So much for the 2nd amendment

Lol
I'm not bothering with your replies now. They are becoming farcical really.
If you don't want to answer, well, people can infer what they might from that.
Rude ahh
Do you work in law enforcement then?
I plan to.

Do you have experience of North American law enforcement?
A simple 'yes' or 'no' will suffice. I don't want to make this too difficult or confusing at all. I don't want to deter you from answering any more questions. You seem happy with statements though, 'masked death squads', wasn't it?
Objectivity in a would-be police officer, well, you'd think that was nearly a pre-requisite.

When you are ready to discuss this properly, let me know. Right now you're still clearly on the track of masked death squads and trying to decide which aspect of your legal training lets you calculate this to be second degree murder.
What's your thinking, the fact he moved to the front of the car was all a calculated action on his part to let him draw his weapon and use it? Or the guys ego was so bruised by the confrontation he couldn't let it go unpunished?
Get real.

Well... do you have experience of North American law enforcement?
A simple 'yes' or 'no' will suffice. I don't want to make this too difficult or confusing at all. I don't want to deter you from answering any more questions. You seem happy with statements though, 'childish', was it?
So you have no experience in law enforcement and don't plan to? So you really don't know very much about it at all?

How would you define experience?
More than you for example?
I'd be given to suggest 'yes' would be the best answer there.

Do you have legal training then?
You are so comfortable doubting people's experiences of being in the US, being familiar with law enforcement, being familiar with legal training, despite seemingly having... well, none of those experiences.

Do you have legal training?
You guys are here arguing it was obviously murder or banging on about masked death squads in the belief these guys are employed to be the Einstazgruppen or something.
You apparently don't know that the uniforms, equipment and actions shown in the video are pretty standard, rightly or wrongly. As I have tried to explain, regular police officers, let alone dedicated federal agents have access to a lot of equipment European forces would not.
Neither of you appear to know/realise/acknowledge that such officers in the USA have a complete right to self defence using lethal force as necessary. I've tried to explain that perhaps your prior understanding or experience of maybe European policing do not apply in this case.
As I have outlined, I feel you are letting your emotive personal biases drive your thinking and leading to automatic conclusions.
I have no particular dog in this hunt: it makes no odds to me whatsoever. But I do know that there are multiple instances on record of exactly this kind of incident and exactly this kind of outcome, too. Leading your political leanings to one side for the moment, in many of these prior situations, the officers are subsequently cleared.
It might also shock you learn that a lot of second amendment community are generally supportive of law enforcement or security services personnel.
Is this kind of occurrence in any way optimal? Hardly. And I would be willing to bet few Americans believe it is, but that is the nature of violence/crime in some parts of North America and it appears to mean a very different level of policing is required.
Dial back the red mist and perhaps we might have a reasonable conversation here.

Why are you assuming I'm European?

I've made no mention of anyone's nationality if you read my prose carefully. Would it matter if I was of European origin?

Why are European police the main comparison here? It's clear you're implying we're more familiar with European polices than any others.

You can choose any police force comparator you like. Makes no odds to me. People with any experience of North America would not be coming out with the kind of falsehoods I've witnessed on this thread nor the other because I shouldn't need to be explaining what any aspect of North American policing looks like to someone who has stayed or lived there for even a short space of time. Unless a participator had a pre-existing agenda, of course, which would explain all of it.

why so serious...
nah why are you SUCH an american glazer
my family comes from a way 'worse' country than america (at least so the news outlets make out, in terms of violence) and there's pretty bad terrorist groups and frequent bombings and the police are insanely heavily armed, like way moreso than in the US, and yaknow what
i feel safer there than in the US anyday. especially these days...

When you are ready to discuss this properly, let me know. Right now you're still clearly on the track of masked death squads and trying to decide which aspect of your legal training lets you calculate this to be second degree murder.
What's your thinking, the fact he moved to the front of the car was all a calculated action on his part to let him draw his weapon and use it? Or the guys ego was so bruised by the confrontation he couldn't let it go unpunished?
Get real.

I'm not sure how you could come to that conclusion, I don't recall anyone posting anything to that effect.
Still, easy for someone to write nonsense when it's not their life on the line daily working in law enforcement.

Do you have experience of North American law enforcement?
A simple 'yes' or 'no' will suffice. I don't want to make this too difficult or confusing at all. I don't want to deter you from answering any more questions. You seem happy with statements though, 'masked death squads', wasn't it?
Objectivity in a would-be police officer, well, you'd think that was nearly a pre-requisite.
Anyway, as with your oppo, come back when you're ready to discuss this objectively and maybe I can shed some light on the incident as understanding on this threads seems to have taken a pretty significant back seat with prejudice and attitude doing all the heavy lifting instead. That's not a great mix for a rather serious incident. Still, trial by social media, that's a common problem these days. No idea how one forms a reasonable jury in the light of that sort of thinking although one could be forgiven for thinking it's better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6.

Do you have legal training?
You guys are here arguing it was obviously murder or banging on about masked death squads in the belief these guys are employed to be the Einstazgruppen or something.
You apparently don't know that the uniforms, equipment and actions shown in the video are pretty standard, rightly or wrongly. As I have tried to explain, regular police officers, let alone dedicated federal agents have access to a lot of equipment European forces would not.
Neither of you appear to know/realise/acknowledge that such officers in the USA have a complete right to self defence using lethal force as necessary. I've tried to explain that perhaps your prior understanding or experience of maybe European policing do not apply in this case.
As I have outlined, I feel you are letting your emotive personal biases drive your thinking and leading to automatic conclusions.
I have no particular dog in this hunt: it makes no odds to me whatsoever. But I do know that there are multiple instances on record of exactly this kind of incident and exactly this kind of outcome, too. Leading your political leanings to one side for the moment, in many of these prior situations, the officers are subsequently cleared.
It might also shock you learn that a lot of second amendment community are generally supportive of law enforcement or security services personnel.
Is this kind of occurrence in any way optimal? Hardly. And I would be willing to bet few Americans believe it is, but that is the nature of violence/crime in some parts of North America and it appears to mean a very different level of policing is required.
Dial back the red mist and perhaps we might have a reasonable conversation here.

I've made no mention of anyone's nationality if you read my prose carefully. Would it matter if I was of European origin?

You can choose any police force comparator you like. Makes no odds to me. People with any experience of North America would not be coming out with the kind of falsehoods I've witnessed on this thread nor the other because I shouldn't need to be explaining what any aspect of North American policing looks like to someone who has stayed or lived there for even a short space of time. Unless a participator had a pre-existing agenda, of course, which would explain all of it.

I am aware there are far worse countries than America. They may even feature masked death squads or rampant hyperinflation or a regime leader who is genuinely nuts.
There are places which are far less safe than America. America has some areas where violent crime is a significant problem, but it is not the entire country or even entire states where this exists.
Why so serious? Well, you see this is quite a serious issue. A citizen has died at the hands of law enforcement agents and it is right that questions are asked about it. Unfortunately, as I have already outlined multiple times, this is not the first time this has happened in the USA nor will it be the last. Could it have been avoided? I would like to think so. Was it just plain murder? Doesn't appear to be from what I have seen/heard. I usually go with the most simplest explanation: good old Occam's razor.

"They may even feature masked death squads or a regime leader who is genuinely nuts."
We still talking about the US here?
"Doesn't appear to be from what I have seen/heard."
You seem to be claiming the killing was justified self defence, but that would require you to ignore the video evidence and the nature of the rules and protocols for such engagements, as interpreted by a consensus of US law enforcement and legal experts.
What was that you were saying about "pre-existing agenda"?
"I usually go with the most simplest explanation: good old Occam's razor."
Occam's razor is better described as the explanation that requires the fewest unsupported assumptions (otherwise "pixies" would be Occam's conclusion for many strange events), but "simplest" is simpler.
In this case, the video evidence is 100% clear. Ross fired at least 2 shots to Good's head when he was in zero danger from being hit by the vehicle. There is literally no question about that. No assumptions required.
Therefore, Occam's razor requires that we conclude murder. QED.