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extra things to do alongside my a levels to increase my chances for uni or aprenships

i am currently studying physics math's and product design(dt) i also am retaking English language in hopes of getting 6 due to most uni cores requiring it for engineering. i am hopping to find something extra i can do to make my uni application stand out when it comes time for it next year at this time i am not sure what field of engineering i want to go into but i am happy to do anything to improve my application or push me further in any of my subjects does anyone have any sugestions?

Reply 1

The main issue i saw people have each year was finding things to say in their personal statement. A lot only focused on academics and then had nothing to write about in the statement.

Try and get a part time job, join some extracurricular, something related to maths, engineering would be good but not everything, do something fun too to show you have hobbies. Take on volunteering etc

I personally did volunteering at my local Girlguides for 6 months. It was only 3 hours a week and I didnt really enjoy it but it made my statement stand out by showing i cared for my community. I had a part time retail job which showed I had commitment and good time management skills to do that alongside full tkme education, i got involved in my 6th forms eco club and helped create an eco friendly school environment, took part in a challenge that ended with my school going to London for it. I created an LGBT friendly club at my school and promoted it in front of assemblies to create an inclusive environment for everyone.

To be degree specific i did 2 virtual springpod work experiences in accounting and finance to show i wanted to learn more about the area i was applying to. (Defo check out springpod). I also did the EPQ based around my subject area and spoke on that as well as mention wider reading such as using the free resources available on the open University.

I spoke about being from a disadvantaged working background and how that shaped me as a person growing up and created this hard working ethic that led me to pursue and do so many different things.

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by Evelyn_22
The main issue i saw people have each year was finding things to say in their personal statement. A lot only focused on academics and then had nothing to write about in the statement.
Try and get a part time job, join some extracurricular, something related to maths, engineering would be good but not everything, do something fun too to show you have hobbies. Take on volunteering etc
I personally did volunteering at my local Girlguides for 6 months. It was only 3 hours a week and I didnt really enjoy it but it made my statement stand out by showing i cared for my community. I had a part time retail job which showed I had commitment and good time management skills to do that alongside full tkme education, i got involved in my 6th forms eco club and helped create an eco friendly school environment, took part in a challenge that ended with my school going to London for it. I created an LGBT friendly club at my school and promoted it in front of assemblies to create an inclusive environment for everyone.
To be degree specific i did 2 virtual springpod work experiences in accounting and finance to show i wanted to learn more about the area i was applying to. (Defo check out springpod). I also did the EPQ based around my subject area and spoke on that as well as mention wider reading such as using the free resources available on the open University.
I spoke about being from a disadvantaged working background and how that shaped me as a person growing up and created this hard working ethic that led me to pursue and do so many different things.
Do you know if any maths or engineering based coarses that are still avalible? most if the ones i have found the deadline has already passed

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by venocti
i am currently studying physics math's and product design(dt) i also am retaking English language in hopes of getting 6 due to most uni cores requiring it for engineering. i am hopping to find something extra i can do to make my uni application stand out when it comes time for it next year at this time i am not sure what field of engineering i want to go into but i am happy to do anything to improve my application or push me further in any of my subjects does anyone have any sugestions?

Hi,
Some super curricular subjects like joining competitions, course/taster sessions, reading/podcasts. Work experience e.g shadowing someone in construction, design, manufacturing or even a tech company. Setting time aside to build chances of achieving a grade 6 as that is a requirement also.

Trenyce (Kingston Rep)

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Remember that a degree is an academic course - you need to be able to show that you have the interest in Engineering topics outside your A level syllabus and that you are intrigued by bigger ideas and 'want to find out more'. Girl guides and similar do not show this and Universities will usually just ignore this stuff unless it is directly relevant to the course you are applying for.

Extra reading :
Recommended Reading for Budding Engineers | Engineering Applicant Information
STEM book list | Be inspired | Imperial College London
These suggestions' are good for all Unis Engineering courses. You dont need to read all of them - and you will be able to borrow these through your local public library (ask the librarians for their help) or get them 2nd hand on Ebay etc.

Online subject tasters :
Uni of Sheffield has lots of different online Engineering subject tasters coming up in October and November - register in advance to be sent the relevant link - Online subject tasters: Engineering | Undergraduate study | The University of Sheffield

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by McGinger
Remember that a degree is an academic course - you need to be able to show that you have the interest in Engineering topics outside your A level syllabus and that you are intrigued by bigger ideas and 'want to find out more'. Girl guides and similar do not show this and Universities will usually just ignore this stuff unless it is directly relevant to the course you are applying for.
Extra reading :
Recommended Reading for Budding Engineers | Engineering Applicant Information
STEM book list | Be inspired | Imperial College London
These suggestions' are good for all Unis Engineering courses. You dont need to read all of them - and you will be able to borrow these through your local public library (ask the librarians for their help) or get them 2nd hand on Ebay etc.
Online subject tasters :
Uni of Sheffield has lots of different online Engineering subject tasters coming up in October and November - register in advance to be sent the relevant link - Online subject tasters: Engineering | Undergraduate study | The University of Sheffield

Incorrect. I worked for uni admissions at a Russell group and its not just academics theyre interested in. They want to know you are capable of building OTHER skills to find out what kind of person you are. Students who ONLY focus on academics, specifically related to their course shows that they are incapable of putting themselves out of their comfort zone and are likely to be less adaptable to challenging situations.

Not everything is about academics, employers themselves will take someone with a 2.2 and work experience over someone with a 1st and no experience.

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by Evelyn_22
Incorrect. I worked for uni admissions at a Russell group and its not just academics theyre interested in. They want to know you are capable of building OTHER skills to find out what kind of person you are. Students who ONLY focus on academics, specifically related to their course shows that they are incapable of putting themselves out of their comfort zone and are likely to be less adaptable to challenging situations.
Not everything is about academics, employers themselves will take someone with a 2.2 and work experience over someone with a 1st and no experience.

Which University - most of your posts appear to be about Psychology and graduate schemes. And btw, no-one was asking about what employers think about 2.2 degrees.

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by McGinger
Which University - most of your posts appear to be about Psychology and graduate schemes. And btw, no-one was asking about what employers think about 2.2 degrees.

1st of all, i never mentioned 2.2 I said 2.1 and 1st. 2nd i havent spoken about psychology in years on here as im a final year accounting and finance student but appreciate you stalking my posts nonetheless.

Finally, I will not disclose which uni but it was a West midlands Russell group, my uni hires students full time during the spring and summer term in their admissions department. It was my job to answer queries such as these to prospective students, handled their ucas applications, was the go between for tutors and the applicants, handled applicant document uploads if their details such as exam certificates, IDs and respond to all their phone and email queries.

We often had notes in the system on a students application where they were close to the grade requirements and got it because their personal statement included character and growth not just because of subject specific areas.

If we had 2 applicants with the same grades and same engineering work experience but the 1 went the extra mile and volunteered in their community, or worked a part time job or joined after school clubs then we would pick the student who had done that over the one who didn't.

Im not saying its not important to have relevant reading and experiences in the field you are applying to, thats definitely a priority. What im saying is that going the extra mile to do those other things will seperate you from being the exact same as everyone else with all the same work experience and likely the same readings.

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by Evelyn_22
1st of all, i never mentioned 2.2 I said 2.1 and 1st. 2nd i havent spoken about psychology in years on here as im a final year accounting and finance student but appreciate you stalking my posts nonetheless.
Finally, I will not disclose which uni but it was a West midlands Russell group, my uni hires students full time during the spring and summer term in their admissions department. It was my job to answer queries such as these to prospective students, handled their ucas applications, was the go between for tutors and the applicants, handled applicant document uploads if their details such as exam certificates, IDs and respond to all their phone and email queries.
We often had notes in the system on a students application where they were close to the grade requirements and got it because their personal statement included character and growth not just because of subject specific areas.
If we had 2 applicants with the same grades and same engineering work experience but the 1 went the extra mile and volunteered in their community, or worked a part time job or joined after school clubs then we would pick the student who had done that over the one who didn't.
Im not saying its not important to have relevant reading and experiences in the field you are applying to, thats definitely a priority. What im saying is that going the extra mile to do those other things will seperate you from being the exact same as everyone else with all the same work experience and likely the same readings.


I have worked in Undergrad Admissions for over 30 years at many top UK Unis and overseas. There are several other very experienced Admissions staff who help out on TSR. As a student temp, your understanding of the realities of making offers to thousands of UCAS applications each year is considerably more limited.

You were not responsible for reading / assessing applications and your anecdotal example of separating just two applicants with identical grades is not convincing of your profound understanding of the process. Nor is this evidence that 'being in girl guides' will always make an offer more likely. Its also a bit concerning that you were apparently working "full time during the spring and summer terms" whilst also a full-time student.

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by McGinger
I have worked in Undergrad Admissions for over 30 years at many top UK Unis and overseas. There are several other very experienced Admissions staff who help out on TSR. As a student temp, your understanding of the realities of making offers to thousands of UCAS applications each year is considerably more limited.
You were not responsible for reading / assessing applications and your anecdotal example of separating just two applicants with identical grades is not convincing of your profound understanding of the process. Nor is this evidence that 'being in girl guides' will always make an offer more likely. Its also a bit concerning that you were apparently working "full time during the spring and summer terms" whilst also a full-time student.

Spring and summer terms have no lectures, it is perfectly fine for students to work full time during these periods. You keep singling out this girl guides part when I gave many more examples of what you can do such as volunteering and extra curriculars. The girlguides was simply what I personally did and put on my statement amongst other things. In reality, my personal statement had more on my extra curriculars than readings or work experience for my field and yet I still got my 1st choice Russell group.

Working in admin I was able to look at my own application and notes from the assessors, my personal statement was good according to them.

Whilst my experience is limited, I was involved in the process, I had to reply to students on why their application was rejected and personal statement was a frequent one. Whilst I never did the assessing myself, I did have contact with and worked with those who did and so my view is based off the tutors for those courses and what they said the reason for rejection was.

Just because the uni you have worked for doesnt operate like this doesnt mean it works across the board for every single university in the country. It certainly does not at mine. We get thousands of applicants being a Russell group uni and every is basically a copy and paste when it comes to grades and experiences, we want people who put themselves out there and show they actually have a personality outside of their choice of study.

At no point did I state that it would "always" increase your chances but it certainly makes you different to other candidates.

Reply 10

BPhO round 0, COMPOS follow along programme, Arkwright (not sure if that's open this year or next)

Reply 11

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by venocti
i am currently studying physics math's and product design(dt) i also am retaking English language in hopes of getting 6 due to most uni cores requiring it for engineering. i am hopping to find something extra i can do to make my uni application stand out when it comes time for it next year at this time i am not sure what field of engineering i want to go into but i am happy to do anything to improve my application or push me further in any of my subjects does anyone have any sugestions?


Definitely join a summer program like SMBP where you get the opportunity to have work experience for a week and you can become a ambassador after you’ve completed the program

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