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Can I get new predicted grades while still in Y13???

Hello, I was wondering if anybody had any knowledge or extra information in regards to my query as it would mean a lot.

I'm currently in Y13 and my school being super strict screwed me over giving me AAB and not increasing any of my grades at all. I however need AAA to apply to the degree apprenticeships I was aiming for. I'm not trying to apply to any universities at all so I don't need any references or anything to do with UCAS. I was wondering if it was possible to get predicted grades from accredited tutors and use those predicted grades instead of my school ones but I'm not sure if you're allowed to do that.

Please tell me can you get new predicted grades from tutors while still in school or is that service only for people taking exams privately or for gap years?? If its the first case id also appreciate it if you could recommend some good tutors, preferably on the cheaper side and in London.

Thank you so much for reading :smile:

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Reply 1

Have you asked your school if they are able to up your predicted grades?

Reply 2

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by DerDracologe
Have you asked your school if they are able to up your predicted grades?

I have, I made my dad write a letter three times saying that I deserve AAA and why. They said its not in line with school policy, and there is no 'negotiation' :frown:

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by diqw9uduewoig
I have, I made my dad write a letter three times saying that I deserve AAA and why. They said its not in line with school policy, and there is no 'negotiation' :frown:

That is unfortunate
@McGinger @artful_lounger
Original post
by diqw9uduewoig
Hello, I was wondering if anybody had any knowledge or extra information in regards to my query as it would mean a lot.

I'm currently in Y13 and my school being super strict screwed me over giving me AAB and not increasing any of my grades at all. I however need AAA to apply to the degree apprenticeships I was aiming for. I'm not trying to apply to any universities at all so I don't need any references or anything to do with UCAS. I was wondering if it was possible to get predicted grades from accredited tutors and use those predicted grades instead of my school ones but I'm not sure if you're allowed to do that.

Please tell me can you get new predicted grades from tutors while still in school or is that service only for people taking exams privately or for gap years?? If its the first case id also appreciate it if you could recommend some good tutors, preferably on the cheaper side and in London.

Thank you so much for reading :smile:


If your school won't change your predicted grades then you'll just need to apply in a gap year with achieved grades. Albeit you can also apply with predicted grades and see if they make you a conditional offer requiring you achieve AAA anyway.

I think paying some external tutor to predict you grades for a qualification you're doing with another provider is going to raise more red flags than not, personally...it'd be like applying for a job using some external recruiting company as your reference instead of you know, your previous job.

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by diqw9uduewoig
Hello, I was wondering if anybody had any knowledge or extra information in regards to my query as it would mean a lot.
I'm currently in Y13 and my school being super strict screwed me over giving me AAB and not increasing any of my grades at all. I however need AAA to apply to the degree apprenticeships I was aiming for. I'm not trying to apply to any universities at all so I don't need any references or anything to do with UCAS. I was wondering if it was possible to get predicted grades from accredited tutors and use those predicted grades instead of my school ones but I'm not sure if you're allowed to do that.
Please tell me can you get new predicted grades from tutors while still in school or is that service only for people taking exams privately or for gap years?? If its the first case id also appreciate it if you could recommend some good tutors, preferably on the cheaper side and in London.
Thank you so much for reading :smile:

What grade are you actually working at?

I am held to account for my predictions and so are the rest of the staff. Hardly anyone ever misses their firm.

There is no point in over-predicting.

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by DerDracologe
That is unfortunate
@McGinger @artful_lounger

What is the point of over-predicting? It really doesn't help nor does this advice! The OP might not be working at an A grade or anywhere near it.

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by Muttley79
What is the point of over-predicting? It really doesn't help nor does this advice! The OP might not be working at an A grade or anywhere near it.

It’s called empathy and encouragement :yep:

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by DerDracologe
It’s called empathy and encouragement :yep:

No, it's called foolishness - what's the point of someone ending up in clearing? Teachers have a professional DUTY to give accurate preditions for the student's best interests - that means getting the grades for their firm.

Reply 9

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by Muttley79
What grade are you actually working at?
I am held to account for my predictions and so are the rest of the staff. Hardly anyone ever misses their firm.
There is no point in over-predicting.

Hey I've been working at A*A*A for most of year 12 until my mocks, half the reason I got so low was due to my health condition which I had evidence for too but the school still said they cant predict higher because of something to do with being a grammar or what not which is very unfortunate.

Reply 10

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by Muttley79
No, it's called foolishness - what's the point of someone ending up in clearing? Teachers have a professional DUTY to give accurate preditions for the student's best interests - that means getting the grades for their firm.

It’s fine to have some aspirational choices to have something to aim for

Reply 11

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by DerDracologe
It’s fine to have some aspirational choices to have something to aim for
Yes but that does not mean teachers should inflate predicted grades!

That's a completely different thing ...

Reply 12

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by diqw9uduewoig
Hey I've been working at A*A*A for most of year 12 until my mocks, half the reason I got so low was due to my health condition which I had evidence for too but the school still said they cant predict higher because of something to do with being a grammar or what not which is very unfortunate.

You can't work at A* at first in Year 12 because you wouldn't have learnt any A* material.

Apply anyway - this has got nothing to do with you being at a Grammar school.

Reply 13

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by Muttley79
Yes but that does not mean teachers should inflate predicted grades!
That's a completely different thing ...

If the degree apprenticeships require AAA for an offer because they want a student to achieve AAA then predicting them AAA seems reasonable because if they dont get AAA then they wont get the offer anyway. Seems the same to me as getting an offer for a degree at AAA whilst only being predicted ABB. You still might miss the offer but at least the offer is there to work towards.

Reply 14

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by DerDracologe
If the degree apprenticeships require AAA for an offer because they want a student to achieve AAA then predicting them AAA seems reasonable because if they dont get AAA then they wont get the offer anyway. Seems the same to me as getting an offer for a degree at AAA whilst only being predicted ABB. You still might miss the offer but at least the offer is there to work towards.

I'm basing what I am saying on many years of teaching at three different schools. Over-prediction is foolish and serves no-one.

Studentts do get offers above predictions 'to work towards' anyway.

Reply 15

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by Muttley79
I'm basing what I am saying on many years of teaching at three different schools. Over-prediction is foolish and serves no-one.
Studentts do get offers above predictions 'to work towards' anyway.

Yes they do, thats what aspirational choices are!

Reply 16

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by DerDracologe
Yes they do, thats what aspirational choices are!
You don't need to over-predict for this though!

If you are over-predicting then aspirational choices are not sensible -

Reply 17

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by Muttley79
You don't need to over-predict for this though!
If you are over-predicting then aspirational choices are not sensible -

The OP stated that they need to be predicted AAA to apply for the degree apprenticeships they are aiming for. If they are not predicted AAA then they have no chance of getting onto these courses even if they end up achieving AAA in their a levels. They are working at A*A*A so achieving AAA seems like a good goal. Degree apprenticeships in certain fields can be hard to come by as they can be very competitive and aren’t as regular for applications as uni degrees in all cases.
Apologies @diqw9uduewoig for this tangent, i wish you the very best with your applications, perhaps consider reaching out to the organisers of the courses and explain your situation to them 🙂
(edited 1 month ago)

Reply 18

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by DerDracologe
The OP stated that they need to be predicted AAA to apply for the degree apprenticeships they are aiming for. If they are not predicted AAA then they have no chance of getting onto these courses even if they end up achieving AAA in their a levels. They are working at A*A*A so achieving AAA seems like a good goal. Degree apprenticeships in certain fields can be hard to come by as they can be very competitive and aren’t as regular for applications as uni degrees in all cases.
Apologies @diqw9uduewoig for this tangent, i wish you the very best with your applications, perhaps consider reaching out to the organisers of the courses and explain your situation to them 🙂
The OP claims to be working at A*A*A* but cannot posiibly have been working at those grades throughout Year 12 as A* content isn't taught at the beginning.

The whole post doesn't sound right as teachers don't under-predict either.

WHo knows what those A*s were based on?

The teachers know the student best and so these must be appropriate predictions.

Reply 19

Honestly, I can see both sides. In Year 12 I achieved a C in my Maths mock, and my predicted grade was a B, but I really wanted an A. My teacher told me I’d need to prove it in the Year 13 mock, which made sense to me since I wasn’t an early applicant and could just focus on improving then. At the time I was upset, but I worked extremely hard and, in the Year 13 resit mocks, I achieved an A. Now I’ve been predicted an A, which I’m really happy about, though I know there’s still a lot more work ahead.

So I agree that teachers can feel a bit harsh, but at the same time, you don’t want to be overconfident and miss your offer, especially with very competitive unis. I think it’s best for predicted grades to be realistic but ambitious it gives you motivation without putting on unmanageable pressure.

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