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Mech Engineering: help please!

Hi all,

I've been a poster on this site for many years, providing advice on the legal careers and Law forums. It's now my turn to ask for advice!

My son is in Year 11, and on course for a strong set of GCSEs (9s and 8s across the board). At present, he's leaning towards aerospace engineering as he's been passionate about all things aviation, astronomy, design and tech for many years. If he maintains his academic progress, it doesn't seem unreasonable to expect As and A*s at A-Level. His grammar school prefers students to take 3 A-Levels plus an EPQ, not 4 A-Levels.

Key questions for us:

- He'll definitely chose Maths and Physics at A-Level. Third choice is between Chemistry and DT. My sense is that DT wouldn't be as well-regarded as Chemistry, but do I have that wrong?
- Is it best to do a broader engineering degree, or go straight for an aerospace/aeronautical engineering course?
- Which Uni's would people recommend given the above points?
- Is MEng the better route than BEng from a careers perspective?
- Should we be looking at courses that offer a placement year?
- What should he be doing now to strengthen his future Uni applications?

A lot of questions, I know! I'm cashing in all the credit I've gained from doling out legal careers advice over the last 15-odd years!
Cheers

Reply 1

Please take a look on the requirement of aerospace engineering, you can find the following:
Preferred subjects: Further Mathematics is recommended but not essential.

Reply 2

Original post
by chalks
Hi all,
I've been a poster on this site for many years, providing advice on the legal careers and Law forums. It's now my turn to ask for advice!
My son is in Year 11, and on course for a strong set of GCSEs (9s and 8s across the board). At present, he's leaning towards aerospace engineering as he's been passionate about all things aviation, astronomy, design and tech for many years. If he maintains his academic progress, it doesn't seem unreasonable to expect As and A*s at A-Level. His grammar school prefers students to take 3 A-Levels plus an EPQ, not 4 A-Levels.
Key questions for us:
- He'll definitely chose Maths and Physics at A-Level. Third choice is between Chemistry and DT. My sense is that DT wouldn't be as well-regarded as Chemistry, but do I have that wrong?
- Is it best to do a broader engineering degree, or go straight for an aerospace/aeronautical engineering course?
- Which Uni's would people recommend given the above points?
- Is MEng the better route than BEng from a careers perspective?
- Should we be looking at courses that offer a placement year?
- What should he be doing now to strengthen his future Uni applications?
A lot of questions, I know! I'm cashing in all the credit I've gained from doling out legal careers advice over the last 15-odd years!
Cheers

There's a lot of CAD in Engineering and little Chemistry [except in Chem Eng] so DT is fine. There are no subjects considered 'soft' now - that's outdated.

He would be wise to do a placement year and an MEng is only better if he needs to be chartered - many Engineers aren't.

So a bit more research into unis - might he want to go to a uni wanting FMaths? Do Aero Engineers need to be chartered?

Don't be fooled that he needs to look at RG unis - that's not relevant for Engineering [many of my students do that degree].

Happy to help further :smile:

Reply 3

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by Muttley79
There's a lot of CAD in Engineering and little Chemistry [except in Chem Eng] so DT is fine. There are no subjects considered 'soft' now - that's outdated.
He would be wise to do a placement year and an MEng is only better if he needs to be chartered - many Engineers aren't.
So a bit more research into unis - might he want to go to a uni wanting FMaths? Do Aero Engineers need to be chartered?
Don't be fooled that he needs to look at RG unis - that's not relevant for Engineering [many of my students do that degree].
Happy to help further :smile:

Thank you, much appreciated!

Funnily enough, he's come home this evening now thinking about doing Further Maths rather than either Chem or DT so it may be irrelevant!

Thanks for the thoughts on BEng vs MEng, and the importance of a placement year. Naturally, as a parent, I think of employability at the end of all of this but, probably more importantly, I want him to have an amazing time at Uni and the choice of city will be critical. My sense is that whilst the likes of Imperial are very highly regarded, he would have a better Uni experience outside of London.

I think I might have seen some of your posts on here about Oxbridge and engineering. What are your thoughts?

Thanks again.
Chalks.

Reply 4

Original post
by chalks
Thank you, much appreciated!
Funnily enough, he's come home this evening now thinking about doing Further Maths rather than either Chem or DT so it may be irrelevant!
Thanks for the thoughts on BEng vs MEng, and the importance of a placement year. Naturally, as a parent, I think of employability at the end of all of this but, probably more importantly, I want him to have an amazing time at Uni and the choice of city will be critical. My sense is that whilst the likes of Imperial are very highly regarded, he would have a better Uni experience outside of London.
I think I might have seen some of your posts on here about Oxbridge and engineering. What are your thoughts?
Thanks again.
Chalks.

I don't think London unis give the same experience as campus unis.

Personaly I don't advise people to go to Oxbridge for Engineeing - their degrees don't include a placement year and the content hasn't been updated but Engineering has moved on massively. For example, 3D printing was introduced in 2013 in some unis and EVs are in some degrees.

My top students do look elsewhere [but I'd never stop someone applying there if they wanted to] e.g Bath, Loughborough, Brookes [brand new facilities opened Jan 2025].

Reply 5

Original post
by chalks
Hi all,
I've been a poster on this site for many years, providing advice on the legal careers and Law forums. It's now my turn to ask for advice!
My son is in Year 11, and on course for a strong set of GCSEs (9s and 8s across the board). At present, he's leaning towards aerospace engineering as he's been passionate about all things aviation, astronomy, design and tech for many years. If he maintains his academic progress, it doesn't seem unreasonable to expect As and A*s at A-Level. His grammar school prefers students to take 3 A-Levels plus an EPQ, not 4 A-Levels.
Key questions for us:
- He'll definitely chose Maths and Physics at A-Level. Third choice is between Chemistry and DT. My sense is that DT wouldn't be as well-regarded as Chemistry, but do I have that wrong?
- Is it best to do a broader engineering degree, or go straight for an aerospace/aeronautical engineering course?
- Which Uni's would people recommend given the above points?
- Is MEng the better route than BEng from a careers perspective?
- Should we be looking at courses that offer a placement year?
- What should he be doing now to strengthen his future Uni applications?
A lot of questions, I know! I'm cashing in all the credit I've gained from doling out legal careers advice over the last 15-odd years!
Cheers
I wouldn’t do DT, pragmatically in some roles having an understanding of prototyping and machining is useful for an engineer but theoretical competence is more useful especially once you work past entry level roles, even test and dev engineers are largely working with technicians who are far more knowledgeable on hand when it comes to working with machining, although it is fun. Although i would recommend either further maths or computer science both as more relevant for aerospace engineering unless he is interested in materials aspects.

Yes an MEng is definitely worthwhile although you can typically upgrade from BEng to MEng at university.

Yes a placement year or multiple internships are definitely very worthwhile.

What should he be doing now? Just doing as well as possible on his A-levels this is by far the most important factor for keeping as many universities in play as possible. Although if he wants to do some reading of technical papers/articles this will be useful and interesting, perhaps a project learning MATLAB or Python scripting towards an “engineering problem” even something trivial like running SUVAT level mechanics (he should know what this is).

What unis? Well a lot of this is very personal, I would recommend looking at Rolls-Royce (aerospace) partner universities as the best place to build up a list of the most highly employable aerospace universities, they are by far the biggest aerospace player in the UK especially if he is interested in working at an OEM versus a supporting organization or supplier: https://www.rolls-royce.com/about/our-research/research-and-university.aspx

Reply 6

Original post
by mnot
I wouldn’t do DT, pragmatically in some roles having an understanding of prototyping and machining is useful for an engineer but theoretical competence is more useful especially once you work past entry level roles, even test and dev engineers are largely working with technicians who are far more knowledgeable on hand when it comes to working with machining, although it is fun. Although i would recommend either further maths or computer science both as more relevant for aerospace engineering unless he is interested in materials aspects.
Yes an MEng is definitely worthwhile although you can typically upgrade from BEng to MEng at university.
Yes a placement year or multiple internships are definitely very worthwhile.
What should he be doing now? Just doing as well as possible on his A-levels this is by far the most important factor for keeping as many universities in play as possible. Although if he wants to do some reading of technical papers/articles this will be useful and interesting, perhaps a project learning MATLAB or Python scripting towards an “engineering problem” even something trivial like running SUVAT level mechanics (he should know what this is).
What unis? Well a lot of this is very personal, I would recommend looking at Rolls-Royce (aerospace) partner universities as the best place to build up a list of the most highly employable aerospace universities, they are by far the biggest aerospace player in the UK especially if he is interested in working at an OEM versus a supporting organization or supplier: https://www.rolls-royce.com/about/our-research/research-and-university.aspx

DT or Product Design is fine and as a 4th A level it's proved VERY useful to those looking into future roles in Design Engineering. It also includes materials which is useful for Engineering.

Reply 7

Original post
by chalks
Hi all,
I've been a poster on this site for many years, providing advice on the legal careers and Law forums. It's now my turn to ask for advice!
My son is in Year 11, and on course for a strong set of GCSEs (9s and 8s across the board). At present, he's leaning towards aerospace engineering as he's been passionate about all things aviation, astronomy, design and tech for many years. If he maintains his academic progress, it doesn't seem unreasonable to expect As and A*s at A-Level. His grammar school prefers students to take 3 A-Levels plus an EPQ, not 4 A-Levels.
Key questions for us:
- He'll definitely chose Maths and Physics at A-Level. Third choice is between Chemistry and DT. My sense is that DT wouldn't be as well-regarded as Chemistry, but do I have that wrong?
- Is it best to do a broader engineering degree, or go straight for an aerospace/aeronautical engineering course?
- Which Uni's would people recommend given the above points?
- Is MEng the better route than BEng from a careers perspective?
- Should we be looking at courses that offer a placement year?
- What should he be doing now to strengthen his future Uni applications?
A lot of questions, I know! I'm cashing in all the credit I've gained from doling out legal careers advice over the last 15-odd years!
Cheers

Howdy

I recommend your son to have a look at CS for A level (if your school offers it), and also imperial is an extremely good Uni for MEng

Reply 8

Many thanks to all the input above: super helpful and much appreciated.

It's tricky, as it's completely different to the academic/career paths my wife and I took through corporate law. Plus, maths makes my head hurt, and physics makes my eyes bleed.

Reply 9

Original post
by chalks
Hi all,
I've been a poster on this site for many years, providing advice on the legal careers and Law forums. It's now my turn to ask for advice!
My son is in Year 11, and on course for a strong set of GCSEs (9s and 8s across the board). At present, he's leaning towards aerospace engineering as he's been passionate about all things aviation, astronomy, design and tech for many years. If he maintains his academic progress, it doesn't seem unreasonable to expect As and A*s at A-Level. His grammar school prefers students to take 3 A-Levels plus an EPQ, not 4 A-Levels.
Key questions for us:
- He'll definitely chose Maths and Physics at A-Level. Third choice is between Chemistry and DT. My sense is that DT wouldn't be as well-regarded as Chemistry, but do I have that wrong?
- Is it best to do a broader engineering degree, or go straight for an aerospace/aeronautical engineering course?
- Which Uni's would people recommend given the above points?
- Is MEng the better route than BEng from a careers perspective?
- Should we be looking at courses that offer a placement year?
- What should he be doing now to strengthen his future Uni applications?
A lot of questions, I know! I'm cashing in all the credit I've gained from doling out legal careers advice over the last 15-odd years!
Cheers
hii, in regards to whether he should take DT or chemistry, i would say take chemistry. it keeps so many more doors open, especially if DT is a BTEC not an Alevel. i would also say that while it is better to go for a broader engineering course, like mech eng, as you can specialise after. however there are universities that offer 1-2 common years across all disciplines, allowing students to decide their discipline later on. that being said, some universities that offer this include Durham, hull, Cambridge, Lancaster, and there are many more.
https://www.durham.ac.uk/study/courses/engineering-mechanical-h311/#course-details
https://www.hull.ac.uk/study/undergraduate/courses/mechanical-engineering-beng-meng?option=standard-course&start=2025&gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=21839260516&gbraid=0AAAAADNgr_DFuTiA4dg_zTEfK5LUIEtfu&gclid=Cj0KCQiAiqDJBhCXARIsABk2kSlKDTwlDXq9SUELT1zKRUchNWgssaKGvKEDBKW-sR46187-xcLsaikaAukFEALw_wcB
and yes, an MEng course is more highly regarded to employers, and offers a better foundation for a job, especially with an added placement year. the best things to do at the moment: things that interest him!! i did quite a few research projects, joined engineering-y clubs, and pursued other hobbies outside of engineering. hope this helps!!

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