Isn't this ridiculous?

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If a 50yo man has sex with an 18 yo boy or girl, people go mad, if its a 50 yo woman does it its OK.

People are really messed up.

Reply 1

Dunnig Kruger

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That's just the tip of the iceberg as to how people are illogical. And how they are socially conditioned and influenced.

Another example of messed up is: obese social workers lecturing a 95 year old with healthy dietary and exercise lifestyle habits about the risks involved in living in a cluttered hoarded detached house.

Reply 2

Utadah

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by Dunnig Kruger

That's just the tip of the iceberg as to how people are illogical. And how they are socially conditioned and influenced.
Another example of messed up is: obese social workers lecturing a 95 year old with healthy dietary and exercise lifestyle habits about the risks involved in living in a cluttered hoarded detached house.

Mine example is different because it's a gender bias, sexism. I think it's far worse.

Reply 3

Dunnig Kruger

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There's examples of this sort of stuff in so many aspects of our lives.
It's people being people.

Human beings have an amazing capacity for illogical beliefs and thought patterns, with all kinds of biases.
The world would be a better place if more people were more logical and clear thinking in what they say and do. But that's not the reality of the human species.

If you can influence people into being less biased in any particular area, then that would be a good "higher purpose" to have in life.

Reply 4

StriderHort

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You are over simplifying & assuming to the point of rendering your question meaningless.

Reply 5

Utadah

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by StriderHort

You are over simplifying & assuming to the point of rendering your question meaningless.

I am not doing that. Look around, this is common sense.

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LittleMissPidge

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by Utadah

If a 50yo man has sex with an 18 yo boy or girl, people go mad, if its a 50 yo woman does it its OK.
People are really messed up.

That's crazy neither is ok that's like a 32 year old age gap. 3 decades! 3 Decades!! Like is this not concerning?

Reply 7

s.e.i

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by Utadah

If a 50yo man has sex with an 18 yo boy or girl, people go mad, if its a 50 yo woman does it its OK.
People are really messed up.

its not ok.
No sane person would consider either situation acceptable.

Reply 8

Dunnig Kruger

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I must be insane then.

As I think it's beautiful when 2 consenting adults get together and make love with each other.

And I also think it's beautiful that adults can consent to whomever they want without interference from any person or organisation outside of the couple.

Freedom is a wonderful thing.

Tolerance is also a wonderful thing - in the context of tolerating 2 adults doing whatever they agree to and want to do with each other.

There is also the thrill and excitement and fun in doing something that's totally legal that other people, or society in general, would regard as something that shouldn't be done.

Reply 9

Admit-One

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One of those great "making up a situation to be mad about" threads.

How many people do you know in a 30+yr age gap relationship? Any? A handful? Did they seem happy? Good for them.

Reply 10

anosmianAcrimony

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by Dunnig Kruger

That's just the tip of the iceberg as to how people are illogical. And how they are socially conditioned and influenced.
Another example of messed up is: obese social workers lecturing a 95 year old with healthy dietary and exercise lifestyle habits about the risks involved in living in a cluttered hoarded detached house.

That sounds like whataboutery - regardless of the social workers' BMI, it IS dangerous for a 95-year-old to live in a cluttered hoarded detached house. The fittest 95-year-old on earth can still trip and fall, break a femur, and essentially never recover. The social workers wouldn't be doing their job right if they didn't point it out and their own state of health is hardly relevant

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Admit-One

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by anosmianAcrimony

That sounds like whataboutery - regardless of the social workers' BMI, it IS dangerous for a 95-year-old to live in a cluttered hoarded detached house. The fittest 95-year-old on earth can still trip and fall, break a femur, and essentially never recover. The social workers wouldn't be doing their job right if they didn't point it out and their own state of health is hardly relevant

"And yet my Doctor chooses to drink and smoke, isn't society absurd, hmmm?" etc. :smile:

Reply 12

ageshallnot

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by Admit-One

One of those great "making up a situation to be mad about" threads.
How many people do you know in a 30+yr age gap relationship? Any? A handful? Did they seem happy? Good for them.

Interestingly, the biggest age gap I know of personally is 29 years. And yes, they are extremely happy.

Reply 13

Dunnig Kruger

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by anosmianAcrimony

That sounds like whataboutery - regardless of the social workers' BMI, it IS dangerous for a 95-year-old to live in a cluttered hoarded detached house. The fittest 95-year-old on earth can still trip and fall, break a femur, and essentially never recover. The social workers wouldn't be doing their job right if they didn't point it out and their own state of health is hardly relevant

So who is going to tell the social workers that they are taking huge risks by having the sort of lifestyle they have, mainly in what they habitually eat and drink?

With the risk of them having a premature death being far higher than our given 95 year old?

And pointing out the risks once in a single sentence is one thing. Lecturing someone about the risks is an entirely different thing. All it does is raise the stress levels of the 95 year old.

The whole job of being a social worker in this context is ridiculous and it is quite satanically evil.
Because it's the government getting involved with the personal life of a citizen. And putting pressure on them as to how they live their life. When the reality is that the citizen has been highly sensible in their risk management in that they've paid most attention to what are by far the biggest risks.
Whilst the government employees are paying no attention to huge risks to themselves, whilst lecturing someone about an relatively small risk.
It's intolerant totalitarianism!

Reply 14

Trinculo

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On a philosophical level, the age gap thing doesn't bother me as if we have legal concepts of adulthood and a whole bunch of associated protections. At 18 you can vote, enter contracts and do all sorts of things you can't as a child. If you can't freely enter into a relationship with another adult, then what's the point? We don't say "18 year olds can vote, but we'll ignore it if they all vote Green". I fully agree that a relationship between a 50 year old and an 18 year old probably is assymetric on some level - but life's tough. That's the point of adulthood.

Anecdotally, I knew a couple - he was in his late 40s and she was a 19 year old medical student. Ended really really badly.

Reply 15

anosmianAcrimony

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by Dunnig Kruger

So who is going to tell the social workers that they are taking huge risks by having the sort of lifestyle they have, mainly in what they habitually eat and drink?
With the risk of them having a premature death being far higher than our given 95 year old?
And pointing out the risks once in a single sentence is one thing. Lecturing someone about the risks is an entirely different thing. All it does is raise the stress levels of the 95 year old.
The whole job of being a social worker in this context is ridiculous and it is quite satanically evil.
Because it's the government getting involved with the personal life of a citizen. And putting pressure on them as to how they live their life. When the reality is that the citizen has been highly sensible in their risk management in that they've paid most attention to what are by far the biggest risks.
Whilst the government employees are paying no attention to huge risks to themselves, whilst lecturing someone about an relatively small risk.
It's intolerant totalitarianism!

It's the job of the social worker to ensure the 95-year-old is safe in their home. It's not the 95-year-old's job to take care of the social worker's metabolic problems - for the same reason you presumably don't insist on giving your GP a prostate exam in return - they're not best placed to provide that care. It's facetious to even make the comparison; whatever health issues the social worker has are simply not relevant. They're a separate issue and have no bearing on the social worker's professional duties. How on earth do you not get this? It's bizarre.

Reply 16

s.e.i

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to me is just seems ridiculous that if we were talking like just one year younger all of you would probably have contradicting opinions.
how is 18 so different from 17
it isn't.
its the same thing as dating a child
Its the same thing as saying a when a girl get her periods is when she's ready to be mother.
this shouldn't be normalised.
i don't mind big age gaps as long as the younger in the relationship in at least 24. a full adult.

Reply 17

LittleMissPidge

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by s.e.i

to me is just seems ridiculous that if we were talking like just one year younger all of you would probably have contradicting opinions.
how is 18 so different from 17
it isn't.
its the same thing as dating a child
Its the same thing as saying a when a girl get her periods is when she's ready to be mother.
this shouldn't be normalised.
i don't mind big age gaps as long as the younger in the relationship in at least 24. a full adult.

Boom

Reply 18

Dunnig Kruger

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by anosmianAcrimony

It's the job of the social worker to ensure the 95-year-old is safe in their home. It's not the 95-year-old's job to take care of the social worker's metabolic problems - for the same reason you presumably don't insist on giving your GP a prostate exam in return - they're not best placed to provide that care. It's facetious to even make the comparison; whatever health issues the social worker has are simply not relevant. They're a separate issue and have no bearing on the social worker's professional duties. How on earth do you not get this? It's bizarre.

In this context, the 95 year old doesn't want to be lectured on risks associated with hoarding.
I would feel upset if prostate exams were mandatory! "For my safety!"

For 18 50 couples, how many of them do you think want to hear what others have to say about their relationship, when it's someone being "mad" about it (as the original poster put it)?

Reply 19

offbrandlegend

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by Utadah

If a 50yo man has sex with an 18 yo boy or girl, people go mad, if its a 50 yo woman does it its OK.
People are really messed up.

i agree
peopole who are denying this as being ok are the real weirdos
its natural

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