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can I study medicine at Oxford with 2 sciences?

Hi my name is Julia I am a year 12 doing my a levels at a top school. however, my school has been sending me very mixed massages lately.

I am currently studying an EPQ chemistry physics biology and English litrature at a level and I wish to do med at Oxford University. However, in recent mock exams I only got a d in my physics and did a mock recently which I haven't got the grade for yet but I whole heartedly believe I have gotten an E. Or at the very least have not improved at all.

I have gotten privet tuition for the subject but have not made much improvement. To be honest I have not really been putting in much effort. I have had a big shock starting my a levels that reading the text book doesn't get you the top grades anymore. Moreover, I came from a school which gave me a lot of extra help with my learning, I have dyslexia dyscalculia autisim and Adhd so its safe to say i have a lot of learning challanges. I am aware there is a lot of stigma about special educational needs so please dont judge. however i did manage dispite this to achive 7 9's an 8 and a 7 my gcses.

In my new school however, i have been feeling frustrated with the lack of care my teachers are putting into things. In other subjects i was given intervention but in physics they do not care at all, this frustration i think is what is leading to my sudden lack of motivation. As ridiculous as it sounds, i was known in secondary as being the smart person, and i think like a lot of accademic people it becomes a big part of your identity. i feel like the only thjng that makes me stand out now is the fact that I have a lot of learning disabilities which is not exacly what I want to be known for.

I think if I start putting in the effort I could achieve better results in physics, however my school is putting pressure on my to drop it.

I have heard a lot of diffrent information, some people say you need to do 4 a levels for oxford some say only 3 and some say you can do biology chem and the 3 d 1 can be whatever you want but I don't know.

I know on their website they say u only need 2 sciences but what actually gets you in my be diffrent as I know it is a very competitive university

I am naturally good at English litrature and that is my 4 th subject. I don't want to drop this as its an easy a or potentially a star for me. I got 100 present in it in paper 1 on my gcse exam and 98 overall / I don't say that to brag but rather for you to understand i am much better than this than I am at physics.

dropping physics would give me so much more time and less stress but I am worried that I will not get my place at my dream university.

dropping English would be a big waste in my opinion

and taking 4 would be very stressful but may lead to the best chance, moreover if I did get a crap grade in physics I could still apply to other med schools provided I got AAA at least whilst if I did crap in physics but had no English to fall back on I would not be able to go to any medical school.

I hope you can understand my dilema and I would love some suggestions on what I should do!

Ps sorry for my spelling!

Reply 1

Original post
by Juliajuliejules
Hi my name is Julia I am a year 12 doing my a levels at a top school. however, my school has been sending me very mixed massages lately.

I am currently studying an EPQ chemistry physics biology and English litrature at a level and I wish to do med at Oxford University. However, in recent mock exams I only got a d in my physics and did a mock recently which I haven't got the grade for yet but I whole heartedly believe I have gotten an E. Or at the very least have not improved at all.

I have gotten privet tuition for the subject but have not made much improvement. To be honest I have not really been putting in much effort. I have had a big shock starting my a levels that reading the text book doesn't get you the top grades anymore. Moreover, I came from a school which gave me a lot of extra help with my learning, I have dyslexia dyscalculia autisim and Adhd so its safe to say i have a lot of learning challanges. I am aware there is a lot of stigma about special educational needs so please dont judge. however i did manage dispite this to achive 7 9's an 8 and a 7 my gcses.

In my new school however, i have been feeling frustrated with the lack of care my teachers are putting into things. In other subjects i was givent intervention but in physics they do not care at all, this frustration i think is what is leading to my sudden lack of motivation. As ridiculous as it sounds, i was known in secondary as being the smart person, and i think like a lot of accademic people it become a big part of your identity. i feel like the only thjng that makes me stand out now is the fact that I have a lot of learning disabilities which is not exacly what I want to be known for.

I think if I start putting in the effort I could achieve better results in physics, however my school is putting pressure on my to drop it.

I have heard a lot of diffrent information, some people say you need to do 4 a levels for oxford some say only 3 and some say you can do biology chem and the 3 d 1 can be whatever you want but I don't know.

I know on their website they say u only need 2 sciences but what actually gets you in my be diffrent as I know it is a very competitive university

I am naturally good at English litrature and that is my 4 th subject. I don't want to drop this as its an easy a or potentially a star for me. I got 100 present in it in paper 1 on my gcse exam and 98 overall / I don't say that to brag but rather for you to understand i am much better than this than I am at physics.

dropping physics would give me so much more time and less stress but I am worried that I will not get my place at my dream university.

dropping English would be a big waste in my opinion

and taking 4 would be very stressful but may lead to the best chance, moreover if I did get a crap grade in physics I could still apply to other med schools provided I got AAA at least whilst if I did crap in physics but had no English to fall back on I would not be able to go to any medical school.

I hope you can understand my dilema and I would love some suggestions on what I should do!

Ps sorry for my spelling!

You do not need 4 A-levels to study at Oxford or at most universities for most courses in general, anyone telling or hinting otherwise (even teachers and careers advisors) is lying through their teeth and hasn’t bothered to check this. I’ve only maybe seen 4 A-levels maybe matter if it’s the norm in your school for everyone to be sitting 4 A-levels in your school and the university you’re applying to factors that into their decision making process.

You don’t need 3 sciences (that would be Cambridge I think that wants 3):
https://www.ox.ac.uk/admissions/undergraduate/courses/course-listing/medicine

A-levels:

A*AA in three A-levels (excluding Critical Thinking and Thinking Skills) taken in the same academic year. Candidates are required to achieve at least a grade A in both Chemistry and at least one of Biology, Physics, Mathematics or Further Mathematics. We expect you to have taken and passed any practical component in your chosen science subjects.

Subject requirements
Required subjects: Chemistry with either Maths, Further Maths, Biology or Physics.
Recommended subjects: Not applicable
Helpful subjects: Not applicable

Do you think that you can get a better grade in Physics on English? I’d strongly recommend dropping both the EPQ (won’t help you in most cases) and an A-level. Bare bare minimum. Drop an A-level. 4 A-levels an EPQ in your case is too much especially if you’re not doing FM and you’re in England under the linear exams system.

Also for medicine in the UK, it doesn’t matter what UK school your graduate from.

Reply 2

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by Talkative Toad
You do not need 4 A-levels to study at Oxford or at most universities for most courses in general, anyone telling or hinting otherwise (even teachers and careers advisors) is lying through their teeth and hasn’t bothered to check this. I’ve only maybe seen 4 A-levels maybe matter if it’s the norm in your school for everyone to be sitting 4 A-levels in your school and the university you’re applying to factors that into their decision making process.
You don’t need 3 sciences (that would be Cambridge I think that wants 3):
https://www.ox.ac.uk/admissions/undergraduate/courses/course-listing/medicine
A-levels:
A*AA in three A-levels (excluding Critical Thinking and Thinking Skills) taken in the same academic year. Candidates are required to achieve at least a grade A in both Chemistry and at least one of Biology, Physics, Mathematics or Further Mathematics. We expect you to have taken and passed any practical component in your chosen science subjects.
Subject requirements
Required subjects: Chemistry with either Maths, Further Maths, Biology or Physics.
Recommended subjects: Not applicable
Helpful subjects: Not applicable

Thank you! but could I really stand a chance? I mean, most applicants so biology chem and maths! And I believe that physics is objectively harder than English, so wouldn't it be more respected? Or does it not matter? Really appreciate the reply!

Reply 3

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by Juliajuliejules
Thank you! but could I really stand a chance? I mean, most applicants so biology chem and maths! And I believe that physics is objectively harder than English, so wouldn't it be more respected? Or does it not matter? Really appreciate the reply!

It doesn’t matter what your third subject is. There’s no objectively harder subject when we’re looking at something such as physics vs English. For most universities and courses, the idea of “respected” vs “non-respected” subjects has been ditched and even for the universities that have such list, English is on the respected/preferred subjects list.

I’ve added more stuff to my other post (in bold):

Original post
by Talkative Toad
You do not need 4 A-levels to study at Oxford or at most universities for most courses in general, anyone telling or hinting otherwise (even teachers and careers advisors) is lying through their teeth and hasn’t bothered to check this. I’ve only maybe seen 4 A-levels maybe matter if it’s the norm in your school for everyone to be sitting 4 A-levels in your school and the university you’re applying to factors that into their decision making process.

You don’t need 3 sciences (that would be Cambridge I think that wants 3):
https://www.ox.ac.uk/admissions/undergraduate/courses/course-listing/medicine

A-levels:

A*AA in three A-levels (excluding Critical Thinking and Thinking Skills) taken in the same academic year. Candidates are required to achieve at least a grade A in both Chemistry and at least one of Biology, Physics, Mathematics or Further Mathematics. We expect you to have taken and passed any practical component in your chosen science subjects.

Subject requirements
Required subjects: Chemistry with either Maths, Further Maths, Biology or Physics.
Recommended subjects: Not applicable
Helpful subjects: Not applicable

Do you think that you can get a better grade in Physics on English? I’d strongly recommend dropping both the EPQ (won’t help you in most cases) and an A-level. Bare bare minimum. Drop an A-level. 4 A-levels an EPQ in your case is too much especially if you’re not doing FM and you’re in England under the linear exams system.

Also for medicine in the UK, it doesn’t matter what UK school your graduate from.
(edited 1 month ago)

Reply 4

Original post
by Juliajuliejules
Thank you! but could I really stand a chance? I mean, most applicants so biology chem and maths! And I believe that physics is objectively harder than English, so wouldn't it be more respected? Or does it not matter? Really appreciate the reply!


Have you spoken to your SENCO about your issues? Is there any reason why you didn’t remain at your old school?

Reply 5

Original post
by Talkative Toad
It doesn’t matter what your third subject is. There’s no objectively harder subject when we’re looking at something such as physics vs English. For most universities and courses, the idea of “respected” vs “non-respected” subjects has been ditched and even for the universities that have such list, English is on the respected/preferred subjects list.
I’ve added more stuff to my other post (in bold):

Thank you! In that case I will talk to my school about dropping the physics as I do not think it is worth it!

Reply 6

Original post
by Juliajuliejules
Thank you! but could I really stand a chance? I mean, most applicants so biology chem and maths! And I believe that physics is objectively harder than English, so wouldn't it be more respected? Or does it not matter? Really appreciate the reply!

Look objectively at Oxford's entry requirements. Are they misleading or even lying to applicants?

Reply 7

Original post
by Juliajuliejules
Thank you! In that case I will talk to my school about dropping the physics as I do not think it is worth it!

Yeah drop that subject if that’s your least favourite/weakest one. It might also be worth dropping the EPQ that way you can really focus on smashing English Literature; Biology and Chemistry.

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