A levels for Finance/economics?
My son just started 6th form at a new school and his original A level choices where Math, FM, economics and biology.
He since decided that FM would be too difficult despite getting the required 9 in GCSEs. He thinks he doesn’t need it but after looking at entry requirements I think he does!
I think we can still change back as it’s only been a couple of days.
He’s also not sure if he should do biology as he originally planned as it’s his favourite science or if he should change to French as it will be easier for him and he doesn’t think biology will necessarily be better then French.
Should he change to Math, FM, economics and French, stay with Maths, biology and economics. Or Maths, Economics, French?
He did quite well in GCSEs 9999887777.
I didn’t go through the English system so feel confused and I’m not sure he knows what’s best either.
He since decided that FM would be too difficult despite getting the required 9 in GCSEs. He thinks he doesn’t need it but after looking at entry requirements I think he does!
I think we can still change back as it’s only been a couple of days.
He’s also not sure if he should do biology as he originally planned as it’s his favourite science or if he should change to French as it will be easier for him and he doesn’t think biology will necessarily be better then French.
Should he change to Math, FM, economics and French, stay with Maths, biology and economics. Or Maths, Economics, French?
He did quite well in GCSEs 9999887777.
I didn’t go through the English system so feel confused and I’m not sure he knows what’s best either.
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by HsthestudentMy son just started 6th form at a new school and his original A level choices where Math, FM, economics and biology.
He since decided that FM would be too difficult despite getting the required 9 in GCSEs. He thinks he doesn’t need it but after looking at entry requirements I think he does!
I think we can still change back as it’s only been a couple of days.
He’s also not sure if he should do biology as he originally planned as it’s his favourite science or if he should change to French as it will be easier for him and he doesn’t think biology will necessarily be better then French.
Should he change to Math, FM, economics and French, stay with Maths, biology and economics. Or Maths, Economics, French?
He did quite well in GCSEs 9999887777.
I didn’t go through the English system so feel confused and I’m not sure he knows what’s best either.
He since decided that FM would be too difficult despite getting the required 9 in GCSEs. He thinks he doesn’t need it but after looking at entry requirements I think he does!
I think we can still change back as it’s only been a couple of days.
He’s also not sure if he should do biology as he originally planned as it’s his favourite science or if he should change to French as it will be easier for him and he doesn’t think biology will necessarily be better then French.
Should he change to Math, FM, economics and French, stay with Maths, biology and economics. Or Maths, Economics, French?
He did quite well in GCSEs 9999887777.
I didn’t go through the English system so feel confused and I’m not sure he knows what’s best either.
Hi there, there are a lot of variables here that should inform your decision. When you say 'looking at the entry requirements', if a uni has explicitly stated they favour FM students, then yes I would agree he should take it if he is able to secure a good grade. Secondly, from what I know of Econ and from fellow students doing Finance, biology is not seen as more or less valued than french by university admissions. If he thinks he could secure a better grade in French then Bio, I don't see why he shouldn't switch. Maths, Further Maths, Economics, and French would seemingly therefore be the most competitive combination, as students who take only three A-Levels including FM are not viewed favourably, so the French (particularly if he is able to secure a top grade) would finalise his grade combo.
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Thank you, I think this would be his best option as well, he is almost fluent in French so should be able to get a good grade and would be easier therefore then biology. He’s worried FM will be difficult but I think he is quite natural in math so would be fine especially as he got a 9 in GCSEs?
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by riley1500Hi there, there are a lot of variables here that should inform your decision. When you say 'looking at the entry requirements', if a uni has explicitly stated they favour FM students, then yes I would agree he should take it if he is able to secure a good grade. Secondly, from what I know of Econ and from fellow students doing Finance, biology is not seen as more or less valued than french by university admissions. If he thinks he could secure a better grade in French then Bio, I don't see why he shouldn't switch. Maths, Further Maths, Economics, and French would seemingly therefore be the most competitive combination, as students who take only three A-Levels including FM are not viewed favourably, so the French (particularly if he is able to secure a top grade) would finalise his grade combo.
as students who take only three A-Levels including FM are not viewed favourably,
Not necessarily true - check the entry requirements for each individual Uni.
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by HsthestudentMy son just started 6th form at a new school and his original A level choices where Math, FM, economics and biology.
He since decided that FM would be too difficult despite getting the required 9 in GCSEs. He thinks he doesn’t need it but after looking at entry requirements I think he does!
I think we can still change back as it’s only been a couple of days.
He’s also not sure if he should do biology as he originally planned as it’s his favourite science or if he should change to French as it will be easier for him and he doesn’t think biology will necessarily be better then French.
Should he change to Math, FM, economics and French, stay with Maths, biology and economics. Or Maths, Economics, French?
He did quite well in GCSEs 9999887777.
I didn’t go through the English system so feel confused and I’m not sure he knows what’s best either.
He since decided that FM would be too difficult despite getting the required 9 in GCSEs. He thinks he doesn’t need it but after looking at entry requirements I think he does!
I think we can still change back as it’s only been a couple of days.
He’s also not sure if he should do biology as he originally planned as it’s his favourite science or if he should change to French as it will be easier for him and he doesn’t think biology will necessarily be better then French.
Should he change to Math, FM, economics and French, stay with Maths, biology and economics. Or Maths, Economics, French?
He did quite well in GCSEs 9999887777.
I didn’t go through the English system so feel confused and I’m not sure he knows what’s best either.
No Uni requires or prefers 4 A levels - the only exception to this is anyone heading for a maths-heavy STEM course where the extra Maths skills will be useful once doing the degree. FM is preferred by the likes of LSE or UCL who use 'taking FM' as a way of culling their application numbers for Maths heavy degrees, but this doesnt mean they require/prefer 4 A levels..
Economics / Maths is a good combination, and French opens up 'study abroad' or 'with French' degree possibilities, but remember that if he just wants to keep his language skills 'current', most Unis will offer extra-curricular language classes that students can take alongside any degree.
Btw, your son may also be assuming that he needs FM because its mentioned in the entry requirements, when there are usually grade/subject requirements listed for those not taking FM. He does need to check entry requirements carefully. Examples :
BSc Economics and Mathematics | Study at Bristol | University of Bristol -
A*A*A including A* in Mathematics and A in another mathematics-related subject*, or A*AA including A*A (in any order) in Mathematics and Further Mathematics. *Mathematics-related subjects include Biology; Chemistry; Computer Science; Economics; and Physics.
Economics, Finance and Data Science BSc | Study | Imperial College London - A*AA including A* in Mathematics, and AA in two other subjects (Further Mathematics and/or Economics are useful, but not required).
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by McGingerNo Uni requires or prefers 4 A levels - the only exception to this is anyone heading for a maths-heavy STEM course where the extra Maths skills will be useful once doing the degree. FM is preferred by the likes of LSE or UCL who use 'taking FM' as a way of culling their application numbers for Maths heavy degrees, but this doesnt mean they require/prefer 4 A levels..
Economics / Maths is a good combination, and French opens up 'study abroad' or 'with French' degree possibilities, but remember that if he just wants to keep his language skills 'current', most Unis will offer extra-curricular language classes that students can take alongside any degree.
Btw, your son may also be assuming that he needs FM because its mentioned in the entry requirements, when there are usually grade/subject requirements listed for those not taking FM. He does need to check entry requirements carefully. Examples :
BSc Economics and Mathematics | Study at Bristol | University of Bristol -
A*A*A including A* in Mathematics and A in another mathematics-related subject*, or A*AA including A*A (in any order) in Mathematics and Further Mathematics. *Mathematics-related subjects include Biology; Chemistry; Computer Science; Economics; and Physics.
Economics, Finance and Data Science BSc | Study | Imperial College London - A*AA including A* in Mathematics, and AA in two other subjects (Further Mathematics and/or Economics are useful, but not required).
Economics / Maths is a good combination, and French opens up 'study abroad' or 'with French' degree possibilities, but remember that if he just wants to keep his language skills 'current', most Unis will offer extra-curricular language classes that students can take alongside any degree.
Btw, your son may also be assuming that he needs FM because its mentioned in the entry requirements, when there are usually grade/subject requirements listed for those not taking FM. He does need to check entry requirements carefully. Examples :
BSc Economics and Mathematics | Study at Bristol | University of Bristol -
A*A*A including A* in Mathematics and A in another mathematics-related subject*, or A*AA including A*A (in any order) in Mathematics and Further Mathematics. *Mathematics-related subjects include Biology; Chemistry; Computer Science; Economics; and Physics.
Economics, Finance and Data Science BSc | Study | Imperial College London - A*AA including A* in Mathematics, and AA in two other subjects (Further Mathematics and/or Economics are useful, but not required).
Thank for your reply, we are finding it quite hard looking through each university course to see what requirements they have and then apparently it isn’t always all you need to reach the requirements to get accepted either, a lot of the finance related courses at the most desirable universities do say they value FM but that it isn’t obligatory but what I have heard is that it is hard to get in without it. I don’t think Biology will give him any advantages over French in this field so I think it may be wise to change as he will find French easier. I think he thought he should have 2 steam subjects and didn’t want physics or chemistry so chose biology but not sure if it is better regarded or opens more doors then french actually? I would like him to start with further maths and we can see if he feels he can handle it for a good grade or not.
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by HsthestudentThank for your reply, we are finding it quite hard looking through each university course to see what requirements they have and then apparently it isn’t always all you need to reach the requirements to get accepted either, a lot of the finance related courses at the most desirable universities do say they value FM but that it isn’t obligatory but what I have heard is that it is hard to get in without it. I don’t think Biology will give him any advantages over French in this field so I think it may be wise to change as he will find French easier. I think he thought he should have 2 steam subjects and didn’t want physics or chemistry so chose biology but not sure if it is better regarded or opens more doors then french actually? I would like him to start with further maths and we can see if he feels he can handle it for a good grade or not.
say they value FM but that it isn’t obligatory but what I have heard is that it is hard to get in without it
Marketing legislation means that Unis now have to be totally upfront about subjects they require or prefer - ie. they cannot pretend to be ambiguous about FM and then select on that basis. If you son is worried about this, I suggest he emails each Uni and explicitly asks them so that he then has their reassurance in writing.
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by HsthestudentMy son just started 6th form at a new school and his original A level choices where Math, FM, economics and biology.
He since decided that FM would be too difficult despite getting the required 9 in GCSEs. He thinks he doesn’t need it but after looking at entry requirements I think he does!
I think we can still change back as it’s only been a couple of days.
He’s also not sure if he should do biology as he originally planned as it’s his favourite science or if he should change to French as it will be easier for him and he doesn’t think biology will necessarily be better then French.
Should he change to Math, FM, economics and French, stay with Maths, biology and economics. Or Maths, Economics, French?
He did quite well in GCSEs 9999887777.
I didn’t go through the English system so feel confused and I’m not sure he knows what’s best either.
He since decided that FM would be too difficult despite getting the required 9 in GCSEs. He thinks he doesn’t need it but after looking at entry requirements I think he does!
I think we can still change back as it’s only been a couple of days.
He’s also not sure if he should do biology as he originally planned as it’s his favourite science or if he should change to French as it will be easier for him and he doesn’t think biology will necessarily be better then French.
Should he change to Math, FM, economics and French, stay with Maths, biology and economics. Or Maths, Economics, French?
He did quite well in GCSEs 9999887777.
I didn’t go through the English system so feel confused and I’m not sure he knows what’s best either.
The factors to be considered first would be:
1.
Will your son like and be able to do well at FM even if he changed one subject to French (sometimes if it's a native language that can be seen less favourably) .
2.
Will he be able to manage 4 A levels and a good result with 4. There is no point to having 4 if it denies meeting the asking grade for 3 A levels.
If there is no specific reason to take Biology, then I feel French would be a better choice. It will provide a humanities subject in the mix which shows different skills. There are also some joint courses available with economics and a modern language should that be something he might want to explore. Biology is not giving any extra value except if he can do better at that subject. Even if he does economics as a joint degree, FM will be helpful especially if he chooses to do the more advanced modules in economics.
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by UnisterThe factors to be considered first would be:
If he does feel like he can do 4 A levels, with one of them being FM, then I would try it as it could make things easier should he go for an economics course - particularly at a higher end university. Even if it is not specifically asked for it does help because economics can have a lot of maths.
If there is no specific reason to take Biology, then I feel French would be a better choice. It will provide a humanities subject in the mix which shows different skills. There are also some joint courses available with economics and a modern language should that be something he might want to explore. Biology is not giving any extra value except if he can do better at that subject. Even if he does economics as a joint degree, FM will be helpful especially if he chooses to do the more advanced modules in economics.
1.
Will your son like and be able to do well at FM even if he changed one subject to French (sometimes if it's a native language that can be seen less favourably) .
2.
Will he be able to manage 4 A levels and a good result with 4. There is no point to having 4 if it denies meeting the asking grade for 3 A levels.
If there is no specific reason to take Biology, then I feel French would be a better choice. It will provide a humanities subject in the mix which shows different skills. There are also some joint courses available with economics and a modern language should that be something he might want to explore. Biology is not giving any extra value except if he can do better at that subject. Even if he does economics as a joint degree, FM will be helpful especially if he chooses to do the more advanced modules in economics.
(sometimes if it's a native language that can be seen less favourably) .
The last time I checked it was only LSE that was clinging onto this - all other Unis don't care, and its mainly because if they realised that if they accept A levels in Welsh, English or Irish then not accepting A levels in Arabic, Mandarin or French would be essentially racist - regardless of how you think that admissions staff can determine if someone is a 'native' speaker or not.
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My son is speaking to his teachers today to see what they think is best. I think changing to French from biology is a good idea as he will have a better chance of achieving A* that will help any application. Math and economics will stay as are and further maths would be great if he can get a A/ A* But possibly not a disaster if he decides not to take FM as long as he achieve at least A*AA. He should still be able to get in to a good university maybe not LSE.
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by McGingeras students who take only three A-Levels including FM are not viewed favourably,
Not necessarily true - check the entry requirements for each individual Uni.
Not necessarily true - check the entry requirements for each individual Uni.
I think for someone who appears so often on these feeds, you should not recommend people to take Further Maths alongside only 2 other A-Levels. This is quite a common idea amongst teachers and advisers in sixth forms now, perhaps it was different if you have not been in education in recent years.
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by riley1500I think for someone who appears so often on these feeds, you should not recommend people to take Further Maths alongside only 2 other A-Levels. This is quite a common idea amongst teachers and advisers in sixth forms now, perhaps it was different if you have not been in education in recent years.
Have you got a reliable source for your assumption about Maths/FM and 3 A levels 'not viewed favourably'.
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by McGingerHave you got a reliable source for your assumption about Maths/FM and 3 A levels 'not viewed favourably'.
"This subject is taken in addition to A level Mathematics and is taken as a fourth A level alongside your normal studies."
"It is recommended to take Further Mathematics as a fourth A-Level, so that students still cover a range of subjects, allowing for multiple pathways in the future."
"A Level Further Maths is a fully taught option that is available only as a 4th A Level"
Just a couple quotes from the first sixth form centres that came up when viewing Further Maths as an A-Level option.
If you're looking for specific sources, AMSP are pretty clear "The AMSP strongly encourages you to enable A level Further Mathematics to be taken as fourth A level, even if your students are usually only permitted to take three A levels.".
This may be what your confusion is about, "Although some students take A level Further Mathematics as part of a three subject programme, this can narrow the university courses they can apply for, and if they find A level Further Mathematics too challenging, they may not be able to complete three full A levels."
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In waiting to see what the teacher thinks I have had a look at economics/ finance courses on top universities and most of the entry requirements do seem more achievable then I thought or am I missing something?
UCL A*( Maths) AA FM is a plus but not required
LSE A*(in Maths)AA FM and economics desirable
ICL A*AA
These seemed the highest
But then
ST Andrews only AAA A in maths!
Durham AAB B in maths a
Even Oxford only require
A*AA But I guess they rely heavily on their own test? TSA?
I think A* AA should be totally achievable with an A* in maths
so if further maths really isn’t required maybe it would be silly to add the work…?
UCL A*( Maths) AA FM is a plus but not required
LSE A*(in Maths)AA FM and economics desirable
ICL A*AA
These seemed the highest
But then
ST Andrews only AAA A in maths!
Durham AAB B in maths a
Even Oxford only require
A*AA But I guess they rely heavily on their own test? TSA?
I think A* AA should be totally achievable with an A* in maths
so if further maths really isn’t required maybe it would be silly to add the work…?
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by riley1500"This subject is taken in addition to A level Mathematics and is taken as a fourth A level alongside your normal studies."
"It is recommended to take Further Mathematics as a fourth A-Level, so that students still cover a range of subjects, allowing for multiple pathways in the future."
"A Level Further Maths is a fully taught option that is available only as a 4th A Level"
Just a couple quotes from the first sixth form centres that came up when viewing Further Maths as an A-Level option.
If you're looking for specific sources, AMSP are pretty clear "The AMSP strongly encourages you to enable A level Further Mathematics to be taken as fourth A level, even if your students are usually only permitted to take three A levels.".
This may be what your confusion is about, "Although some students take A level Further Mathematics as part of a three subject programme, this can narrow the university courses they can apply for, and if they find A level Further Mathematics too challenging, they may not be able to complete three full A levels."
"It is recommended to take Further Mathematics as a fourth A-Level, so that students still cover a range of subjects, allowing for multiple pathways in the future."
"A Level Further Maths is a fully taught option that is available only as a 4th A Level"
Just a couple quotes from the first sixth form centres that came up when viewing Further Maths as an A-Level option.
If you're looking for specific sources, AMSP are pretty clear "The AMSP strongly encourages you to enable A level Further Mathematics to be taken as fourth A level, even if your students are usually only permitted to take three A levels.".
This may be what your confusion is about, "Although some students take A level Further Mathematics as part of a three subject programme, this can narrow the university courses they can apply for, and if they find A level Further Mathematics too challenging, they may not be able to complete three full A levels."
What you appear to have quoted is advice from three self-selected schools. It is not therefore irrefutable proof that taking 3 A levels including FM is actually viewed unfavourably by Universities but I do not intend to argue the point with you.
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by HsthestudentIn waiting to see what the teacher thinks I have had a look at economics/ finance courses on top universities and most of the entry requirements do seem more achievable then I thought or am I missing something?
UCL A*( Maths) AA FM is a plus but not required
LSE A*(in Maths)AA FM and economics desirable
ICL A*AA
These seemed the highest
But then
ST Andrews only AAA A in maths!
Durham AAB B in maths a
Even Oxford only require
A*AA But I guess they rely heavily on their own test? TSA?
I think A* AA should be totally achievable with an A* in maths
so if further maths really isn’t required maybe it would be silly to add the work…?
UCL A*( Maths) AA FM is a plus but not required
LSE A*(in Maths)AA FM and economics desirable
ICL A*AA
These seemed the highest
But then
ST Andrews only AAA A in maths!
Durham AAB B in maths a
Even Oxford only require
A*AA But I guess they rely heavily on their own test? TSA?
I think A* AA should be totally achievable with an A* in maths
so if further maths really isn’t required maybe it would be silly to add the work…?
Unis are reluctant to dictate that FM is essential because many schools are simply not able to offer it - and that has implications for the Unis commitment for widening University access, as it would inherently favour those from better resourced and/or more selective schools.
If FM is not listed as preferred or required for the courses you want to apply for it could be a waste of time/effort. Remember that you can always start FM and drop it later, and if its not a specific offer condition, even after you have an offer.
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by McGingerWhat you appear to have quoted is advice from three self-selected schools. It is not therefore irrefutable proof that taking 3 A levels including FM is actually viewed unfavourably by Universities but I do not intend to argue the point with you.
I could find a hundred more, but it seems a finite number would not appease you. You also appear to have ignored the independent source of AMSP, who are well known and respected in the field. I am also not one to "argue", I just hope you take on board that perhaps the modern view of FM from an admissions standpoint may differ from your own, so keep this in mind in your comments.
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For finance FM isn't necessary for any "straight" finance courses I'm aware of, and I expect it'd be overkill for the vast majority of such courses. Really outside of "financial mathematics/statistics" or actuarial science type courses I think FM is probably not especially beneficial in that realm.
For economics FM is preferred or implicitly required by a very small number of universities (basically Cambridge and LSE plus maybe UCL and Warwick). It's very useful for any economics degree but one wouldn't be disadvantaged to apply without it except those unis (and even among those, Warwick does in fact state that it's not required and applicants without it wouldn't be prejudiced for not having it, although the Warwick course is especially mathematical it's worth noting). Notably Oxford does not to my knowledge have any special preference for it either (albeit I think it's still reasonably common for history & economics and economics & management applicants to be taking it; PPE applicants it's less common I believe).
Note though LSE specifically do indicate for single honours economics (and the joint honours variants with maths) that they expect FM to be taken if offered. For joint honours courses with other subjects (e.g. philosophy, politics, economic history) I don't believe they have the same expectation. They will expect the referee to explain that the school does not offer it if the applicant isn't taking it and indicate that applicants without it would be less competitive (and given something like 95% or more of successful applicants in most years have it I suspect it would render one non-competitive for that course to have it offered but not take it).
Equally though worth considering - if he's not enthused by FM then he may find those very mathematical economics courses less appealing anyway. Also it's important to keep in mind economics as a degree is not a "training course" for finance - it's an academic field in its own right and if his main interest is finance rather than economics itself, then it'd probably be better to aim for a finance degree anyway (equally, one doesn't need either an economics nor a finance degree to work in finance as a graduate anyway, so if he actually really loves Egyptian hieroglyphs he can certainly go study Egyptology at e.g. Oxford then become an investment banker!).
Outisde of that and the requisite ("regular") mathematics (which is required for the vast majority of economics degrees in the UK), his other subjects are really up to him. A-level Economics is not required by any economics degree I'm aware of, and biology and French are equally acceptable for those or really any other course that doesn't specifically require either biology (which would be primarily bioscience or health professions degrees) or French (which would be essentially just French degrees). So whichever he has a better chance of a better grade would be the best option there (although A-levels in languages are known to be quite intensive and require a lot of work so I wouldn't necessarily consider an "easy" option!).
For economics FM is preferred or implicitly required by a very small number of universities (basically Cambridge and LSE plus maybe UCL and Warwick). It's very useful for any economics degree but one wouldn't be disadvantaged to apply without it except those unis (and even among those, Warwick does in fact state that it's not required and applicants without it wouldn't be prejudiced for not having it, although the Warwick course is especially mathematical it's worth noting). Notably Oxford does not to my knowledge have any special preference for it either (albeit I think it's still reasonably common for history & economics and economics & management applicants to be taking it; PPE applicants it's less common I believe).
Note though LSE specifically do indicate for single honours economics (and the joint honours variants with maths) that they expect FM to be taken if offered. For joint honours courses with other subjects (e.g. philosophy, politics, economic history) I don't believe they have the same expectation. They will expect the referee to explain that the school does not offer it if the applicant isn't taking it and indicate that applicants without it would be less competitive (and given something like 95% or more of successful applicants in most years have it I suspect it would render one non-competitive for that course to have it offered but not take it).
Equally though worth considering - if he's not enthused by FM then he may find those very mathematical economics courses less appealing anyway. Also it's important to keep in mind economics as a degree is not a "training course" for finance - it's an academic field in its own right and if his main interest is finance rather than economics itself, then it'd probably be better to aim for a finance degree anyway (equally, one doesn't need either an economics nor a finance degree to work in finance as a graduate anyway, so if he actually really loves Egyptian hieroglyphs he can certainly go study Egyptology at e.g. Oxford then become an investment banker!).
Outisde of that and the requisite ("regular") mathematics (which is required for the vast majority of economics degrees in the UK), his other subjects are really up to him. A-level Economics is not required by any economics degree I'm aware of, and biology and French are equally acceptable for those or really any other course that doesn't specifically require either biology (which would be primarily bioscience or health professions degrees) or French (which would be essentially just French degrees). So whichever he has a better chance of a better grade would be the best option there (although A-levels in languages are known to be quite intensive and require a lot of work so I wouldn't necessarily consider an "easy" option!).
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by riley1500Hi there, there are a lot of variables here that should inform your decision. When you say 'looking at the entry requirements', if a uni has explicitly stated they favour FM students, then yes I would agree he should take it if he is able to secure a good grade. Secondly, from what I know of Econ and from fellow students doing Finance, biology is not seen as more or less valued than french by university admissions. If he thinks he could secure a better grade in French then Bio, I don't see why he shouldn't switch. Maths, Further Maths, Economics, and French would seemingly therefore be the most competitive combination, as students who take only three A-Levels including FM are not viewed favourably, so the French (particularly if he is able to secure a top grade) would finalise his grade combo.
I agree
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