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Low ESAT score - Do i still stand a chance

I didn’t do very well in the ESAT at all. With a score between 3-4, do i still stand a chance at getting an imperial interview, and an offer at ucl.

I’ve applied for EEE at UCL and EIE at Imperial, with 9999999999 and 4A*s, alongside a strong application in general. I have everything to a good standard except for my ESAT, which is majorly lacking compared to everything else.

I’ve heard stories of people getting interviews despite ESAT horror stories - is that a realistic aim for me still?

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Reply 1

Hey! Your ESAT score is low for Imperial, but strong grades and a solid application mean it’s not impossible they do sometimes interview lower scorers. UCL is more flexible, so you still have a decent chance there. Not guaranteed, but definitely not over yet!

Reply 2

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by Kuriknowsbest98
Hey! Your ESAT score is low for Imperial, but strong grades and a solid application mean it’s not impossible they do sometimes interview lower scorers. UCL is more flexible, so you still have a decent chance there. Not guaranteed, but definitely not over yet!

Okay thanks! I was unsure how much weight is actually put onto these entrance exams - but there have been lower scorers in the past that have got through, so hoping i’m one of them 🙏

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by called-retractio
Okay thanks! I was unsure how much weight is actually put onto these entrance exams - but there have been lower scorers in the past that have got through, so hoping i’m one of them 🙏
Same, I’m applying for icl design eng and Cambridge and I got an average of 3-4. Just work on interview practice for the moment and pray to get one.

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by adesignengineer
Same, I’m applying for icl design eng and Cambridge and I got an average of 3-4. Just work on interview practice for the moment and pray to get one.

yeah i think it’s best to just double down and prepare hard for interviews. It’s a risk that we won’t get any but if we do then we have to outperform the rest to even stand a chance

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by called-retractio
I didn’t do very well in the ESAT at all. With a score between 3-4, do i still stand a chance at getting an imperial interview, and an offer at ucl.
I’ve applied for EEE at UCL and EIE at Imperial, with 9999999999 and 4A*s, alongside a strong application in general. I have everything to a good standard except for my ESAT, which is majorly lacking compared to everything else.
I’ve heard stories of people getting interviews despite ESAT horror stories - is that a realistic aim for me still?

Personally I think admissions test should be scrapped, because it is unfair to poorer students who can't afford external tuition to boost their knowledge to be judged on a low score and be ruled out for interviews at these elite universities.

These tests do not level the playing field but rather narrows it further and advantages the wealthy students. Fed up of all the whole game. 🙄 I ve seen it over the years.

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by called-retractio
yeah i think it’s best to just double down and prepare hard for interviews. It’s a risk that we won’t get any but if we do then we have to outperform the rest to even stand a chance

Sure, u got this mate

Reply 7

My daughter has a contextual (fsm) so maybe this is also factored into the sifting.

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by Got the tshirt
My daughter has a contextual (fsm) so maybe this is also factored into the sifting.

My child applied to Cambridge a year or so back and scored a slightly lower admissions test score, but the rich boy in his class got near enough the same score. They were both invited to interview and not surprisingly my son was rejected, but the rich boy got in. The rich boy bragged about using Crimson education (which is expensive) to help him secure his place at Cambridge something we couldn't afford.

I'm so sad for the kids on here who score low that they instantly believe they are being rejected, and its sad because they most likely will. I'm so put off by the system I would never apply there even as a mature student.

Reply 9

It is difficult. My daughter got just over 5 average so we'll see. My eldest two daughters went to Cambridge about 14/15 years ago..I have no idea how well the middle one did in her entrance test as she sat it right before her interview (engineering). The eldest did the BMat and she did quite well in it. There was a lot of help for poorer students then.

Reply 10

i definitely understand where you’re coming from. I have no excuse though as someone who had all the resources available to them that other wouldn’t have. Surely there’s some contextual considerations to these entrance exams? it would totally be unfair if there weren’t.

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by called-retractio
i definitely understand where you’re coming from. I have no excuse though as someone who had all the resources available to them that other wouldn’t have. Surely there’s some contextual considerations to these entrance exams? it would totally be unfair if there weren’t.

Sadly there isn't. Private tutors know all the dirty tricks of these exams and will teach it to students who can afford to pay them because they Oxbridge graduates.

Tutors charge up £60-100 per hour for tuition and past papers don't count as the questions are different from A level so its wise to have a tutor.

Reply 12

ahhh i see. Slightly bummed that i didn’t think to get a tutor considering the joke of a score i got😭. I guess there are a lot of pathways now for less fortunate students, but it’s interesting that for arguably the single most important part of an application (entrance exams), they haven’t found a way of levelling out the playing field for everybody to have a fair shot.

Reply 13

hey, i got also got an esat score of 3-4ish and just received an interview invite from imperial for eee. i think it'll be fine :smile:

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by anqiiweng
hey, i got also got an esat score of 3-4ish and just received an interview invite from imperial for eee. i think it'll be fine :smile:


Hey - that’s so reassuring for me, especially considering the fact you’ve applied for a more competitive course than me! If you don’t mind sharing, what are your stats? (gcses alevels etc)

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by called-retractio
Hey - that’s so reassuring for me, especially considering the fact you’ve applied for a more competitive course than me! If you don’t mind sharing, what are your stats? (gcses alevels etc)


similar to yours, predicted 4A* and got 11 9s and 2 8s at gcse (tho i doubt they look at gcses much), i think my ps was alright ngl i can't tell 😭 but yeah considering not many people get rejected from eie i think you don't have much to worry about hopefully

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by anqiiweng
similar to yours, predicted 4A* and got 11 9s and 2 8s at gcse (tho i doubt they look at gcses much), i think my ps was alright ngl i can't tell 😭 but yeah considering not many people get rejected from eie i think you don't have much to worry about hopefully


ahh okay thanks. I was originally thinking i wouldn’t get an interview but i’m becoming much more hopeful ab it all now. I’ll just assume that the interview carries more weight for us than others, and also if we do get offers, they may be higher as we need to ‘prove ourselves’

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by called-retractio
ahh okay thanks. I was originally thinking i wouldn’t get an interview but i’m becoming much more hopeful ab it all now. I’ll just assume that the interview carries more weight for us than others, and also if we do get offers, they may be higher as we need to ‘prove ourselves’

Many years ago my middle daughter applied to Pembroke for engineering and at that time the test (TSA) was taken just before the interview. I don't think she was ever told what she got. After the first interview she was in tears and I think she thought she had nothing to lose in the 2nd interview. Anyway she was predicted A*A*A (physics, dt and further maths) having already A* in Maths and 5 AS levels at A grade. She was given an offer of A*A* in physics and further maths- she was predicted an A and they didn't want anything for dt.

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by Got the tshirt
Many years ago my middle daughter applied to Pembroke for engineering and at that time the test (TSA) was taken just before the interview. I don't think she was ever told what she got. After the first interview she was in tears and I think she thought she had nothing to lose in the 2nd interview. Anyway she was predicted A*A*A (physics, dt and further maths) having already A* in Maths and 5 AS levels at A grade. She was given an offer of A*A* in physics and further maths- she was predicted an A and they didn't want anything for dt.


ahhh ok interesting. I guess interviews are the type of thing where you can’t really tell how well you actually did. It’s also based on the tutors preference so they may have just liked her? I’m not sure tbh - just hoping i rub off on my interviewers in the right way 🤞

Reply 19

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by called-retractio
ahhh ok interesting. I guess interviews are the type of thing where you can’t really tell how well you actually did. It’s also based on the tutors preference so they may have just liked her? I’m not sure tbh - just hoping i rub off on my interviewers in the right way 🤞

She thought they didn't like her so that's why she was given a 3 A*offer (in 2011) when A*AA was the norm and she was only predicted an A in Further Maths! She did get the 3 A*s.

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