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awlright
I reli don't understand this concept and i'm confused on how the examiner will give me marks. Could somebody please explain this concept please...

For example...
f(x) = 2 − x − x3.
Show that f(x) is decreasing for all values of x. (4 marks)

Show that there isn't a turning point. i.e. differentiate and equate to zero. There shouldn't be a limit. Then say something like the coefficients of the x terms are negative which shows it's decreasing.
Differentiate the equation, and you will find that the first derivative is always negative (with all values of x)

The first derivative gives you the gradient of the line, and if the gradient is negative for all values of x then the line is always decreasing
Reply 3
So i say f '(x) = 1 - 3x^2
At SP f'(x) = 0
Thus, well, i'm stuck now.......
awlright
So i say f '(x) = 1 - 3x^2
At SP f'(x) = 0
Thus, well, i'm stuck now.......


-1-3x^2

This is negative for all values of x
you need to prove f'(x) is always < 0
Reply 6
matt2k8
you need to prove f'(x) is always < 0



Uh?!

f''(x) should always be negative.. Why is everyone saying f'(x) should be negative!?

Edit: sorry i thought you were talking about maximum and minimum..
Reply 7
That's where i'm stuck, (sorry for differentiating wrong), even from there, how can you assume -1-3x^2<0 or -1-3x^2 is less than or equal to -1
Student#1
Uh?!

f''(x) should always be negative.. Why is everyone saying f'(x) should be negative!?

Edit: sorry i thought you were talking about maximum and minimum..


lol :smile:
Reply 9
Is this Edexcel or OCR? :unsure:
Reply 10
It's edexcel I think, unless the OCR sylabus changed since last year.
awlright
That's where i'm stuck, (sorry for differentiating wrong), even from there, how can you assume -1-3x^2<0 or -1-3x^2 is less than or equal to -1


You don't assume anything --> 3x^2 is always positive

Therefore -1-3x^2 is always negative (i.e. a negative number minus any positive number is always negative, and if 3x^2 is always positive then f'(x) is always negative)
Reply 12
awlright
That's where i'm stuck, (sorry for differentiating wrong), even from there, how can you assume -1-3x^2<0 or -1-3x^2 is less than or equal to -1

well -1 is negative and -3x^2 is negative... so -1-3x^2 is negative and hence less than zero
Khodu
Is this Edexcel or OCR? :unsure:


Its definitely edexcel but it could also be OCR
Reply 14
So how should i express the first derivative:

from -1-3x^2=f'(x) what do i say next, i don't understand the mark scheme answer:

f &#8242;(x) = &#8722;1 &#8722; 3x2
x2 &#8805; 0 for all real x &#8658; &#8722;1 &#8722; 3x2 &#8804; &#8722;1 (i especially don't understand how this bit has been done...)
&#8756; f &#8242;(x) < 0 &#8658; f(x) is decreasing for all values of x (4)
Reply 15
And the exam board is OCR
Reply 16
Adhavan
Its definitely edexcel but it could also be OCR


well then....not definitely edexcel is it??
awlright

x2 &#8805; 0 for all real x &#8658; &#8722;1 &#8722; 3x2 &#8804; &#8722;1 (i especially don't understand how this bit has been done...)


For all real values of x, x^2 is greater than or equal to 0

therefore, 3x^2 is always greater than or equal to 0

therefore -3x^2 is always less than or equal to 0

therefore -1-3x^2 is always less than or equal to -1

(i don't think this can be simplified/explained any more lol)
Benny_b
well then....not definitely edexcel is it??


what?

I said that this is definitely edexcel - because i did edexcel last year and this came up
awlright
x2 &#8805; 0 for all real x &#8658; &#8722;1 &#8722; 3x2 &#8804; &#8722;1 (i especially don't understand how this bit has been done...)

x^2 cannot be negative so 3x^2 cannot be negative, therefore -1-3x^2 cannot be less than -1 because -3x^2 cannot be positive.