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Reply 40

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by Dunnig Kruger
"Well good for you guys, and too bad for the rest of us. There are several ways to break the ice with someone; I think a phrase involving the words "horses" and "courses" springs to mind here."
The "...Have you any ideas?" Mystery Gambit would NOT be used to break the ice!
It would be used at the point in the conversation where most guys would ask for her number.
It's a much better way of seeding meeting her outside of her work than asking directly for her number.
I provided the link to that video featuring Mystery in response to the Original Poster asking: "How am I supposed to ask her out with a load of customers and her colleagues around?"
I did not post it in response to him asking "How do I break the ice?"
"You can create that positivity and enthusiasm you mentioned in a number of ways... such as asking about a product in the store, and then engaging in some chit chat."
I hate highly indirect openers, such as asking a shop assistant about a product in the store. That sort of opener is too akin to asking someone in the street for directions, or the time. 🙄
Feel free to give pointers on what sort of "chit chat" to engage in - preferably something that will maximise the chances of this shop assistant meeting the original poster outside of her work.

Jeepers bro, I don't get why you seem to be taking this so personally.

I simply gave my opinion on your post; I never said outright that it was wrong or wouldn't work (I think women who work in customer service would be far better placed to comment on that aspect, than I am lol). Fair enough, I may have got the context wrong, but the main argument about different things working for different people still applies; as long as it remains on the right side of ethics etc. it doesn't matter... the OP (and others) can use whatever's comfortable for them.

As I said, you've got your thoughts / opinions, and I've got mine. I've just given my opinion on what you posted but I haven't been rude about it; and I don't think my example was as cliched as you're making out, after all, someone may have a genuine interest in said product. As for the pointers etc you asked for, I'll post them if the OP asks for specific examples; I CBA to post something for the sake of winning an internet debate; as I frankly have other, more important tasks to do.

As per my previous response, we can agree to disagree. I haven't shouted you down saying "I'm right, you're wrong". Seriously let it go man, it's not that deep. 😄

Reply 41

I feel like it's a delicate situation.i don't know how to approach it anymore or should I just give it time.

Reply 42

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by Anonymous
I feel like it's a delicate situation.i don't know how to approach it anymore or should I just give it time.

Yea give it time

Reply 43

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by Anonymous
Yea give it time


I feel like some of the workers there don't like me they may possibly think I'm after the first girl but my gut instinct tells me the second girl is into me

Reply 44

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by Anonymous
I feel like it's a delicate situation.i don't know how to approach it anymore or should I just give it time.

No, it's not delicate at all!
They are just shop assistants. You are just a young man looking to share some of your valuable time with and go on adventures with a woman that you get on well with.
There's great advice on how to approach these situations - available for free from youtube.
Or you can go ahead give it your best shot without getting any more advice.

If you get rejected it's fine. Some other girl will come along sooner or later with whom you'll form a relationship.

You're a decent guy en route to becoming a great guy.

There's no time like the present. Strike now! Don't hesitate.

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by Anonymous
I feel like some of the workers there don't like me they may possibly think I'm after the first girl but my gut instinct tells me the second girl is into me

Game the whole shop! Look to spread some sunshine and happiness to everyone in there that you interact with.
If they don't like you for you being a positive version of you, then that's their look-out. You should still be that positive version anyway.

And less thinking and less worrying and more action!

Your social interactions will be like you casting seeds. Sometimes they will land on stony ground, sometimes amongst the weeds and sometimes on good clear soil...
The more you cast and the better your casting and the better your seeds, the more you'll harvest...

Reply 45

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by Anonymous
I feel like some of the workers there don't like me they may possibly think I'm after the first girl but my gut instinct tells me the second girl is into me

There you go again... over-thinking the situation, and making it more complicated than it needs to be.

If some of the other workers there don't like you, who cares? Seriously, as I said in the other post, as long as you are prepared to take "no" for an answer, and you don't start getting weird / creepy, it's none of their business. This is between you and the girl in question... no one else needs to get involved (unless your mate does some "investigation work" on your behalf lol). If they've really got a problem with your presence, they can inform the store manager and let them deal with it.

I feel like it's a delicate situation.i don't know how to approach it anymore or should I just give it time.

No, I don't feel you should give this any more time... Just find out where you stand (one way or another), and get it over and done with. You're always going to find some BS excuse to delay & procrastinate; you don't want to drag this out for months like the last time, because as that saying goes, "tomorrow never comes". The sooner you find out where you stand, the sooner you can have some fun with her or get over the rejection and find someone else to obsess over. Not to mention all the potential other girls you may let slip through your fingers because you miss the signs being so hyper-focused on this one. Either make your move soon, or just leave it.

I know you feel like "she's the one you're meant to be with" yadda yadidy yadda, but even if it doesn't work out, I promise that you'll feel the same way about some other girl in a few months (or even weeks).

P.S. You never know when "Chad" might start sniffing around her one day, and sweep her off her feet... then your chance has gone forever 🤣😢😉
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by Old Skool Freak
There you go again... over-thinking the situation, and making it more complicated than it needs to be.

If some of the other workers there don't like you, who cares? Seriously, as I said in the other post, as long as you are prepared to take "no" for an answer, and you don't start getting weird / creepy, it's none of their business. This is between you and the girl in question... no one else needs to get involved (unless your mate does some "investigation work" on your behalf lol). If they've really got a problem with your presence, they can inform the store manager and let them deal with it.


No, I don't feel you should give this any more time... Just find out where you stand (one way or another), and get it over and done with. You're always going to find some BS excuse to delay & procrastinate; you don't want to drag this out for months like the last time, because as that saying goes, "tomorrow never comes". The sooner you find out where you stand, the sooner you can have some fun with her or get over the rejection and find someone else to obsess over. Not to mention all the potential other girls you may let slip through your fingers because you miss the signs being so hyper-focused on this one. Either make your move soon, or just leave it.

I know you feel like "she's the one you're meant to be with" yadda yadidy yadda, but even if it doesn't work out, I promise that you'll feel the same way about some other girl in a few months (or even weeks).

P.S. You never know when "Chad" might start sniffing around her one day, and sweep her off her feet... then your chance has gone forever 🤣😢😉


Yes, all of this basically.

We come back to the eternal question, “why didn’t she choose me, the nice guy?” Well, the cocky guy actually got on with it and asked her.

Reply 47

Original post
by Old Skool Freak
There you go again... over-thinking the situation, and making it more complicated than it needs to be.
If some of the other workers there don't like you, who cares? Seriously, as I said in the other post, as long as you are prepared to take "no" for an answer, and you don't start getting weird / creepy, it's none of their business. This is between you and the girl in question... no one else needs to get involved (unless your mate does some "investigation work" on your behalf lol). If they've really got a problem with your presence, they can inform the store manager and let them deal with it.
No, I don't feel you should give this any more time... Just find out where you stand (one way or another), and get it over and done with. You're always going to find some BS excuse to delay & procrastinate; you don't want to drag this out for months like the last time, because as that saying goes, "tomorrow never comes". The sooner you find out where you stand, the sooner you can have some fun with her or get over the rejection and find someone else to obsess over. Not to mention all the potential other girls you may let slip through your fingers because you miss the signs being so hyper-focused on this one. Either make your move soon, or just leave it.
I know you feel like "she's the one you're meant to be with" yadda yadidy yadda, but even if it doesn't work out, I promise that you'll feel the same way about some other girl in a few months (or even weeks).
P.S. You never know when "Chad" might start sniffing around her one day, and sweep her off her feet... then your chance has gone forever 🤣😢😉


If some of the workers there don't like me then they probably have talked about me. Word may have spread to the girl who I fancy but not idk I got friendly vibes from her when I saw her

Reply 48

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by Admit-One
Yes, all of this basically.
We come back to the eternal question, “why didn’t she choose me, the nice guy?” Well, the cocky guy actually got on with it and asked her.
PRSOM

Reply 49

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by Anonymous
If some of the workers there don't like me then they probably have talked about me. Word may have spread to the girl who I fancy but not idk I got friendly vibes from her when I saw her

Again, this is all speculation, over-thinking and over-complication! Look, if you're getting "friendly vibes" from the girl you like, then where's the evidence that any of the negativity from the last time has got back to the girl in question? If it had, she'd be colder to you and more aloof.... moreover, if that happens, then there's not a lot you can do about it; you just have to put this fantasy to bed and move on to someone else (preferably somewhere else lol)

Don't pay the other staff there any attention and do your own thing; I'm sure they've got other things to occupy their time, rather than gossiping about one strange customer. Besides, I'm sure this girl is capable of making up her own mind about the people she encounters. If anything, the threat of "gossip" about you getting back to her should spur you on to act before it definitely does.

I'm sorry to say this, but from these last few posts, I'll be very very VERY surprised if this doesn't end-up being a repeat of the last episode... unless you pull your finger out and stop over-analysing every tiny detail and catastrophising it. And I'm wanning you the same thing will keep happening again and again (and again); and you'll never end up with anyone and be alone... until / unless you make a conscious effort to change how you manage / process your thoughts and actions.

The problems isn't with the other people there, the problem is with you.

Reply 50

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by Anonymous
If some of the workers there don't like me then they probably have talked about me. Word may have spread to the girl who I fancy but not idk I got friendly vibes from her when I saw her

So what? What is it that you need here before you will actually ask her? An absolute guarantee that she will say yes? Because you will never have that. Ever. The problem, which is one that a lot of people have, is that you are so afraid of rejection you never actually ask. Which ironically means that you end up with nothing, which is also what you would end up with if you were rejected. The only way to have any hope of a positive outcome is to actually ask.

Sure, rejection doesn't feel nice in the moment. But nothing actually happens. It's a slightly awkward social interaction, and then you move on. It's a fact of life, and all you do by trying to avoid it is remove your chances of getting what you want.

The only thing that needs to happen here now is you asking her. All the thinking, rumination and assessing is not making any difference at all. Just get out of your own way and ask her.

Reply 51

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by Old Skool Freak
Again, this is all speculation, over-thinking and over-complication! Look, if you're getting "friendly vibes" from the girl you like, then where's the evidence that any of the negativity from the last time has got back to the girl in question? If it had, she'd be colder to you and more aloof.... moreover, if that happens, then there's not a lot you can do about it; you just have to put this fantasy to bed and move on to someone else (preferably somewhere else lol)
Don't pay the other staff there any attention and do your own thing; I'm sure they've got other things to occupy their time, rather than gossiping about one strange customer. Besides, I'm sure this girl is capable of making up her own mind about the people she encounters. If anything, the threat of "gossip" about you getting back to her should spur you on to act before it definitely does.
I'm sorry to say this, but from these last few posts, I'll be very very VERY surprised if this doesn't end-up being a repeat of the last episode... unless you pull your finger out and stop over-analysing every tiny detail and catastrophising it. And I'm wanning you the same thing will keep happening again and again (and again); and you'll never end up with anyone and be alone... until / unless you make a conscious effort to change how you manage / process your thoughts and actions.
The problems isn't with the other people there, the problem is with you.


I say I get friendly vibes from her but she would have said hello or something as we got closer? Why look down?

Let's say the next I go and I see her walking past what do I do if she behaves exactly like this again?

Me and my mate saw her and we both started smiling initially we made eye contact but looked away she started smiling as well but was looking down

Reply 52

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by Anonymous
I say I get friendly vibes from her but she would have said hello or something as we got closer? Why look down?
Let's say the next I go and I see her walking past what do I do if she behaves exactly like this again?
Me and my mate saw her and we both started smiling initially we made eye contact but looked away she started smiling as well but was looking down

Again, forget about the small details, and just go on what the bigger picture is telling you overall. Why is she looking down? Only she knows... maybe she's shy or really struggles with eye contact... or maybe she's looking at something on her phone (OSLT). It could be several other things, but the fact that she's smiling when you show your ugly mug suggests that it's not because she's displeased to see you. This is your problem... as @Crazy Jamie said, you're looking for a cast iron guarantee that she'll say yes... so much so that you're hyper-focused on the ONE ambiguous sign she's doing and ignoring all the other positive signs. Look, not even Harry Styles is guaranteed a "yes" in every approach (maybe she preferred JLS 😉 ) . Nonetheless, I suggest you think about this like buying a car or something... you find one you really fall in love with ... but then you find out that it's got a high mileage, it's got a relatively small scratch on the bumper or maybe the clutch is slipping slightly... would all these things put you off it if you really liked the car? Maybe... but you're more likely to take these things into account when negotiating a better price to purchase, no? Same sort of thing here, if the majority of the signs are good, then one small thing shouldn't stop you from approaching her.

Let's say the next I go and I see her walking past what do I do if she behaves exactly like this again?

Next time, smile at her, chat in your usual fashion and then give her at least one compliment on how she looks (keep it respectful, nothing too sexually obvious). How should you give your compliment?... Well as cliched as it sounds, just Be Yourself.... Actually, forget that, if you just "be yourself" you're going to look for another "feek & weeble" excuse to talk yourself out of doing it, and we don't want that now do we?!?. What I mean here is that you can't use what you haven't got. Some people here might tell you "to be funny" (or whatever), which is fine if you're naturally a funny, cheeky kind of guy... but if that isn't you, it's likely to result in a cringeworthy effort... so just use what natural (positive) elements you have about your personality, and exploit it. If you're funny, be funny; if you're creative, then be creative; if you're fashionable, then show it. If she doesn't like whatever side of you you show, then you can take it as a sign you probably weren't suited anyway. For example, girls typically go to a lot of effort to look a certain way, so it's nice when guys notice it. Has she had a new hairstyle? If she normally wears her hair "up", and one day she has it "down", do you acknowledge that? If they can dress in their own clothes, maybe comment on how a particular top really suits her... on the other hand, if she has to wear a uniform, and your chats are more like banter, then you could say something somewhat cheesy like "Only you can make that uniform look good". and give a cheeky wink.

The compliment will discretely tell her that you're interested in her, without making it too obvious (girls have a 6th sense for this kind of thing🤫). If she suddenly gives you the cold shoulder, then you know she wasn't interested. ON the other hand, if she laps up your compliment, and you later notice her wearing more of the stuff you compliment her on, then it's a good sign she's at least tolerating your presence and attention.

Me and my mate saw her and we both started smiling initially we made eye contact but looked away she started smiling as well but was looking down

Please see the first part of this post about over-thinking every minute thing she does.

Reply 53

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by Crazy Jamie
So what? What is it that you need here before you will actually ask her? An absolute guarantee that she will say yes? Because you will never have that. Ever. The problem, which is one that a lot of people have, is that you are so afraid of rejection you never actually ask. Which ironically means that you end up with nothing, which is also what you would end up with if you were rejected. The only way to have any hope of a positive outcome is to actually ask.
Sure, rejection doesn't feel nice in the moment. But nothing actually happens. It's a slightly awkward social interaction, and then you move on. It's a fact of life, and all you do by trying to avoid it is remove your chances of getting what you want.
The only thing that needs to happen here now is you asking her. All the thinking, rumination and assessing is not making any difference at all. Just get out of your own way and ask her.

This.

As well as all the other motivational quotes such as "Fortune favours the bold" or "He who dares, wins" or even "Pain is temporary, but glory lasts forever" etc. here's a particularly good one that always motivates me when I need to do something daunting:-

"Ships are safest when they are in the harbour... but that's NOT what ships were built for" (Seriously, think about it)

Reply 54

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by Anonymous
What does it mean if a girl who I've interacted with a few times walks past me smiling to herself as she walks past me whilst looking down. Initially she looks at me. we made eye contact but then she looked down.
As she got closer her smile got even bigger. My mate said why is that girl smiling like that
She is a really shy girl and isn't the type to interact in public. She's reserved

She sounded pleased to see you. Given the fact she’s somewhat shy and reserved, for some reason it seems she feels more comfortable around you compared to others. But, as you’ve only had a few interactions, it’s likely she was just being friendly in passing, especially if she seems like a nice person. Or, she likes you. Depends on the context and the quality of previous interactions. Has the smiling only happened once, and have you spoken to her since?

Reply 55

i wouldn't jump to conclusions, she might just have been thinking about something else

Reply 56

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by ibelieve-icanfly
i wouldn't jump to conclusions, she might just have been thinking about something else


Well she saw me and my mate smiling then she started smiling and looked down. Maybe as she got closer she looked up but idk

Reply 57

Here we go again

https://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/showthread.php?t=7630938

EDIT:- I see that this thread was started the same time as the other one, and someone else had bumped it, probably because it had no replies, and they were unaware of your other thread.

Still, you could have said that it was being covered in the other thread, rather than wasting peoples time, telling you things that are identical to the previous one.
(edited 3 weeks ago)

Reply 58

I went today didn't see her after 2 months No one gave me dirty looks and I didn't get a telling off by managers. The girls working on tills were polite but as I was walking away they both started laughing their heads off
I see we’ve reverted to the same meek, fruitless behaviour again.

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