Advice, Friend paying someone to do law assessment

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My friend recently confessed to be that she has been paying someone to do her law assessments for her since first year and second year. she is now on her way into third year. she had got them to do some of the assessments and she had maybe completed around 4 assessments herself, she came to be asking if whether she should drop out as she has come tor ealize that she is has barely learnt anything while at her time at university she is considering after her degree depending on the results she gets if she stays to do a master degree in another subject than law maybe in politics I think she said, however she thinks she might struggle she is going to try and do the assesment this year in third year herself however thinks she might struggle. she has been talking about dropping out for a long time but I guess she just hit her now that even though she has been paying for a degree to not learn nothing at the end of it as a result. Overall she asked for my advice however I am not sure what advice to give her as a result. She currently is sitting on a 2:1 from her second year grades, so she did good. But either she does the assessment herself or, even though she is very behind on all the work or she is going to allow the people she uses to do her law assessment to do the work for her as a result, however she isn't 100% sure if they will give her a grade 2:1 as a result.

Reply 1

Zarek

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Aren’t lawyers meant to obey the law. Tell her to mend her ways and get cracking on doing the assignments herself. Can this really work anyway, aren’t there exams, tutorials, viva etc to corroborate course work. Mind you, she could be ideal as a politician with these duplicitous ways

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chole yasmine

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by Zarek

Aren’t lawyers meant to obey the law. Tell her to mend her ways and get cracking on doing the assignments herself. Can this really work anyway, aren’t there exams, tutorials, viva etc to corroborate course work. Mind you, she could be ideal as a politician with these duplicitous ways

its mainly coursework that's why, also she either thinking of business or international relations but what advice would you give because she is on week 1 and has 7 weeks to catch up on per module but all are coursework let me know. she is also thinking of dropping out and changing course as she thinks its not right what she is doing

Reply 3

Zarek

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by chole yasmine

its mainly coursework that's why, also she either thinking of business or international relations but what advice would you give because she is on week 1 and has 7 weeks to catch up on per module but all are coursework let me know. she is also thinking of dropping out and changing course as she thinks its not right what she is doing

It’s difficult to give advice, because what she’s been up to is totally dishonest and would likely disqualify her for a career in law if it came to light. If money is no object perhaps starting afresh with something that motivates her is the answer. Just tell her she’s a morality free zone but she has your support whatever she chooses to do

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chole yasmine

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by Zarek

It’s difficult to give advice, because what she’s been up to is totally dishonest and would likely disqualify her for a career in law if it came to light. If money is no object perhaps starting afresh with something that motivates her is the answer. Just tell her she’s a morality free zone but she has your support whatever she chooses to do

well she didn't pay for her course she was on a tuition fee , she working a part time job so she using that . the main question she asked if her not learning anything will effect when it comes to the real world where she will need skills for graduate roles

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Zarek

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by chole yasmine

well she didn't pay for her course she was on a tuition fee , she working a part time job so she using that . the main question she asked if her not learning anything will effect when it comes to the real world where she will need skills for graduate roles

I would say that not having any legal knowledge would put you at a disadvantage as a lawyer. But who knows, she might be able to continue to blag it

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Crazy Jamie

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by chole yasmine

well she didn't pay for her course she was on a tuition fee , she working a part time job so she using that . the main question she asked if her not learning anything will effect when it comes to the real world where she will need skills for graduate roles

Actually, whilst I understand why @Zarek would say what he has, for the purposes of a legal career the knowledge that you retain from a law degree is of relatively little consequence. In the real world, she may gain some knowledge from postgraduate studies (possibly a Masters, but otherwise the LPC or Bar course), but will develop most of what she needs to know while she is actually working in the legal industry, whether that's as a paralegal or similar or during a training contract or pupillage. So from that perspective she has nothing to worry about.

From the dishonesty perspective, though, she has a lot to worry about. Zarek is absolutely right that she has made some very poor choices as a prospective lawyer. Whilst the regulatory bodies for solicitors and barristers will let lawyers get away with a fair amount in the round, dishonesty is one thing that is given short shrift. If it comes out that she's been paying someone to do her assignments for her and has passed those off as her own work, it is highly likely to ruin any legal career she might aspire to. Those actions could have significant consequences.

Whilst I appreciate you're feeling a burden here to give the correct advice, that really isn't your responsibility. She is in a difficult position, but that is entirely her fault and there can be no suggestion that she didn't realise how potentially serious her actions could be, both for her own personal development and for her career prospects. It is on her to decide where to go with this next. It's not on you at all.

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Mohammed_2000

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Speak up the truth and go to your exam board or your head of your module and tell the truth because if your friend been doing that, that’s just being a cheat. Your grades are to be earned as a result of hard-work why is she even enrolled within the course then in the first place if she knew she was going to do this. They need to disqualify her of the course or to some extent remove her off it.

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Mohammed_2000

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by chole yasmine

its mainly coursework that's why, also she either thinking of business or international relations but what advice would you give because she is on week 1 and has 7 weeks to catch up on per module but all are coursework let me know. she is also thinking of dropping out and changing course as she thinks its not right what she is doing

Why is she realising 3 years late?

Reply 9

Anonymous #1

I’ll be honest, the person who’s going to suffer the most in this situation is going to be her.

After you do your degree, you will get training on the job and probably in specific job you applied for so knowledge can be refreshed/ learnt from beginning but you need a base at least. It’s not just fact or clauses in law you are learning, you are learning the skills needed, like critical thinking, analysis, research, managing time, etc. That takes time and practice, to approach a scenario from a analytical and creative thought process.

But if she has no motivation to *learn* I will emphasise LEARN, then either she gets it together and wakes up one day wanting to LEARN or she will forever stay stuck with this mindset that is honestly sad and depressing. She has no passion for life. She may succeed through it but at what cost. It might work out for her but seriously it’s like selling your soul kind of thing.

Advice her as a friend to find what lights her up, yes 2 years of tuition fee is wasted but does she really want to waste the rest of her life too? If politics interests her then tell her to actually wake up to her situation and do her work because she has one year to make it up. How does she even feel okay with brain rotting and not exercising her intellect on this opportunity ? It’s. It even about morality here which is subjective to each person. It’s about the harm she’s causing to herself.

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