lessons that you will have twice a week in y12. it’s meant to be on fun interesting topics tho and you sign up for a different one every term. for example, last year i remember attending cps on medieval islamic inventions, classics, westminster walking and ucat (this one is less on the fun side and more academic as you can imagine).

in terms of help given more by the students, we have medsoc and it’s one of the societies you can sign up for to do every wednesday (everyone has to sign up to do a society on wednesdays as it’s a timetabled lesson). it’s run and led by students but there is always a teacher present so it stays on track. because there is no official dentistry society to sign up for, the official medsoc caters to ppl doing both med and dent. there are many medsoc classes as it’s quite popular and there are about 15-20 ppl in each one. in medsoc, the student presidents would do extensive ucat practice towards the end of y12 and interview prep. in my medsoc, the presidents set up mmi stations where students would rotate and take turns being the interviewer and interviewee. we did that for a couple months until everyone had finished their interviews. btw in the first part of the year like before ppl are doing ucat and interviews, everyone in the society takes turns doing a presentation on a medical topic and that’s like the bulk of the sessions.

we do still have a dentistry society though but it’s a student led lunchtime club so it’s less formal but still helpful. the bulk of the sessions throughout the year are on random dental topics the students wanna talk about, and there are sometimes fun activities to do like learning to suture. and again towards the end of y12, the presidents of that club will do extensive ucat prep via giving presentations on it and going through difficult questions. they may also do presentations on interviews and even mmi practice if there is time.

regarding interview help given by the teachers, everyone applying for med and dent had to sign up to do mock interviews with teachers towards the end of y12. basically we all had to stay after school or whenever our slot was and did a full mmi mock rotation with different teachers and there were the different stations eg maths, ethics, current affairs. we then got written feedback from each teacher. btw the interviewers were like bio/chem teachers w med/dent application expertise, the head of ucas guy, and the school even hired some external teachers to be actors in the roleplaying stations. i think this experience was v v helpful and made me feel more comfortable w interviews.

outside of school tho, it was also popular for students to sign up for interview prep sessions like the free event ones run by universities. for example, in y12 i attended one at st george’s, and in y13 i went to one at king’s. at those events the uni students gave some talks at the start w advice on the whole application process, then we did a full mock mmi rotation and got written feedback.

anymore questions pls ask! i have experience w both med and dent applications, wex for both, and ucat. i mentored y12s in medsoc last year and sent them some resources throughout the year too :smile:

Reply 14

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by Sophia0834
Do you actually get 14hrs of homework a week or is that an exaggeration, if so how do you actually cope with it all? Do you have a timetable or just go with it, if so what’s your timetable like?
Do you genuinely have time for things you enjoy other than studying during the school term? Or do those have to wait until the holidays?
On the website it says holidays should be spent productively, what does this mean? Do they have lots of expectations of things you should be doing?
Do they give you lots of homework in the holidays?
Do you commute far (mine would be an 1hr 10min), if so is this tiring and does it make things harder?
Do the teachers put a lot of pressure on you?
If you’re not doing as good in a subject as you should be, are they supportive or do they expect you to figure things out by yourself?
Are the people nice? (I go to a grammar school right now and I find that some people are stuck up and arrogant as they see themselves as smarter than others)
And especially when you go for a Westminster subject, do the Westminster students look down on the Harris ones?
Sorry that’s a lot xx


I wouldn’t says total exaggeration, but it heavily depends on the time of the year (it fluctuates a lot). at the beginning, absolutely not I was getting barely anything (maybe like 9 max) until end of October? then it gets quiteee busy during response week - esp when cp responses are due. honestly, it depends on your teacher and what they feel like, but it definitely isn’t odd to get 14 or maybe more.

I will say that it isn’t as scary as it sounds however, as it’s very spread out across the week, so it doesn’t really feel like 14 hours a lot of the time.

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by Sophia0834
Do you actually get 14hrs of homework a week or is that an exaggeration, if so how do you actually cope with it all? Do you have a timetable or just go with it, if so what’s your timetable like?
Do you genuinely have time for things you enjoy other than studying during the school term? Or do those have to wait until the holidays?
On the website it says holidays should be spent productively, what does this mean? Do they have lots of expectations of things you should be doing?
Do they give you lots of homework in the holidays?
Do you commute far (mine would be an 1hr 10min), if so is this tiring and does it make things harder?
Do the teachers put a lot of pressure on you?
If you’re not doing as good in a subject as you should be, are they supportive or do they expect you to figure things out by yourself?
Are the people nice? (I go to a grammar school right now and I find that some people are stuck up and arrogant as they see themselves as smarter than others)
And especially when you go for a Westminster subject, do the Westminster students look down on the Harris ones?
Sorry that’s a lot xx


holiday “read, rest, review” thing is nonsense, ltr no one is working intensively unless there’s mocks/exams after the holiday.

There’s a timetable given at the beginning of the year for subjects, but homework isn’t included. Typically your teachers will kinda set a day where they set assignments on teams, but there’s nothing concrete.

many people have other engagements like sports or cadets during term time, so it honestly depends on your time management.

my commute is 1hr 20, and many people come from outside london (Surrey, Kent, Brighton, Essex etc) so it’s normal dw - consequently many people stay behind, or go to the pret next door to get all their work done after school before going home.

the amount of homework given depends massively on the subject. from what I’ve heard, essay subjects (especially English) tend to give more, usually long readings and essay practice. sciences (especially maths and physics) usually have tests (like 1 hr) on the first week back, so the homework will be to revise.

id say the teachers don’t insanely pressure you personally. There is an academic culture created in the school, but I would say the teachers will facilitate the effort you show them - you get what you give. It’s expected that because you’re older the motivation will come from inside you.

Despite this, there is still support - if your consistently performing poorly in a subject, you’ll be put in mandatory intervention, but even will this it’s still your duty to attend, no one is going to be chasing you persay. Teachers are always there to support you - but nothing will really come to you if you don’t speak up (e.g. asking to be put in intervention if you weren’t referred)

Reply 16

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by NinoWar21
Hey
I was one of the students that was on the waiting list at the lowest priority and I managed to get in yesterday because of my GCSE results... I'm guessing. I was really settled by going to my sixth form and my world has been completely flipped in the past 2 days.
I feel incredibly sad that I am leaving my friends in my current school as they are really dear to me. I'm a type of person who is terrified of change and even though I don't mind meeting new people, its just stressful for me to find myself friends again who I truly trust and love. Does the school organise events or like trips where you get to bond with these completely new people? When I was applying to kings college maths school (unfortunately I didn't get in) they said that at the start of year 12 they have a week long camping trip to get to know each other and make friends. Is there similar things in this school?
Yesterday, I went to the school and it was really intimidating about how strict and posh the school was, especially by the 'Welcome Pack' 😅. Can anyone please tell me if the school is really this strict when it comes to: being ill and missing school, uniform, homework etc. ? I usually get ill quite often and I don't know what the school will say about it, since I don't have a diagnosed medical condition or anything.
Another question: does the school not have a cafeteria or provide lunch? Because on the Welcome Pack it stated that you can go out to eat, but the school is in Central London, wouldn't that be extremely expensive for students? Should I just bring my own packed lunch at this point, or does anyone know some cheaper places we can go out to eat?
The A levels I'm choosing are Maths, Further Maths, Physics and Chemistry. I saw someone say that the school allows you to drop an a level at the end of year 12, so is this like an AS level or do they just fully drop it? Because I would love to do an EPQ but I don't want to fully drop chemistry. I know that the a level is very hard so I don't want to do the full a level, imo. Has the school allowed students to do AS levels?
Thank you so incredibly much for putting this much effort into answering everyone's questions, it really does genuinely help and makes it feel less like i'm just plunging myself into darkness. :smile:


hi! From personal experience, I can say that the school is extremely accommodating of any illness, whether it be physical or mental, and they will prioritise your well-being over any concerns about attendance. Ms Cambpell (attendance monitor) is an absolute gem!

It’s a decently sized year group, so I’ll say in terms of making friends it’ll happen at some point in the first few weeks. I went in not knowing anyone, and within 2 weeks I had a stable friend group with regular arrangements for lunch and break so rest assured you’ll find people!

The school isn’t actually that strict haha they just like to scare new y12s - it’s actually quite chill, with most teachers being very fair.

Lunch in school is £2.68 for a main meal and water/dessert (usually jelly, ice cream of fruit). Outside, the cheapest you could get lunch would be £3-5 (greggs, tesco meal deal, or chips/kebab boxes from market stalls).

we don’t do AS qualifications except from geography, so you’re not dropping an alevel per say but swapping it for an EPQ. You’ll walk away from the subject you swapped with no qualification. We also don’t teach most subjects in order, rather it’s done thematically (e.g. in maths some year2 content is taught in year 1 and vice versa), so it would be hard to separate AS and A level.

Reply 17

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by sjada
Hi - would you say people like their time at Harris Westminster in terms of friends and extra curricular activities? I'm not too worried about the work - just keen to ensure i make good friends and get to do interesting things outside of A level work. Are there lots of trips? Do students get time to chill out together in the day?


there’s a BUNCH of extra-curriculars to get into, and even during half terms and long breaks there’s always opportunities being emailed! Many cultural perspectives offer something very niche (e.g. f1 racing, growing fruits, geopolitics, sewing) so they make sure that your very well-rounded.

I genuinely have loved my time here so far - it’s a decent sized year group so there’s loads of friends to make!

People sometimes chill in their frees (usually after mocks haha) or before/after school.

For trips, yes and no? only one residential that isn’t subject-related, but there’s usually small trips (usually in/around london) to do with subjects. There’s some cool, non-academic ones tho - like trips to see the ABBA show for £10, and the Dear England play also for £10!

Reply 18

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by Flower2007!
hi :smile: so as the title says i went to hwsf!
i know hwsf isn’t the most conventional sixth form like they have a lot of diff rules and therefore things can get complicated. and there’s also their partnership with westminster school which can be tricky to get your head around if you’re doing a westminster subject. (i did one btw so feel free to ask me about how that works if you’re also doing one!)
just wanted to create a space for people to ask me any questions they have because i realised a lot of people are curious and confused about a lot of things. also feel free to pm me instead if there are any questions you don’t want to post publicly xx

Heyy ,
1.Do you have to do 4 a-levels and can an epq count as one so bio chem English lit and an epq.
2.Do you think those subjects are manageable.
3.And is it true you can get a free iPad you have to give back and if you do how do you qualify for it.
4.Do you have to complete any presentations in lesson.
5.Can you leave in Lunch?
6.Did most people get 8/9 in their chosen subjects?
7.What did you write on your initial application to Harris ,like did you put your mock grades and stuff and do you have any tips to doing it
Thanks :smile:
(edited 6 months ago)

Reply 19

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by detectable-infor
Heyy ,
1.Do you have to do 4 a-levels and can an epq count as one so bio chem English lit and an epq.
2.Do you think those subjects are manageable.
3.And is it true you can get a free iPad you have to give back and if you do how do you qualify for it.
4.Do you have to complete any presentations in lesson.
5.Can you leave in Lunch?
6.Did most people get 8/9 in their chosen subjects?
7.What did you write on your initial application to Harris ,like did you put your mock grades and stuff and do you have any tips to doing it
Thanks :smile:


hiya :biggrin:

1) yes you have to start with 4 a levels but at the end of y12 you can drop a subject and do epq instead. you can’t start y12 doing just 3 subjects and an epq though

2) yes defo! i did bio, chem, latin, epq, core maths (and i’m someone who hates studying and procrastinates) and i managed so you 100% can too. don’t let anyone scare you into thinking otherwise

3) the free ipad thing is only if you do a westminster subject (which i did). so yeah i got a free ipad from westminster without having to qualify or do anything (apart from going to collect it from IT lol) and i had to give it back after a levels. i actually forgot and ended up giving it back on results day and they were super fine about it

4) sometimes but it’s not often and not that scary. in y12 i did maybe 3/4 presentations throughout the year, and in y13 i did maybe 2. in society you do a presentation every year. in cps you often do a presentation at the end of the term. there’s also a presentation if you do epq. pm me iyw and i can give a lot more detail abt the epq stuff x

5) yes 100%

6) i don’t know exact number but it’s not as many as you think. it’s not so much like brampton for example where the students told me if i didn’t get at least an 8 i shouldn’t bother doing the subject. if you got like a 7 or smth then it’s fine. actually i was surprised at the sets of grades some people got (not in a bad way) considering how selective the school is. it’s actually not the most common thing for everyone to have gotten 8/9s (although it is at westminster). my friend for example got 5/6/7s and maybe one or two 8/9s and they were still super clever like top of the class and managed just fine.

7) so so sorry but i can’t remember the application process much. i assume it was just a simple form where you put personal details and grades? (defo mock grades would’ve been included). maybe you can lmk more info
abt it like what questions they’re asking and i’ll see if i remember :smile:

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