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You are allowed rest breaks or any other access arrangements in the first round of UKMT challenges. I am posting this so if someone looks this up they will find this post. Ignore the following, I'm adding keywords.
Are you allowed rest breaks in senior maths challenge?
Are you allowed rest breaks in intermediate maths challenge?
Are you allowed rest breaks in junior maths challenge?
Are you allowed laptop in senior maths challenge?
Are you allowed laptop in intermediate maths challenge?
Are you allowed laptop in junior maths challenge?
Are you allowed access arrangements in senior maths challenge?
Are you allowed access arrangements in intermediate maths challenge?
Are you allowed access arrangements in junior maths challenge?

Reply 1

If anyone in the future reads this thread and is fighting their school on this then follow the link to the UKMT page on this
https://sites.google.com/ukmt.org.uk/challengehandbook/competition-guides/access-arrangements

Reply 2

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by DerDracologe
If anyone in the future reads this thread and is fighting their school on this then follow the link to the UKMT page on this
https://sites.google.com/ukmt.org.uk/challengehandbook/competition-guides/access-arrangements

It doesn't menttion laptops though.

Reply 3

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by AltAccount00
You are allowed rest breaks or any other access arrangements in the first round of UKMT challenges. I am posting this so if someone looks this up they will find this post. Ignore the following, I'm adding keywords.
Are you allowed rest breaks in senior maths challenge?
Are you allowed rest breaks in intermediate maths challenge?
Are you allowed rest breaks in junior maths challenge?
Are you allowed laptop in senior maths challenge?
Are you allowed laptop in intermediate maths challenge?
Are you allowed laptop in junior maths challenge?
Are you allowed access arrangements in senior maths challenge?
Are you allowed access arrangements in intermediate maths challenge?
Are you allowed access arrangements in junior maths challenge?

https://ukmt.org.uk/senior-challenges/senior-mathematical-challenge

Nothing here to say laptops are allowed ...

Reply 4

Reply 5


Not that you'd really want them for a maths challenge with no points for workings

Reply 6


It does not mention laptops at all and the website says paper only.

Reply 7

Original post
by Muttley79
It doesn't menttion laptops though.

It says they honour all access arrangements, this includes word processors (laptops)

Reply 8

Original post
by DerDracologe
It says they honour all access arrangements, this includes word processors (laptops)

Yes but you need to write on the special answer sheets in pencil! A laptop can't do that!

Reply 9

Original post
by Muttley79
Yes but you need to write on the special answer sheets in pencil! A laptop can't do that!

Doesn’t mean you cant do the working out on a laptop. Most students who type in exams will be able to fill in the boxes on the answer sheet and if they are unable to do so then they should be allocated a scribe for this.

Reply 10

Original post
by DerDracologe
Doesn’t mean you cant do the working out on a laptop. Most students who type in exams will be able to fill in the boxes on the answer sheet and if they are unable to do so then they should be allocated a scribe for this.

So a laptop is a waste of time isn't?

Reply 11

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by Muttley79
So a laptop is a waste of time isn't?

No, not if the student wants to type their workings out because they have a condition which makes writing slow and/or painful for them! Some students would find having a scribe working with them for an hour or so very overwhelming and independence should be encouraged wherever possible.

Reply 12

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by DerDracologe
No, not if the student wants to type their workings out because they have a condition which makes writing slow and/or painful for them! Some students would find having a scribe working with them for an hour or so very overwhelming and independence should be encouraged wherever possible.

How much writing is actually needed for the SMC though - very little.

Scribes work for longer than an hour - my sister scribes at a uni [a degree needed for that level] and some exams are 3 hours!
(edited 2 months ago)

Reply 13

Original post
by Muttley79
How much writing is actually needed for the SMC though - very little.
Scribes work for longer than an hour - my sister scribes at a uni [a degree needed for that level] and some exams are 3 hours!

Depends on the student. Someone with a condition which impacts their writing should not be disadvantaged by this when they could use a laptop.
I am aware of this, i simply said an hour or so to illustrate that even a shorter amount of time could be challenging.

Reply 14

Original post
by DerDracologe
Depends on the student. Someone with a condition which impacts their writing should not be disadvantaged by this when they could use a laptop.
I am aware of this, i simply said an hour or so to illustrate that even a shorter amount of time could be challenging.

No - it should be their normal way of working ie all day every day or the school is acting fradulently.

Reply 15

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by Muttley79
No - it should be their normal way of working ie all day every day or the school is acting fradulently.

I agree, i think you misunderstood my comment.
If a student has difficulty writing and their normal way of working is use of a laptop then they should be allowed this in UKMT papers. They could of course have a different adjustment for maths, such as a scribe or extra time for writing if this is more appropriate for them. This again would also be their normal way of working.
What i was saying is that if a student had significant difficulty with writing was disallowed from using a laptop in a paper they would either be disadvantaged or require a scribe perhaps to write for them. For some students, using a scribe for a paper would be very difficult.

Reply 16

Original post
by DerDracologe
I agree, i think you misunderstood my comment.
If a student has difficulty writing and their normal way of working is use of a laptop then they should be allowed this in UKMT papers. They could of course have a different adjustment for maths, such as a scribe or extra time for writing if this is more appropriate for them. This again would also be their normal way of working.
What i was saying is that if a student had significant difficulty with writing was disallowed from using a laptop in a paper they would either be disadvantaged or require a scribe perhaps to write for them. For some students, using a scribe for a paper would be very difficult.

If you have to use a scribe then it isn't difficult! Some people, and I've taught one, cannot write because of cerebral palsy.

Reply 17

Original post
by AltAccount00
You are allowed rest breaks or any other access arrangements in the first round of UKMT challenges. I am posting this so if someone looks this up they will find this post. Ignore the following, I'm adding keywords.
Are you allowed rest breaks in senior maths challenge?
Are you allowed rest breaks in intermediate maths challenge?
Are you allowed rest breaks in junior maths challenge?
Are you allowed laptop in senior maths challenge?
Are you allowed laptop in intermediate maths challenge?
Are you allowed laptop in junior maths challenge?
Are you allowed access arrangements in senior maths challenge?
Are you allowed access arrangements in intermediate maths challenge?
Are you allowed access arrangements in junior maths challenge?

In all UKMT Challenges (Junior, Intermediate, and Senior), you are permitted access arrangements (including rest periods or a laptop if necessary) as long as they correspond to your regular classroom setup and are authorised by your school or exam officer. According to the UKMT, schools must provide "reasonable adjustments" to help children with special needs while maintaining fair and untimed challenge circumstances as needed.

Reply 18

Original post
by Muttley79
If you have to use a scribe then it isn't difficult! Some people, and I've taught one, cannot write because of cerebral palsy.

Depends on the student. I know someone with sm and dysgraphia so they would be unable to write legibly enough for them to read their working back and it would be slower (so not a level playfield for them) and they would also be unable to use a scribe due to their sm.

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