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Hi when looking at mpharm courses at ucl there is one called pharmacy with integrated foundation training mpharm but there is also a course just called mpharm is there a major difference between the two I haven’t seen this at a lot of other unis and was wondering if anyone could give me some more info on it

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Hi when looking at mpharm courses at ucl there is one called pharmacy with integrated foundation training mpharm but there is also a course just called mpharm is there a major difference between the two I haven’t seen this at a lot of other unis and was wondering if anyone could give me some more info on it

Hi,

The standard MPharm course is a regular four-year degree offered by most universities. After completing it, you do a one-year pre-registration training placement and pass the GPhC registration exam to become a fully qualified pharmacist.

The Pharmacy with Integrated Foundation Training MPharm at UCL is mainly for international students and includes the foundation training within the course, making it easier to secure pre-registration placement in the UK.

The degree content is essentially the same, but the integrated course combines the degree and training into a single programme.

Hope this helps,

Tayba
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Hi when looking at mpharm courses at ucl there is one called pharmacy with integrated foundation training mpharm but there is also a course just called mpharm is there a major difference between the two I haven’t seen this at a lot of other unis and was wondering if anyone could give me some more info on it

This is just UCL trying to con International students because it looks like something 'special' - it used to be that International students had to have a 1-year 'artificial' student enrolment at a Uni in order to complete their graduate UK registration training. That no longer exists as International students can now get a work visa to complete the extra year. But UCL wants to kid them that they still need to be 'at a Uni' as part of this as an arm-twister - they don't.

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This is just UCL trying to con International students because it looks like something 'special' - it used to be that International students had to have a 1-year 'artificial' student enrolment at a Uni in order to complete their graduate UK registration training. That no longer exists as International students can now get a work visa to complete the extra year. But UCL wants to kid them that they still need to be 'at a Uni' as part of this as an arm-twister - they don't.

so do you know whether it is possible to apply to both courses? as the 5 year mpharm with pre integrated training has a much lower acceptance rate compared to the normal mpharm

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McGinger

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so do you know whether it is possible to apply to both courses? as the 5 year mpharm with pre integrated training has a much lower acceptance rate compared to the normal mpharm

You need to email them and ask why you, as a UK applicant, would need to pay them an extra year's expensive University fees when actually you could do this training via the GPhC-accredited schemes and get paid £££ whilst doing it. Foundation training | General Pharmaceutical Council

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Hi,
The standard MPharm course is a regular four-year degree offered by most universities. After completing it, you do a one-year pre-registration training placement and pass the GPhC registration exam to become a fully qualified pharmacist.
The Pharmacy with Integrated Foundation Training MPharm at UCL is mainly for international students and includes the foundation training within the course, making it easier to secure pre-registration placement in the UK.
The degree content is essentially the same, but the integrated course combines the degree and training into a single programme.
Hope this helps,
Tayba
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With pre reg, do we have to find a pharmacy to do it ourselves, or does the uni help/provide details of pharmacies looking for pre-regs?

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user31708513af

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You need to email them and ask why you, as a UK applicant, would need to pay them an extra year's expensive University fees when actually you could do this training via the GPhC-accredited schemes and get paid £££ whilst doing it. Foundation training | General Pharmaceutical Council

so it is possible or not...

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Hi when looking at mpharm courses at ucl there is one called pharmacy with integrated foundation training mpharm but there is also a course just called mpharm is there a major difference between the two I haven’t seen this at a lot of other unis and was wondering if anyone could give me some more info on it

Hi! 😊

Great question — the difference you’ve spotted is exactly the type of thing many applicants ask about.

Here’s how DMU pharmacy program is tailored:

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Pharmacy MPharm (Hons) – 4-year programme This is the standard route for students who already meet (or exceed) the entry requirements (including Chemistry A-level etc). It leads to the Master of Pharmacy (MPharm) which is professionally accredited by the General Pharmaceutical Council (GPhC). De Montfort University+2Top Universities+2

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Pharmacy MPharm Year Zero – 5-year integrated programme (Year Zero + 4 years) This is ideal if you don’t have the required grades (for example no Chemistry A-level, or weaker science background). The “Year Zero” is a foundation/preparatory year in which you build the core skills in chemistry, biology, maths, IT & communication to prepare you for the main MPharm degree. After the Year Zero, you progress onto the 4-year MPharm. De Montfort University+2UCAS+2

So when you are comparing your options, you’ll need to check whether you meet the standard entry route (4-year) or if you would need the foundation Year Zero (5-year).

Because pharmacy is a demanding science-based programme, many universities require certain levels of Chemistry (and often Biology or Maths) at A-level. If you don’t have those or you feel your science background needs strengthening, a Year Zero route gives you extra support and preparation. At DMU that Year Zero is explicitly described as preparing you with “core skills in chemistry, biology, mathematics, IT and communication” in order to progress into the MPharm. De Montfort University So yes — if you don’t have Chemistry A-level (or equivalent), the Year Zero route is there for you.

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Standard 4-year MPharm: Pharmacy MPharm (Hons) at DMU De Montfort University

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Year Zero / 5-year integrated: Pharmacy MPharm Year Zero at DMU De Montfort University

How to apply

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Decide which route is appropriate based on your qualifications and background.

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Apply through UCAS by the usual deadlines.

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Make sure your predicted grades or actual grades meet the entry requirements. For the standard route at DMU that includes Chemistry (or Biology) at A-level, and a total UCAS points threshold. University Compare+1

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You may be invited for an interview/test as part of the selection process — DMU has guidance on pharmacy interviews.

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If accepting an offer, pay attention to conditions and ensure you are ready to begin in September if you meet the offer.

Best wishes,
Elmehdi - DMU representative and 3rd year Medical Science student

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With pre reg, do we have to find a pharmacy to do it ourselves, or does the uni help/provide details of pharmacies looking for pre-regs?

All pharmacy students in the UK apply through the Oriel system. You rank the pharmacies you’d like to do your training year at before sitting the exam. The Oriel exam includes pharmaceutical calculations and situational judgment scenarios, and after it’s marked, all applicants are ranked nationally. Your ranking then affects your chances of getting one of your preferred placements. Hospital placements are usually more competitive, so higher-ranked students have a better chance of securing them.

Tayba
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ringi

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Also harder to get a placement in a large UK city then in remote areas like Cornwall.

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