So much for the 2nd amendment

Very interesting when someone opens a new thread with a post mentioning 'masked death squads'. They are no such thing. What in the world are you going on about.

A lot of security and law enforcement services worldwide wear masks.
Can you outline how many people have been executed by ICE officials last year if you're certain their primary function is to round up and eliminate average citizens in the USA?

I never said their primary function is to round up and elimintate average citizens in the USA. If that's you're opinion, fine, but don't quote words that never came out of my mouth, buddy.

I'm confused. Are you saying they are a masked death squad or not? Both you and the poster you mention seem to suggest that is the case?
I fear you are all looking at this through non-American eyes. In the USA, it is not unusual for police, law enforcement and security agencies to dress with a lot of military-esque equipment, including helmets, ballistic vests and a whole plethora of stuff, including masks. This is considered completely normal in that country though it would be a very rare thing to see in much of Europe. I think this might be the source of confusion here.

The video and commentary on the BBC page you linked clearly show that the ICE thug was not acting in "self defence", and shot the woman while he was at the side of the car, not being run over by it.
Stills from the video clarify relative positions of participants at a given moment. But obviously you will want to ignore them as it shows it was plain murder of an innocent, unarmed civilian.
Yes, he was in front of the car before the shots were fired, but at the time, the car was in reverse. When he actually shot her, he was at the side of the car (including the final shot fired through the side window!)
It is mind boggling that people will attempt to justify cold-blooded murder in order to somehow "own the libs". Have a ******* word with yourself.

You state they are incompetent and yet there have been multiple instances of the exact same outcome in very similar circumstances where officers were later cleared of their actions in court.
As I have mentioned (and keep mentioning), law enforcement officers in the USA have the right to self defence using lethal force, this is fully allowed for in law.
I fear too many people are trying to examine this from a European perspective which simply does not apply in this case. In the USA, the vast majority of officers and agents carrying out federal duties will be routinely armed and have access to a lot more firepower that even dedicated firearms officers in the UK might not.
They are not 'death squads'. They are authorised and trained agents of a federal agency. They wear uniforms and carry equipment that is considered de-rigeur for their duties in America.
I get you guys hate Trump and might even hate America but take the blinkers off and examine the wider context.

I'm confused as to why you would think a "masked death squad" (which we have now established is a not unreasonable description) would necessarily have to be attempting to "round up and eliminate average citizens in the USA"?
Traditionally, such squads tend to target specific groups - in this case brown and black immigrants, and those protesting against their actions.
Masked, heavily armed gangs, using mismatched equipment, driving unmarked cars, is absolutely not "considered completely normal" in the US. I lived there for a year and never saw such a group once.
Perhaps you are watching too many movies or videos of ICE raids?

"law enforcement officers in the USA have the right to self defence using lethal force"
This has been explained to you before. That use of lethal force has to be legally justified.
An LEO can't just shoot someone and claim "self defence", regardless of circumstances.
"I get you guys might even hate America but take the blinkers off"
😂 Think you need to take your MAGA blinkers off. (I loved my year living there)
Hating a nation may be something in your tool box, but not for rational people.
What rational people are objecting to here is the unjustified and likely illegal killing* of an unarmed and innocent civilian by a member of a squad of masked, heavily armed people (#masked #death #squad).
*The current consensus amongst US law enforcement and legal experts - as opposed to your personal opinion.

Just answer the question. Are you in agreement with the idea that these officers are out there operating as masked death squads?
That isn't the remit of ICE agents as I understand it. They wear uniforms and carry equipment that is hardly unusual in the context of Federal agents in the United States.
This kind of situation has happened before in the USA. It is not an unheard of incident where officers use lethal force in response to a vehicle they perceive to be a threat. This would be unfathomable almost anywhere in Europe, but it's unfortunately a reality in the US.
If you read my prose carefully I have made no assumptions on where you are from. A Canadian would view this incident very differently to an American also.

Why should I answer the question when your polarising question? lol
"If you read my prose carefully"
Prose is a strong word for what you write.
I am well aware that this is common in the US. It also doesn't make it any more right.
It's a bit patronising to explain something to me that I'm well aware of....

Why should I answer the question when your polarising question? lol
"If you read my prose carefully"
Prose is a strong word for what you write.
I am well aware that this is common in the US. It also doesn't make it any more right.
It's a bit patronising to explain something to me that I'm well aware of....

"if you're certain their primary function is to round up and eliminate average citizens in the USA?"
😂.
Let's add "straw man" to your bucket o'fallacies.
Since Trump took office, 19 people have been shot by Border & Immigration agents, with 6 dead.
I accept that it's no school shooting, but it's still pretty bad.

Hmm, lets see...
1 - Squads (small organised groups, often military or law enforcement) of heavily armed men on the streets of US cities? CHECK
2 - Those men are masked? CHECK
3 - Those squads have shot people to death? CHECK
Crikey! Seems like my initially flippant comment is actually accurate.
Thanks for pointing this out. God bless America.

"Bad thing happens so stopping it is pointless"

"Bad thing happens so stopping it is pointless"

It is prose in my book.
If you don't want to answer, well, people can infer what they might from that.

I'm not bothering with your replies now. They are becoming farcical really.

When you have a clue about American culture and the nature and usual policies of law enforcement in that country, feel free to come back to us instead of going entirely off the fact you dislike Trump/ICE agents or whatever your personal agenda might feel is important this week.

I'm not sure how you could come to that conclusion, I don't recall anyone posting anything to that effect.
Still, easy for someone to write nonsense when it's not their life on the line daily working in law enforcement.

It is prose in my book.
If you don't want to answer, well, people can infer what they might from that.

I'm not bothering with your replies now. They are becoming farcical really.

When you have a clue about American culture and the nature and usual policies of law enforcement in that country, feel free to come back to us instead of going entirely off the fact you dislike Trump/ICE agents or whatever your personal agenda might feel is important this week.

"When you have a clue about American culture and the nature and usual policies of law enforcement in that country"
Says the person who thinks that roving federal masked death squads (confirmed definition) are "considered completely normal" in the US.
As I said, during my time living there, I never saw a single one. And I lived in Virginia, which is not some liberal leftist state. Or maybe Trump only sends his masked death squads to liberal leftist states, which is why I never saw any. Could be a kind of "black swan" scenario?
Anywho, my "personal agenda" of law enforcement officers not killing innocent, unarmed people is an ongoing one.
How about you?