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Trump starts a war

Not sure if illegally attacking a sovereign state will help in his quest for a Nobel Peace Prize.
Still, all that oil, eh?

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Reply 1

The President of Peace is living up to his reputation while his supporters cheer on the violence from the comfort of their own homes.

Reply 2

Not so much Trump starts a war, more like the United States (no doubt with the tacit approval of many of its allies) engages in yet another act of regime change.

This is breaking news, and details are as yet scant, but at first sight what is happening appears to be very similar to the US invasion of Panama in 1989. It will be interesting to see how world leaders respond, particularly those US allies who have spent the last four years complaining about Russia's invasion of Ukraine.

Reply 3

Maduro doesn't have to worry though. As an (alleged) narco-terrorist-cartel-stooge type, Trump will just pardon him.

Reply 4

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by 2WheelGod
Not sure if illegally attacking a sovereign state will help in his quest for a Nobel Peace Prize.
Still, all that oil, eh?

It is unacceptable for President Trump to trigger regime change in a nation without adequate authorisation from Congress and the US being at war with that country.

It also shows that the Russia/China alliance is nothing but hot air. Their allies are falling like lillies.

This could be Trump’s Iraq and the Americans may regret it.

Reply 5

Over the weekend, I followed the news about US aggression in Venezuela. I am beginning to understand why Starmer bends the knee to President Trump due to the pure American power.

Britain cannot (unfortunately) go into a country and rip out their leader. We need to invest in our military and return back to our peak in the international order.

China, Russia, North Korea, Iran, South Africa and other countries are prob bricking it now. The EU must bend the knee.

Reply 6

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by Wired_1800
Over the weekend, I followed the news about US aggression in Venezuela. I am beginning to understand why Starmer bends the knee to President Trump due to the pure American power.
Britain cannot (unfortunately) go into a country and rip out their leader. We need to invest in our military and return back to our peak in the international order.
China, Russia, North Korea, Iran, South Africa and other countries are prob bricking it now. The EU must bend the knee.

Countries like China and Russia will see this as a further green light from Trump for their own expansionist plans.
Taiwan will be bricking it.

Maybe the EU could annexe the UK.

Reply 7

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by 2WheelGod
Countries like China and Russia will see this as a further green light from Trump for their own expansionist plans.
Taiwan will be bricking it.
Maybe the EU could annexe the UK.

Russia has no expansionist plans. I do not know about China.

Any aggression from the European Union towards the UK must receive the harshest response since WWII. Our young men and women should be ready to face the EU on the battlefield.

Reply 8

It is important to place these unfolding events in context. The United States has a long history of intervening in the affairs of other countries when it deems it to be in its own best interests, but expects all other countries to comply with international law. This applies particularly, but not exclusively, to the American continent.

This operation most closely resembles the 1989 invasion of Panama and forced surrender of its leader, by the first Bush administration. That was followed by the younger George Bush with the invasion of Iraq on false grounds, and his administration’s broad use of rendition and torture. Barack Obama failed to hold his predecessor’s administration to account and pursued his own legally questionable drone assassination campaign against suspected terrorists.

These were acts of hypocrisy by earlier presidents, who claimed exceptions from international laws in the pursuit of US interests, but mostly embraced global norms in the knowledge that the “rules-based system” overwhelmingly favoured America.

Such selective disregard for the rule of law is not, of course, limited to the United States but it presents America's NATO allies with an enormous headache. In days gone by it could be swept under the carpet but not in the era of continuous in-depth global news coverage and unrestrained social media commentary. It will be fascinating to see how each NATO and EU country handles the diplomatic fallout. Already, there are reports that the UK will not condemn the forced removal of Mr Maduro at the United Nations. So much for the supposed unity of the Western Alliance!
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Reply 9

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by Supermature
It is important to place these unfolding events in context. The United States has a long history of intervening in the affairs of other countries when it deems it to be in its own best interests, but expects all other countries to comply with international law. This applies particularly, but not exclusively, to the American continent.
This operation most closely resembles the 1989 invasion of Panama and forced surrender of its leader, by the first Bush administration. That was followed by the younger George Bush with the invasion of Iraq on false grounds, and his administration’s broad use of rendition and torture. Barack Obama failed to hold his predecessor’s administration to account and pursued his own legally questionable drone assassination campaign against suspected terrorists.
These were acts of hypocrisy by earlier presidents, who claimed exceptions from international laws in the pursuit of US interests, but mostly embraced global norms in the knowledge that the “rules-based system” overwhelmingly favoured America.
Such selective disregard for the rule of law is not, of course, limited to the United States but it presents America's NATO allies with an enormous headache. In days gone by it could be swept under the carpet but not in the era of continuous in-depth global news coverage and unrestrained social media commentary. It will be fascinating to see how each NATO and EU country handles the diplomatic fallout. Already, there are reports that the UK will not condemn the forced removal of Mr Maduro at the United Nations. So much the supposed unity of the Western Alliance!

The events over the past few days show that President Putin has the right to bring Zelensky to Russia to face charges on Ukraine’s treatment of ethnic Russians and allegations of anti-semitism by the Azov Battalion.

Frankly, I would support President Putin doing what’s necessary to ensure that Zelensky does not run away from his alleged crimes.

Reply 10

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by Wired_1800
Russia has no expansionist plans. I do not know about China.
Any aggression from the European Union towards the UK must receive the harshest response since WWII. Our young men and women should be ready to face the EU on the battlefield.

"Russia has no expansionist plans. I do not know about China."
🤣
Not a fan of current affairs then?

Reply 11

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by Wired_1800
The events over the past few days show that President Putin has the right to bring Zelensky to Russia to face charges on Ukraine’s treatment of ethnic Russians and allegations of anti-semitism by the Azov Battalion.
Frankly, I would support President Putin doing what’s necessary to ensure that Zelensky does not run away from his alleged crimes.

These events have thrown a spotlight on how power is wielded in the real world and have left every major player in international affairs feeling deeply uncomfortable.

First, the idea that the United States upholds the "rule based order", under this or any other administration, has been (once again) shown to be utterly delusional. That rule based order is for everyone else - but not for the US.

Secondly, although Russia and China will publicly berate the Americans for what they have done, they will secretly admire them and feel emboldened to act in a similar way. At the same time, Russia will need to be very careful not to upset Mr Trump and squander the natural sympathy that he has for its territorial ambitions in Ukraine.

But it is the other members of the Western Alliance, particularly those in NATO and the EU, that are left with the biggest headache. Their most powerful ally, upon which they depend for their very existence, has just blown the gaff on the idea that sovereignty should be respected at all costs. That will leave their entire Ukraine strategy looking very shaky. Already, we can see the splits beginning to appear between those Western politicians who put their dependency on US patronage above their supposed principles and those who prioritise paying lip service to the myth of the "rule based order".

Reply 12

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by 2WheelGod
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I am not a Russian puppet. I was simply commenting on the new world order under President Trump.

Reply 13

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by 2WheelGod
"Russia has no expansionist plans. I do not know about China."
🤣
Not a fan of current affairs then?

Russia is involved in a special military operation to free Ukrainians from the horrible events that happened under Zelensky and other leaders

Reply 14

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by Supermature
These events have thrown a spotlight on how power is wielded in the real world and have left every major player in international affairs feeling deeply uncomfortable.
First, the idea that the United States upholds the "rule based order", under this or any other administration, has been (once again) shown to be utterly delusional. That rule based order is for everyone else - but not for the US.
Secondly, although Russia and China will publicly berate the Americans for what they have done, they will secretly admire them and feel emboldened to act in a similar way. At the same time, Russia will need to be very careful not to upset Mr Trump and squander the natural sympathy that he has for its territorial ambitions in Ukraine.
But it is the other members of the Western Alliance, particularly those in NATO and the EU, that are left with the biggest headache. Their most powerful ally, upon which they depend for their very existence, has just blown the gaff on the idea that sovereignty should be respected at all costs. That will leave their entire Ukraine strategy looking very shaky. Already, we can see the splits beginning to appear between those Western politicians who put their dependency on US patronage above their supposed principles and those who prioritise paying lip service to the myth of the "rule based order".

Trump has exposed a lot of uncomfortable truths that have been shielded from the masses for decades. The rules-based order has often been for the weaker countries. The EU and NATO have been complicit in historical regime changes but tried to twist the Ukrainian situation to fit their narrative.

Now, Trump has them in a checkmate situation and they have to accept that humans operate few evolutionary levels removed from lower animals with survival of the fittest governing our world.

I am particularly interested in Trump’s next move. Some have suggested Greenland, others have mentioned Cuba or Colombia. I wonder whether Chairman Xi would make a play for Taiwan before Trump takes another chip off the board. Xi may wait for Trump before showing his cards.

Reply 15

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by Wired_1800
I am not a Russian puppet. I was simply commenting on the new world order under President Trump.

Well, that is your FB profile pic.

Reply 16

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by Wired_1800
Trump has exposed a lot of uncomfortable truths that have been shielded from the masses for decades. The rules-based order has often been for the weaker countries. The EU and NATO have been complicit in historical regime changes but tried to twist the Ukrainian situation to fit their narrative.
Now, Trump has them in a checkmate situation and they have to accept that humans operate few evolutionary levels removed from lower animals with survival of the fittest governing our world.
I am particularly interested in Trump’s next move. Some have suggested Greenland, others have mentioned Cuba or Colombia. I wonder whether Chairman Xi would make a play for Taiwan before Trump takes another chip off the board. Xi may wait for Trump before showing his cards.

How has that been "shielded from the masses for decades"? Everyone but the most insular or incapable knows that the rules rarely apply to the rich and powerful.

"survival of the fittest"
Yeah, a lot of people don't understand what that means. It's due to Darwin's somewhat outdated terminology.
It doesn't mean "fit" as in "strong, powerful". It means "best fitted for its environment".

"I wonder whether Chairman Xi would make a play for Taiwan"
😂
You thought China was "bricking it" before I pointed out that it more likely emboldens their expansionist plans toward Taiwan. But at least you are starting to show signs that you are actually paying attention now.

Reply 17

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by 2WheelGod
Definitely
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or a complete troll.
Either way, not a good look.

What’s the difference between the US approach and Russia’s? Well, Russia’s is for survival.

Reply 18

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by 2WheelGod
How has that been "shielded from the masses for decades"? Everyone but the most insular or incapable knows that the rules rarely apply to the rich and powerful.
"survival of the fittest"
Yeah, a lot of people don't understand what that means. It's due to Darwin's somewhat outdated terminology.
It doesn't mean "fit" as in "strong, powerful". It means "best fitted for its environment".
"I wonder whether Chairman Xi would make a play for Taiwan"
😂
You thought China was "bricking it" before I pointed out that it more likely emboldens their expansionist plans toward Taiwan. But at least you are starting to show signs that you are actually paying attention now.

Many people are insular and have been shielded from the truth. You need to go through social media and discuss with people to understand the level of their ignorance. For example, I recall discussing the level of corruption in Ukraine but the person was too dim to accept it. Years later, it came out in the papers that corruption has been rife.

My position on China is mixed. I think they would be bricking it and wont dare to challenge American military might but may follow suit with a play for Taiwan when it is clear that Trump is weak e.g. towards the end of his tenure.

Reply 19

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by Wired_1800
What’s the difference between the US approach and Russia’s? Well, Russia’s is for survival.

Both are only interested in increasing power, resources and influence. No real difference.

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