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Dating someone less intelligent

I’ve been seeing this girl for a few times. We met online. I go to uni, she doesn’t , and didn’t go to sixth form. She’s my type physically, she’s really into me , we’ve had physical intimacy, but I feel somethings missing. I generally like a girl to be of similar intelligence to me so we can discuss things like the news, history , which is my degree. She admits she isn’t smart. We don’t have much in common in interests. Can it work? Because I’m holding myself back right now because with my ex we had a lot in common in that we did the same degree etc, could have those conversations, but I’m not seeing it with this girl .

Reply 1

Original post
by Anonymous
I’ve been seeing this girl for a few times. We met online. I go to uni, she doesn’t , and didn’t go to sixth form. She’s my type physically, she’s really into me , we’ve had physical intimacy, but I feel somethings missing. I generally like a girl to be of similar intelligence to me so we can discuss things like the news, history , which is my degree. She admits she isn’t smart. We don’t have much in common in interests. Can it work? Because I’m holding myself back right now because with my ex we had a lot in common in that we did the same degree etc, could have those conversations, but I’m not seeing it with this girl .
I mean if you're both not really benefiting that much from the situationship I don't see why you would carry on unless you guys talk it out and both just want a casual relationship. Me personally I don't care if my partner goes to uni as long as they have a certain goal or passion the are working towards🤷🏾*♀️.

Reply 2

These are the key areas when it comes to compatibility:
Sexually compatible
Compatible in how you and her resolve conflict
Money. Earning it, spending it, investing it
Number of children desired (Plus or minus 20%)
Basic approach to raising children
Where each of you wants to live, geographically

Incompatibility in one or more of those areas is a show stopper, because they are important and there's no realistic work-arounds.

Being compatible in terms of education, intelligence, hobbies and interests is unimportant.
Wisdom is more important than education and intelligence. For example having the wisdom to avoid addiction to gambling, drinking etc.

If you want to chat about history, spend an evening with your course mates.

Focus on doing stuff with your beloved. Going on adventures and mini-adventures with her.

One thing to think about is how does she treat you? If she treats you right and you're compatible in those key areas, she's a keeper.

Also look at how she speaks to and interacts with her parents and siblings. When the honeymoon phase has worn off you can expect her to speak to you in the same way she speaks to them.

Reply 3

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by Anonymous
She admits she isn’t smart.

Ugh. This was a tough line to read. Because instead of lifting her up and reassuring her on this, you agreed with her. No doubt because you're both assuming that intelligence is measured by a person's ability to retain and regurgitate information such that they can pass exams, when it absolutely isn't. You suggest that you want to be with someone who is intelligent enough to discuss things like news and history, but the ability to discuss those things is based on whether a person has an interest in them, not whether they are intelligent. You may not be able or want to have a conversation about what I studied, which is also the industry I now work in, but that doesn't mean you're not intelligent. My wife doesn't like talking to me about that stuff generally, but she's absolutely more intelligent than I am. Equally, I expect you'd have some great conversations with my father about history because he has a very keen interest in it, but he has literally no qualifications at all because he left school without them.

This issue isn't about intelligence. It's about general compatibility. Dunning is absolutely right that you don't need to be able to speak to your girlfriend about these things. A relationship is not a black and white measure of whether you like the same things as each other. My wife and I have watched television shows and films together, been to the theatre together, been to concerts together, and read the same books as each other. But we've also watched a lot of television shows and films that the other hasn't and doesn't want to see, have read books the other has no interest in, and have had a wide range of numerous other experiences with other people because the other person doesn't share that interest. Sometimes, we've met the other half way on an interest. My wife is an absolutely superb skier. I am very much not and a ski holiday was my idea of hell when we met, but we've recently been on a ski holiday with our kids to teach them how to ski, and I put the effort in to learn how to ski to a decent level so that I could meaningfully contribute to that. I won't be going on black slopes with my wife anytime soon, but I did have fun and, as a family, we had a fantastic time. There are endless examples of this sort of thing in relationships. Breaking it down to a binary assessment of whether someone is intelligent or not entirely misses the mark, and not just because you're almost certainly very wrong about how smart she is.

You need to do two things. The first is that rather than lamenting the things she doesn't want to talk to you about, find things you can talk about. Try talking about her interests. Beyond simple conversation, there are so many things you can do as a couple. Do some of them and see what those shared experiences do for your chemistry. You shouldn't just get out of the "if she can't talk about X with me she can't be my girlfriend" because it's pretty self centred. You should get out of it because it prevents you from enjoying experiences and company that you won't have if you just stay within the confines of your own interests. You might not turn out to be compatible, because not everyone is, but you can at least then make that assessment based on having a proper go at it, rather than assuming that to be the case because she doesn't share your interests.

The second thing you need to do is to take joy in the success and happiness of your partner, and encourage that success and happiness. That means that when a girlfriend says to you that she is not smart, you do not agree with her, even by remaining silent. Because that sort of statement is not a sign that she is not smart. It is a sign that she has low self esteem. As a boyfriend, your role is to support her with that, not reinforce it. I am being entirely serious when I say that reading that line made me genuinely sad. I'm not saying you're a bad person for not rebutting that, nor indeed are you for tying intelligence to someone not sharing your interests. I might have acted and thought the same when I was your age. Experience and maturity are playing a role here, and you can only have so much of either at university. But it is something you should reflect on and improve on. It will not only make you a better partner, but it'll make your partners happier and your relationships better. It's very much in your interests to get better at this.
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Reply 4

imo having a personal connection with someone is more important that physical attraction in relationships. at first, i wasn't full sexually attracted to my ex, i mean she isnt ugly at all, just didn't do much for me, but because i liked her personality, we got on great, and she became attractive to me idk and we dated for 6 months and it was so great (we broke up because she dropped out of uni but still "see eachother" when i go back home lmao ). that might just be lesbian relationships though, winners love winning!

Reply 5

Original post
by Anonymous
I’ve been seeing this girl for a few times. We met online. I go to uni, she doesn’t , and didn’t go to sixth form. She’s my type physically, she’s really into me , we’ve had physical intimacy, but I feel somethings missing. I generally like a girl to be of similar intelligence to me so we can discuss things like the news, history , which is my degree. She admits she isn’t smart. We don’t have much in common in interests. Can it work? Because I’m holding myself back right now because with my ex we had a lot in common in that we did the same degree etc, could have those conversations, but I’m not seeing it with this girl .

Ultimately, I think you know quite well what you want out of a relationship. It seems to be that similar academic interests matters a lot to you, and despite many people on this thread making a point of the fact that compatibility shouldn't be based on 'intelligence', it differs for everyone. I think it's unfair of you to describe her as less intelligent, she likely describes herself as so due to low self esteem or having others who think intelligence = academically successful push this label down on her. As a historian you should know this! I honestly think you just might not be right for each other and you might find yourself craving interactions with her you just won't ever get. And that's okay.

Reply 6

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by beefreya
imo having a personal connection with someone is more important that physical attraction in relationships. at first, i wasn't full sexually attracted to my ex, i mean she isnt ugly at all, just didn't do much for me, but because i liked her personality, we got on great, and she became attractive to me idk and we dated for 6 months and it was so great (we broke up because she dropped out of uni but still "see eachother" when i go back home lmao ). that might just be lesbian relationships though, winners love winning!

Not sure if this also works out with straight relationships but I can vouch for this. To be super completely honest I haven't dated anyone who is the definition of the beauty standards but the emotional and intellectual connection is what fuels my attraction. Also a lesbian for clarification. Just don't date only based on looks I guess.
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by Crazy Jamie
Ugh. This was a tough line to read. Because instead of lifting her up and reassuring her on this, you agreed with her. No doubt because you're both assuming that intelligence is measured by a person's ability to retain and regurgitate information such that they can pass exams, when it absolutely isn't. You suggest that you want to be with someone who is intelligent enough to discuss things like news and history, but the ability to discuss those things is based on whether a person has an interest in them, not whether they are intelligent. You may not be able or want to have a conversation about what I studied, which is also the industry I now work in, but that doesn't mean you're not intelligent. My wife doesn't like talking to me about that stuff generally, but she's absolutely more intelligent than I am. Equally, I expect you'd have some great conversations with my father about history because he has a very keen interest in it, but he has literally no qualifications at all because he left school without them.

This issue isn't about intelligence. It's about general compatibility. Dunning is absolutely right that you don't need to be able to speak to your girlfriend about these things. A relationship is not a black and white measure of whether you like the same things as each other. My wife and I have watched television shows and films together, been to the theatre together, been to concerts together, and read the same books as each other. But we've also watched a lot of television shows and films that the other hasn't and doesn't want to see, have read books the other has no interest in, and have had a wide range of numerous other experiences with other people because the other person doesn't share that interest. Sometimes, we've met the other half way on an interest. My wife is an absolutely superb skier. I am very much not and a ski holiday was my idea of hell when we met, but we've recently been on a ski holiday with our kids to teach them how to ski, and I put the effort in to learn how to ski to a decent level so that I could meaningfully contribute to that. I won't be going on black slopes with my wife anytime soon, but I did have fun and, as a family, we had a fantastic time. There are endless examples of this sort of thing in relationships. Breaking it down to a binary assessment of whether someone is intelligent or not entirely misses the mark, and not just because you're almost certainly very wrong about how smart she is.

You need to do two things. The first is that rather than lamenting the things she doesn't want to talk to you about, find things you can talk about. Try talking about her interests. Beyond simple conversation, there are so many things you can do as a couple. Do some of them and see what those shared experiences do for your chemistry. You shouldn't just get out of the "if she can't talk about X with me she can't be my girlfriend" because it's pretty self centred. You should get out of it because it prevents you from enjoying experiences and company that you won't have if you just stay within the confines of your own interests. You might not turn out to be compatible, because not everyone is, but you can at least then make that assessment based on having a proper go at it, rather than assuming that to be the case because she doesn't share your interests.

The second thing you need to do is to take joy in the success and happiness of your partner, and encourage that success and happiness. That means that when a girlfriend says to you that she is not smart, you do not agree with her, even by remaining silent. Because that sort of statement is not a sign that she is not smart. It is a sign that she has low self esteem. As a boyfriend, your role is to support her with that, not reinforce it. I am being entirely serious when I say that reading that line made me genuinely sad. I'm not saying you're a bad person for not rebutting that, nor indeed are you for tying intelligence to someone not sharing your interests. I might have acted and thought the same when I was your age. Experience and maturity are playing a role here, and you can only have so much of either at university. But it is something you should reflect on and improve on. It will not only make you a better partner, but it'll make your partners happier and your relationships better. It's very much in your interests to get better at this.


PRSOM

Reply 8

Original post
by Anonymous
I’ve been seeing this girl for a few times. We met online. I go to uni, she doesn’t , and didn’t go to sixth form. She’s my type physically, she’s really into me , we’ve had physical intimacy, but I feel somethings missing. I generally like a girl to be of similar intelligence to me so we can discuss things like the news, history , which is my degree. She admits she isn’t smart. We don’t have much in common in interests. Can it work? Because I’m holding myself back right now because with my ex we had a lot in common in that we did the same degree etc, could have those conversations, but I’m not seeing it with this girl .

Gonna be honest when one person is academic and likes it and the other isn't, the other person gets weird about it (in my experience), idk insecurity or what, but it's also a big thing in your life you and this girl don't share.
If you guys don't have enough common ground it'll sour fast 👍

Reply 9

she admits she isnt smart? she probably is more intelligent than someone who thinks they are smarter than they actually are.

Reply 10

Original post
by Anonymous
I’ve been seeing this girl for a few times. We met online. I go to uni, she doesn’t , and didn’t go to sixth form. She’s my type physically, she’s really into me , we’ve had physical intimacy, but I feel somethings missing. I generally like a girl to be of similar intelligence to me so we can discuss things like the news, history , which is my degree. She admits she isn’t smart. We don’t have much in common in interests. Can it work? Because I’m holding myself back right now because with my ex we had a lot in common in that we did the same degree etc, could have those conversations, but I’m not seeing it with this girl .

You don't need a girl to play ches or solve rocket science problems. It is natural, if she attract you and opposite, just relax, that can be a great thing.
Not going to sixth form or uni doesn't mean someone isn't smart. There are many intelligent people who chose not to go into higher education, for whatever reason.

She "admits she isn't smart" - could that be because she's under the mistaken belief that people who don't go into higher education aren't smart?

Reply 12

You need more than just physical attraction to make a relationship work. It sounds like that's the only thing you have in common though.

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